Trump Says "NO DEAL" over Iran Nuclear program

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Agricola

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So Trump is being condemned around the world for scrapping the deal created by Obama to allow Iran to have a Nuclar power if no weapons grade plutonium is produced.
Iran nuclear deal: Trump pulls US out in break with Europe allies - BBC News

Who was guilable enough to beleive Iran would not make weapons grade plutonium? Seems just about everyone thought they would be nice and not do this. WRONG!

Israel has recently obtained documents to show IRan is still involved in making nuclear weapons. Israel says Iran hid nuclear arms programme - BBC News

By Backing out of this agreement, Iran said they would not abide by the deal, which in turn gives green light for Israel to bomb Irans nuclear facility, something they have continued to threaten to do, but would have been condemend by the world for doing because after all, Iran is only using the plant for energy and nothing more... yes right.

Good job Mr President, everyone around the world will condem this, but its a clever move.
 

Waggles

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And thus it begins
we can now count the days down to WW3 and Armageddon

Well done Mr President and Prime Minister Netanyahu

the 9th of Av will fall on 20-21st July this year.
An ominous date for Jews suffering misfortune.
 

Desdichado

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Well, it would seem Iran had no intention to honor the agreement. No point in having a deal.
 

longtrekker

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Why make a deal with a regime whose enduring motto is 'Death to America!' and whose avowed aim is to annihilate Israel?

Hopefully Trump can get back that truck load of mula Obama shipped over as well...
 
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tanakh

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Who needs an Antichrist when we have Trump to do his Job for him
 

tanakh

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And thus it begins
we can now count the days down to WW3 and Armageddon

Well done Mr President and Prime Minister Netanyahu

the 9th of Av will fall on 20-21st July this year.
An ominous date for Jews suffering misfortune.
Just heard the news that the UK and rest of Europe intend to continue with the deal so the Armageddon Street Party I planned for the 9th of Av will be postponed until further notice. Sorry to carry such disappointing news but I am sure Trump will find another way of starting WW3 very soon.
 

trofimus

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Even during the war in Iraq, at least a part of Europe was with the USA (Spain, UK, central EU).

Now, only Israel and possibly Saudi Arabia are with the USA. On the opposite side is whole the Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, India, Russia, China.

It seems that Trump ignores all his allies and do what just Israel wants (and Israel wants to dominate the area, without any other local power like Iran).

Sanctions - the US will activate sanctions against companies working in/with Iran till 6 months from now. That means many EU companies will be kicked out of the US market and the spiral of counter actions will be set off.

The situation can be very risky.

Its never good to ignore almost all allies. Not even for the USA.
 
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Just heard the news that the UK and rest of Europe intend to continue with the deal so the Armageddon Street Party I planned for the 9th of Av will be postponed until further notice. Sorry to carry such disappointing news but I am sure Trump will find another way of starting WW3 very soon.
Yeah ... it's crazy, isn't it ? You'd think that Trump would be smart enough to continue on in the same manner as the previous administration. This way, he wouldn't have to shoulder the burden of blame. He'd win a few Democrat votes in the process too :rolleyes:
 

razor17

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Trump must not have liked what he got from the Banker.....time to call howie mandel....deal or no deal?
 

gb9

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Yeah ... it's crazy, isn't it ? You'd think that Trump would be smart enough to continue on in the same manner as the previous administration. This way, he wouldn't have to shoulder the burden of blame. He'd win a few Democrat votes in the process too :rolleyes:
does it matter that iran was openly breaking the deal? that Obama paid them $400 million cash ( taxpayer ) dollars? that iran has consistently threatened to nuke the u.s. and Israel?

look at all the facts , people.
 

trofimus

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does it matter that iran was openly breaking the deal? that Obama paid them $400 million cash ( taxpayer ) dollars? that iran has consistently threatened to nuke the u.s. and Israel?

look at all the facts , people.
Facts... do you have any proof that Iran consistently threatens to nuke the US and Israel?

