Vast Majority Of Americans Say Ban Russian Oil, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds

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As the world witnesses what is happening to Ukraine, Americans were asked what they would do if they were in the same position as Ukrainians are now: stay and fight or leave the country? A majority (55 percent) say they would stay and fight, while 38 percent say they would leave the country. Republicans say 68 - 25 percent and independents say 57 - 36 percent they would stay and fight, while Democrats say 52 - 40 percent they would leave the country.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3838
 

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As the world witnesses what is happening to Ukraine, Americans were asked what they would do if they were in the same position as Ukrainians are now: stay and fight or leave the country? A majority (55 percent) say they would stay and fight, while 38 percent say they would leave the country. Republicans say 68 - 25 percent and independents say 57 - 36 percent they would stay and fight, while Democrats say 52 - 40 percent they would leave the country.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3838
Democrats have been formed into socialist and communist sympathizers. The America of the last 3 centuries is not the America they want to fight for. Nationalism has been made to be wrong.
 

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Democrats have been formed into socialist and communist sympathizers. The America of the last 3 centuries is not the America they want to fight for. Nationalism has been made to be wrong.

yes, they hate america.
 

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As the world witnesses what is happening to Ukraine, Americans were asked what they would do if they were in the same position as Ukrainians are now: stay and fight or leave the country? A majority (55 percent) say they would stay and fight, while 38 percent say they would leave the country. Republicans say 68 - 25 percent and independents say 57 - 36 percent they would stay and fight, while Democrats say 52 - 40 percent they would leave the country.
This does not seem to be dealing with the issue of Russian oil. America did not need to import any oil from any country. Indeed North America could have been a net exporter. But it is the stupid Leftist policies of the Communist Democrats and their bogus "Green Agenda" that would rather burn fuel supplied by rogue states than generate enough fuel to be energy independent. This is all a part of making America a third world hellhole. Now India will import heavily discounted Russian oil, while Biden goes begging to Iran, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf States (all of which are ignoring Biden or manipulating this cognitively deficient bogus president).
 

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I want Ukraine to win. Why? Because Russia is by far the greater threat to Liberty. If Ukraine falls then it could be next a conflict with NATO starting WW3. The Ukraine civilians do not deserve this and should be allowed to leave. These are facts and on these facts alone I could care less if the Ukrainians unite over false stories. The majority of Americans do not want boots on the ground in Ukraine but we also do want Russia to move further into Europe. That is the same recipe that started WW2 as the Germans invaded one country after another.
 
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I want Ukraine to win. Why? Because Russia is by far the greater threat to Liberty. If Ukraine falls then it could be next a conflict with NATO starting WW3. The Ukraine civilians do not deserve this and should be allowed to leave. These are facts and on these facts alone I could care less if the Ukrainians unite over false stories. The majority of Americans do not want boots on the ground in Ukraine but we also do want Russia to move further into Europe. That is the same recipe that started WW2 as the Germans invaded one country after another.
Ukraine is not going to win. All the propaganda in the world won't change that.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-steve-harrigan-fox-news-upon-return-ukraine/

So that stinks for Ukraine. But it's best to leave things here, because escalating further leads us to nuclear confrontation. Putin has already said Russia cannot take on the US and NATO allies militarily so Russia would result to her nuclear arsenal in this case.

What we need is a strong leader to encourage Zalensky to accept Putin's peace terms. That gets us an end to open hostilities (though they've already died down, honestly, as Ukraine is done for. One account from Ukraine says it's pretty quiet now. We just need an official end to prevent escalation).

Then we need that leader to make it clear that a line has been drawn which Russia cannot cross without serious consequence. This gets us an end - or at least postponing - of future repeat scenarios.

The problem is, whether you realize it or not, the US is no longer a dominant superpower. We won't win if things escalate. Weak leadership. Woke and jabbed troops, and the real patriots were pushed out of the military for refusing the jab. Old, outdated equipment. No serious conflicts against a world power in ages.

All the war dogs and globalists pushing for WWIII have seriously miscalculated if they think the West is going to come out ahead here. But maybe that's the point. Maybe we're being intentionally pushed into a fight we cannot win. I talk about that in my videos a bit.
 
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But keep on pushing propaganda for Ukraine. Self admitted New World Order regime with actual Nazi troops, and now Al Qaeda fighters are coming in to fight for Ukraine too. People need to wake up.
 

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At first this was Putin's war but it is now apparent it is Putin's embarrassment of Russia....
 

