TEXAS SECESSION.......
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You would have to define what you mean by "struggling." Gaining our Independence? Economically?
The road to Independence would be a bumpy one for sure...........and possibly result in some violence.......but I do not see U.S. Military Personnel lining up to "shoot down" Texas Citizens. It would cause a HUGE MESS in D.C. And a Constitutional Crisis probably..........but, the "struggling" would also extend to the U.S. as well.
Now.............TO BE SURE......this is all just wishful thinking.......ok? But it has been a real point of conversation for many, many years..........
I promised someone here the "Justification" for such a move by Texas...........so, I' gonna go get that Info now and post it.
The road to Independence would be a bumpy one for sure...........and possibly result in some violence.......but I do not see U.S. Military Personnel lining up to "shoot down" Texas Citizens. It would cause a HUGE MESS in D.C. And a Constitutional Crisis probably..........but, the "struggling" would also extend to the U.S. as well.
Now.............TO BE SURE......this is all just wishful thinking.......ok? But it has been a real point of conversation for many, many years..........
I promised someone here the "Justification" for such a move by Texas...........so, I' gonna go get that Info now and post it.
JUSTIFICATION FOR TEXAS:
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
As a Native Born Texas, nor do I..........however..........History teaches us that Independence is rarely achieved without bloodshed. I'm thinking God Himself realized this.......THUS the Sacrificial Lamb!
Now, not comparing this idea of Secession to the Salvation Plan.........just saying...........
Now, not comparing this idea of Secession to the Salvation Plan.........just saying...........
U
It will never happen, the military is too strong for Texas and any secession would be seen as an act of hostility/treason and would be met with heavy handed tactics to bring Texas back to the Union....Also as a state with a good economy they wouldn't give up all the tax revenue they could get from a non bankrupt/good economic state (relative to other states that is)....
I've been thinking that Texas should secede, do a quick coup of Mexico, kick out the corrupt government, declare open season on drug cartels, and form a nation called Texico. It could be bi-lingual, and MOST of the Mexican citizens would welcome it.
I'm thinking that Arizona, Oklahoma, and New Mexico would throw in with us... possibly Louisiana and Arkansas.
I think we'd be pretty formidable, militarily and economically.
I'm thinking that Arizona, Oklahoma, and New Mexico would throw in with us... possibly Louisiana and Arkansas.
I think we'd be pretty formidable, militarily and economically.
M
*Gets railed for posting pro-anarchist, U.S.-shaming memes*
*finds out that most of the people who took offense don't want to be US citizens anyway because they think the U.S. is corrupt*
*finds out that most of the people who took offense don't want to be US citizens anyway because they think the U.S. is corrupt*
Exactly, and I completely agree...but... Instead of just recreating what screwed us the first time (a Democratic Republic), why not do things better with an Anarcho-capitalistic society? We agree on what the cancer is, but an Anarcho-capitalist society kills the cancer at it's root: Government. No silly constitution or national flag. Nobody extorting money from you to pay for programs that you don't agree with. It would be beautiful. Sure, there would be some flaws, but it would be a free society.
It will not happen in my lifetime.......but "never" is a really long time........sooooo, even you can't assure anyone of that.
As for it not happening in my lifetime, it will not be because of the reason(s) you stated.
It will not happen because of the great influx of socialist liberals who have transplanted themselves in Texas to grow wealthy off of the Economy there while spending their time criticizing how the Texas economy operates.
It will not happen because there aren't enough Native Born Texans determined enough to actually declare their Independence according to the same standards our Founding Fathers used to declare their Independence.
But, never is a really, really long time..........soooooooooooo
As for it not happening in my lifetime, it will not be because of the reason(s) you stated.
It will not happen because of the great influx of socialist liberals who have transplanted themselves in Texas to grow wealthy off of the Economy there while spending their time criticizing how the Texas economy operates.
It will not happen because there aren't enough Native Born Texans determined enough to actually declare their Independence according to the same standards our Founding Fathers used to declare their Independence.
But, never is a really, really long time..........soooooooooooo