It will be good if the source of such proofs will not be some mysterious secret services sources, Israel´s newspapers etc. But rather public news, UN speeches of Iranian respresentants.
 

gb9

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Facts... do you have any proof that Iran consistently threatens to nuke the US and Israel?

It will be good if the source of such proofs will not be some mysterious secret services sources, Israel´s newspapers etc. But rather public news, UN speeches of Iranian respresentants.
articles in the express u.k. and the middle east monitor in 2017 about iran's threat's . also, there is a article in the Washington times ( not post ) in 2016 about iran threat's to Israel .
 
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trofimus

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articles in the express u.k. and the middle east monitor in 2017 about iran's threat's . also, there is a article in the Washington times ( not post ) in 2016 about iran threat's to Israel .
Post the links please, so we can see them in context.

So far I see threats from Israel towards Iran on regular basis almost every month and nobody seems to care. And because Israel has nuclear weapons, I understand Iran´s desire to make it equal.
 

gb9

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Post the links please, so we can see them in context.

So far I see threats from Israel towards Iran on regular basis almost every month and nobody seems to care. And because Israel has nuclear weapons, I understand Iran´s desire to make it equal.
I am not that internet savy. just do a goggle search, they are there.

and, I agree, Israel does some shady things as well, I do not want anyone to nuke anyone. I just think that iran is a bit more extreme than Israel.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Facts... do you have any proof that Iran consistently threatens to nuke the US and Israel?

It will be good if the source of such proofs will not be some mysterious secret services sources, Israel´s newspapers etc. But rather public news, UN speeches of Iranian respresentants.
The UN? are you having a laugh? Public news? Both are utterly corrupt.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Even during the war in Iraq, at least a part of Europe was with the USA (Spain, UK, central EU).

Now, only Israel and possibly Saudi Arabia are with the USA. On the opposite side is whole the Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, India, Russia, China.

It seems that Trump ignores all his allies and do what just Israel wants (and Israel wants to dominate the area, without any other local power like Iran).

Sanctions - the US will activate sanctions against companies working in/with Iran till 6 months from now. That means many EU companies will be kicked out of the US market and the spiral of counter actions will be set off.

The situation can be very risky.

Its never good to ignore almost all allies. Not even for the USA.
What isn't good is to line up with globalist occupiers. The EU is a sinking ship. (superstate bullies!) I pray my government isn't allowed to continue with it's attempt to drag us down with it.
 

Billyd

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The only deal was between President Obama and Iran. The US Senate must ratify the deal for it to actually be binding on the US.

Pakistan and India have Nukes. What makes you think that Iran doesn't already have them? They have had the brain power, and the resources, along with the desire to build a weapon since the 1970s. I attended Grad school with an Senior Iranian Air Force Officer before the Shah was overthrown. He was extremely obnoxious, but he was as smart as any scientist and/or engineer that I have met or employed.
 

tanakh

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What isn't good is to line up with globalist occupiers. The EU is a sinking ship. (superstate bullies!) I pray my government isn't allowed to continue with it's attempt to drag us down with it.
I agree wih you in saying that the EU is a sinking Ship. I don't agree that our Government is attempting to drag us down with it. Whatever its faults the Government is the only hope that myself among the 17.5 million who voted for Brexit have to get out from it. The Lib Dems are welded to the EU and Labour cant be trusted on any subject
 

Nehemiah6

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And thus it begins
we can now count the days down to WW3 and Armageddon
That's what the fearmongers would say. But people are forgetting that Sunni Saudi Arabia supports Trump against Shia Iran in this matter, since Iran is destabilizing the Middle East. And nothing changed in Iran's hatred for America and the West since the deal was signed. When will naive Western politicians ever learn that Jihad is ongoing and they had better wake up.
 

Desdichado

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I fail to see how pulling out of the Iran Deal automatically means a war.