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I want Ukraine to win.
The issue is not winning or losing but being left alone. While there is a lot of propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation being broadcast, the historical fact is that Ukraine was allowed to leave the Soviet Union (like many other countries) and is a sovereign state. Therefore Russia had absolutely no right to invade.
Why? Because Russia is by far the greater threat to Liberty.
This is correct. The whole history of Russia is one of (a) tyranny by its corrupt leaders, (b) expansionism in order to establish the "Russian Empire", and (c) wasting all its resources on military might while neglecting the basic needs of its people. Russia under Putin is no different than Russia under Stalin. And democracy never existed there and probably never will.
If Ukraine falls then it could be next a conflict with NATO starting WW3.
Many are already talking about WWIII, and some are really hoping for this. But NATO is as much to blame for the present war as Russia. Russia only respects one thing -- raw power. And neither NATO nor the USA have made sure that NATO has been exhibiting real military power in Europe. When Crimea was grabbed by Putin and NATO simply stood by, that was a signal to Putin -- "Go right ahead and grab the rest of Europe".
Every country to the West and North West of Russia should have already been a part of NATO, or recognized that NATO is more bark than bite, and made a separate defense pact. Instead, they sat around treating Russia as just another peaceful country. So the Russian bear decided its time to get some illegitimate honey (except it turned out that the bees will not leave the bear alone).
The Ukraine civilians do not deserve this and should be allowed to leave.[/quote]
Since 2014, Ukrainians should have recognized the Russian threat and civilians should have already left. Even recently -- for months -- there were rumblings of war, and they all should have seen the signs. Why did the people wait until now to become refugees? And now African migrant invaders are using this situation as a pretext to enter Europe!
The majority of Americans do not want boots on the ground in Ukraine but we also do want Russia to move further into Europe.
There is no need for American boots on the ground, and every time America has entered a war it has gone badly. Even WWII was actually a defeat for America since Stalin got his way and enslaved millions. But the US military under Obama and Biden has been so thoroughly corrupted and weakened that they refused to send arms and equipment to Ukraine (when asked) until it was practically too late. Since America was considered to be the leader of the free world all along, this was a slap in the face, and also unconscionable.

To add insult to injury Biden has been importing Russian oil to given Putin a huge war chest, and supporting Putin's aggression by encouraging the Nord Stream 2 pipeline while shutting down the XL pipeline in North America. The utter stupidity of the Biden administration has actually been the cause of the Ukrainian conflict. Blinken was blinkin' all along instead of acting like a genuine American official. And Obama's former WH physician has even called for Biden's resignation, but he is still there piling disaster on disaster.
 

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But keep on pushing propaganda for Ukraine. Self admitted New World Order regime with actual Nazi troops, and now Al Qaeda fighters are coming in to fight for Ukraine too. People need to wake up.
Nazi regime? Talking about propaganda. It is true there is a nazi militia group but hardly a regime.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Ukraine is not going to win. All the propaganda in the world won't change that.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-steve-harrigan-fox-news-upon-return-ukraine/

So that stinks for Ukraine. But it's best to leave things here, because escalating further leads us to nuclear confrontation. Putin has already said Russia cannot take on the US and NATO allies militarily so Russia would result to her nuclear arsenal in this case.

What we need is a strong leader to encourage Zalensky to accept Putin's peace terms. That gets us an end to open hostilities (though they've already died down, honestly, as Ukraine is done for. One account from Ukraine says it's pretty quiet now. We just need an official end to prevent escalation).

Then we need that leader to make it clear that a line has been drawn which Russia cannot cross without serious consequence. This gets us an end - or at least postponing - of future repeat scenarios.

The problem is, whether you realize it or not, the US is no longer a dominant superpower. We won't win if things escalate. Weak leadership. Woke and jabbed troops, and the real patriots were pushed out of the military for refusing the jab. Old, outdated equipment. No serious conflicts against a world power in ages.

All the war dogs and globalists pushing for WWIII have seriously miscalculated if they think the West is going to come out ahead here. But maybe that's the point. Maybe we're being intentionally pushed into a fight we cannot win. I talk about that in my videos a bit.
Actually we may very well be looking at a decade or longer conflict because even if the major cities fall, the Ukrainians are looking to revert to gorilla warfare much like the middle eastern conflicts.

I do agree we should try to de-escalate and prevent a larger war. Which seems to be the majority of opinion even in the political spectrum on both sides.

You want Ukraine to agree to Putins terms of surrender?

The problem is, whether you realize it or not, the US is no longer a dominant superpower. We won't win if things escalate. Weak leadership. Woke and jabbed troops, and the real patriots were pushed out of the military for refusing the jab. Old, outdated equipment. No serious conflicts against a world power in ages.
I claim to be a realist but I also do not claim to be a prophet. Did you know before WW2 we had a small military but spent great lengths during the war building it up through war bonds, pro American propaganda, recruiting, a draft, and an all hands in deck from the civilian population to build up the military.

Do you have a number on the amount of “real patriots” still in the military versus kicked out?

How much of our arsenal and equipment is outdated?

We do have weak leadership currently but I believe this will change soon. As power is shifted and maybe even impeachments.

All the war dogs and globalists pushing for WWIII have seriously miscalculated if they think the West is going to come out ahead here. But maybe that's the point. Maybe we're being intentionally pushed into a fight we cannot win. I talk about that in my videos a bit
I don't see the majority wanting WW3. As for calculations, we can calculate many many variables but nothing can calculate the morale and will of the people. For example, the odds that Ukraine would last this long was calculated low but the morale and willpower was unknown.

