Time to wake up Donald Trump religious freedom is dangerous !!!

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JosephsDreams

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I just watched the video. Liberal media pond scum suckers.
Of course they had to add at the very end that only one church has lost its IRS status due to this law. Naturally they forgot the mention the chilling effect it has had on free speech and the bantering of political ideas in a hundreds of thousands of church environments.
 

JesusLives

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With the division and hatred being shown in the US now between political parties I can see the end is so near and it wouldn't be a surprise to see persecution on the rise again all in the name of God....

I want to be a Christian that loves God with all my heart and my neighbor as myself....

When they cry peace and safety sudden destruction comes....
 

Dude653

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Churches don't pay taxes. If you want to enter the Political Arena Arena then pay the price of admission like everyone else
 

skipp

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This will allow religious organizations to become political lobbyists. So much for separation of church and state.
I think pastors and churches should have the freedom to say what they want when it comes to politics. It's a freedom of speech issue.

However I also think too many churches put their trust and hope in earthly politics and not in Christ. Back in the 60's the liberal mainline churches started preaching the social gospel and became completely securalized and politicized and lost all touch with the gospel. The same thing happened in black churches. Both groups became so wrapped up in promoting the democrat party that they lost all interest in promoting the gospel. Now the same thing is happening with evangelical churches and the Republican Party and they are reaping the same results. Getting secular political positions mixed up with the gospel and trying to use government to spread Christianity rather than changing people's hearts by spreading the gospel.
 
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However I also think too many churches put their trust and hope in earthly politics and not in Christ.
Bingo... Jesus said His Kingdom was not of this world and yet we have preterists and NAR claiming Christians are going to take over the world for Jesus!

Deception is as deception does...
 

abcdef

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Concerning the question: "Do you believe Catholics are Christians?".... that was a weak response.

No, catholiks do not teach being born again as laid out in God's Word AND the practice idolatry and curious arts such as contacting the dead and evil spirits.

You should go do a good long study on what the catholikcs teach and compare to God's Word.


You do know that there are many different "Catholics", right?

When you talk about the RCC, that's not necessarily all Catholics.

Eastern Orthodox and others are considered Catholic also.

Since the question did not designate a specific group or time period, I answered in a general statement.
 

abcdef

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Designed by satan to lead to a one world religion... where they'll have another jesus and a false gospel of inclusion accepting all religions as being one of many paths unto god.

Their god ain't the One that inhabits eternity Who decides who is cast in to hell and who gets to escape hell.

They have had a one world religion since invading Israel before Jesus was born.

The world, in the Bible, is the world of Israel, not the planet earth.

Caesar is their god, the one they call "holy father", is Caesar, but now he is only the image of Caesar.
 

abcdef

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Muslims and atheists are more of a threat in this day and age than Catholics are. I could care less about the Catholic Church one way or the other.
Go back through history for the last 1900 years and see what Rome has done to the people of God.

If you think that there is not much of threat to Israel and the true church at the present time,

I believe that you are underestimating the power of the Antichrist.
 

Dude653

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This basically the Vatican is about to own the White House
 

abcdef

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This basically the Vatican is about to own the White House

This is interesting.

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People forget, that when "they" say Christian nation, many people are thinking RCC nation, (the majority)

Because that is the way the people of the world think of the church.

They don't know the difference, see the difference.

Persons who are seeking God, who read and study the Bible,

Soon realize that Rome is the beast (Dan. 2 iron legs, Dan. 7 4th beast).

The "image of the beast" (Vatican, Caesar worship) has been refined and remade to look harmless, since Israel was restored to Jerusalem and the power of The Roman beast over Israel was ended (1967).

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As far as Bible prophecy is concerned, in my opinion,

He is by far the most dangerous man alive, he is the Roman Antichrist, and he been here for 2000 years.

Who will cause the genocide of Israel, by deceiving Iran to attack them.

This time line is falling into place at the present time.

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So when you say "church", the majority of people think RCC.

You were thinking........they mean Baptists?.......or Lutherans?......or Assembly of God?....NO

YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIANS !!!!!!!! YOU ARE HARLOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I don't believe that, but they do!)

When they say that they want God in government, they mean the Bishop of Rome and the Vatican.

Think of the votes, the power of the Antichrist Bishop of Rome.

And when the government, starts to give money to different "religious" organizations, millions, who will get MOST of the money? They will say, "the churches", but they are not using the same definition that you are.

The one with the most votes, or money, will get the benefits,

A pipeline of American tax money directly to the Vatican.
 

tourist

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Fort starters, Trump has not written anything into law. Executive Orders is not the same as a law. The next president is free to delete al previous orders that were signed. I listened to video, sounds good to me. The federal government should not interfere with what a church leader can say from the pulpit or be forced to provide birth control. This is not treason.
 

tourist

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Is the Vatican considered a non-profit organization?

Now, or soon, they will influence the election of their candidates by religious endorsement openly, from the Vatican.

The power of the RCC in America will continue to rise.

Remember, They don't believe anyone else is Christian except them, other churches are harlots.

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And the USA is not the beast or the 2nd beast.

Both are ROME, the Roman Empire, followed by the Vatican which is the earth beast.

Both are Caesar worship.
The Vatican is actually a country.
 

abcdef

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The Vatican is actually a country.
It became a nation again in 1929.

The Roman beast nation crawled out of the place of the dead, the abyss, to become a nation again.

The 5th trumpet.
 

vic1980

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Keep your eye on Jesus Christ the Lord

Hebrew 11:6 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

That is new Jerusalem , coming down from God out of heaven.

Pray for those that have been lead astray by satan crafty works , that they can see the truth and escaped the corruption that is in the world.

God bless
 

vic1980

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This will allow religious organizations to become political lobbyists. So much for separation of church and state.
America is not exempt .

Matthew 24
9Then they will hand you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10 At that time many will fall away and will betray and hate one another, 11and many false prophets will arise and mislead many. 12Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold. 13But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

Remind ourselves , this truth that Jesus Christ our Lord taught.

13 But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

Shalom
 

JosephsDreams

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Churches don't pay taxes. If you want to enter the Political Arena Arena then pay the price of admission like everyone else
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That argument makes no sense. So your saying that to be able to talk about politics you have to pay taxes??

Hmm, I never knew the constitution made that a condition of free speech.

So a poor person can not talk about it.
What about a 18 year old person? No good to hear from them?
 

Tommy379

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That argument makes no sense. So your saying that to be able to talk about politics you have to pay taxes??

Hmm, I never knew the constitution made that a condition of free speech.

So a poor person can not talk about it.
What about a 18 year old person? No good to hear from them?
I agree. Churches are getting screwed on this. For example, The Southern Poverty law center is a non profit tax exempt organization, that is a leftest political action group.