No logical thinking person or leader would want a WW3 with the possibility of nukes. That benefits no one except mutual destruction. The only question is, is Putin still a sane person in the sense to understand this.

Nuclear power talks and that builds a dominance of some type as regardless of the shape of military there is a line somewhere where if a nation is pushed into a corner, the button becomes easier to push.
 
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Putin is probably the most foresighted world leader right now. He is immensely clever. And ruthless. And no, he is not insane.

He speaks and understands at least three languages - German, English, Russian if I recall correctly - but usually just uses an interpreter. Pretty smart. He also has been taking measures for over a decade now to make the RuNet (Russian internet) completely independent from the World Wide Web. Traffic routes through government controlled infrastructure, and the whole system can be disconnected from the world internet. This was successfully tested in 2014. Not to mention Russian missile technology. The Russians have the best offensive and defensive missile systems in the world. It was a cheap way to trump American communications, air and sea power. The Russians are now mass producing these weapons.

He said some time ago that he intends to unite all Russian-speaking peoples under the flag of the Russian Federation. So going on that what he is doing isn't surprising. He picked his moment well.
 

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Putin is probably the most foresighted world leader right now. He is immensely clever. And ruthless. And no, he is not insane.

He speaks and understands at least three languages - German, English, Russian if I recall correctly - but usually just uses an interpreter. Pretty smart. He also has been taking measures for over a decade now to make the RuNet (Russian internet) completely independent from the World Wide Web. Traffic routes through government controlled infrastructure, and the whole system can be disconnected from the world internet. This was successfully tested in 2014. Not to mention Russian missile technology. The Russians have the best offensive and defensive missile systems in the world. It was a cheap way to trump American communications, air and sea power. The Russians are now mass producing these weapons.

He said some time ago that he intends to unite all Russian-speaking peoples under the flag of the Russian Federation. So going on that what he is doing isn't surprising. He picked his moment well.
I believe the American based oil companies are trying to buy up all of the foreign oil they can get their hands on and drive the price of domestic up. Afterwards we will have the monopoly and can jack the price sky high. I used to work for International Marine Mooring in New Iberia, Louisiana. We've got a massive supply of crude oil in the Gulf of Mexico.
 

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what I found interesting was how many would be willing to fight an invader in the United States. Many Democrats said they would go to another country. LOL Fools

"MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN"


"MENE, God has numbered the days of your kingdom and brought it to an end; TEKEL, you have been weighed ... and found wanting;" and "UPHARSIN", your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
 

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Putin is probably the most foresighted world leader right now. He is immensely clever. And ruthless. And no, he is not insane.

He speaks and understands at least three languages - German, English, Russian if I recall correctly - but usually just uses an interpreter. Pretty smart. He also has been taking measures for over a decade now to make the RuNet (Russian internet) completely independent from the World Wide Web. Traffic routes through government controlled infrastructure, and the whole system can be disconnected from the world internet. This was successfully tested in 2014. Not to mention Russian missile technology. The Russians have the best offensive and defensive missile systems in the world. It was a cheap way to trump American communications, air and sea power. The Russians are now mass producing these weapons.

He said some time ago that he intends to unite all Russian-speaking peoples under the flag of the Russian Federation. So going on that what he is doing isn't surprising. He picked his moment well.
He isn't the intellect of the people. He isn't operating on his own and none of this is to prove his mental state of today. He thought he picked his moment well but it is obvious he wasn't prepared for Ukrain resistance or knew how NATO would react. If you look through Russian propaganda you can see it is beginning to take a toll.
 

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Gasoline was originally chosen for automotive fuel because at the time kerosene was a very popular home fuel and Gasoline wasn't worth very much and it was one of the bi-products of making gasoline. It was considered to be a cleaning fluid. My father told me during WW2 some of the guys in his squadron used AV gas to clean their uniforms.

AV, avation gas.
 

Cabrillo

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Dad was in the 8th Air Corps near Nottingham. in 1944 & 45.
 

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Putin is probably the most foresighted world leader right now. He is immensely clever. And ruthless. And no, he is not insane.
I like how Putin was portrayed in House of Cards. Ruthless and clever for sure.
 

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Putin is probably the most foresighted world leader right now. He is immensely clever. And ruthless. And no, he is not insane.

He speaks and understands at least three languages - German, English, Russian if I recall correctly - but usually just uses an interpreter. Pretty smart. He also has been taking measures for over a decade now to make the RuNet (Russian internet) completely independent from the World Wide Web. Traffic routes through government controlled infrastructure, and the whole system can be disconnected from the world internet. This was successfully tested in 2014. Not to mention Russian missile technology. The Russians have the best offensive and defensive missile systems in the world. It was a cheap way to trump American communications, air and sea power. The Russians are now mass producing these weapons.

He said some time ago that he intends to unite all Russian-speaking peoples under the flag of the Russian Federation. So going on that what he is doing isn't surprising. He picked his moment well.
Good post/point.
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Interesting to note:
Many people in Russia miss...USSR days.
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I was in Russia..some years ago.
- Short trip.