Whether covid 19 really exists or not... there's no need for all the hysteria and lockdowns..

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JesusWhereRU

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I have listened to both sides RE whether covid really exists or not

At this time I am still somewhat uncertainwhat to believe but tend to believe no covid has been found. That's bc people with PhDs are saying it has not been purified/isolated/properly studied. One person or group (can't recall which) offered a $1 million reward for anyone who has actually taken all the scientific steps and proven the thing exists. So far, no one has collected.

But in any case, there is not and never was any excuse for these stupid lockdowns..

Everyone knows how to protect himself at this point in any case..

Why are some states (mostly lib states) still in lockdown?

I say: because they want communism... govt controlling everything. They think everydayAmericans are too stupid ... I was going to say too stupid toknow how to live.... well, that works after all...

Anyway... 97% of people survive the... whatever it is... probably just theflu..

Now I hear way fewer than that survive the "cure"... the "vaccine"

doesn't surprise me at all... can't have a vaccine for a virus that does not exist... So what is the vaccine? God in Heaven knows...
 

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Anyway... 97% of people survive the... whatever it is... probably just theflu..
99.9% of the US population survived. It is not known how many of the deaths attributed to Covid 19 were actually caused by another means leading to a misclassification. The actual survival rate was probably even higher.
 

Sudden

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I have listened to both sides RE whether covid really exists or not

At this time I am still somewhat uncertainwhat to believe but tend to believe no covid has been found. That's bc people with PhDs are saying it has not been purified/isolated/properly studied. One person or group (can't recall which) offered a $1 million reward for anyone who has actually taken all the scientific steps and proven the thing exists. So far, no one has collected.

But in any case, there is not and never was any excuse for these stupid lockdowns..

Everyone knows how to protect himself at this point in any case..

Why are some states (mostly lib states) still in lockdown?

I say: because they want communism... govt controlling everything. They think everydayAmericans are too stupid ... I was going to say too stupid toknow how to live.... well, that works after all...

Anyway... 97% of people survive the... whatever it is... probably just theflu..

Now I hear way fewer than that survive the "cure"... the "vaccine"

doesn't surprise me at all... can't have a vaccine for a virus that does not exist... So what is the vaccine? God in Heaven knows...
 

Sudden

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And which other diseases do you feel uncertain of? Which others do you find suspect? Flu i see is something you do believe exists. How about Cancer? COPD? Heart Disease? Schizophrenia? AIDS? ALS? Cholera? Athsma? Emphysema? How about pneumonia? Do you think it likely they are inventions designed to turn you into a communist?
 

Lanolin

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lockdowns I do understand why you need to do it (to contain disease, stop virus from spreading) as its quarantine but its not actually linked to hysteria
Hysteria was the old thing that people used to say happened to women because of their problems with childbirth or their womb. Obviously men dont have that problem as they dont menstruate.
 

Lanolin

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In the Bible God actually had some commandments that men had to leave women alone for 7 days while women were menstruating.
 

JesusWhereRU

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And which other diseases do you feel uncertain of? Which others do you find suspect? Flu i see is something you do believe exists. How about Cancer? COPD? Heart Disease? Schizophrenia? AIDS? ALS? Cholera? Athsma? Emphysema? How about pneumonia? Do you think it likely they are inventions designed to turn you into a communist?
i am of late focused on the disease of anti-Americanism

anti-Trumpism

TDS

the disease called liberalism...

you know... the most dangerous ones known to man
 

JesusWhereRU

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lockdowns I do understand why you need to do it (to contain disease, stop virus from spreading) as its quarantine but its not actually linked to hysteria
Hysteria was the old thing that people used to say happened to women because of their problems with childbirth or their womb. Obviously men dont have that problem as they dont menstruate.
men can be hysterical also

first thing that comes to mind is CNN anchors
 

Nehemiah6

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And which other diseases do you feel uncertain of?
Coronavirus as released from Wuhan (either deliberately or accidently, no one will ever know) was a laboratory enhanced and manipulated BIO-WEAPON, therefore people have every right to question everything about it and about how it was used against the world.

1. COVID-19 is very similar to flu, but more importantly early treatment with quinine, HCQ the HCQ combo pack (with zinc and erythromycin or azithromycin), Ivermectin, Vitamin D (or any combination of these cheap and effective remedies) was literally banned by FDA, CDC, AMA, and many public health officials. Even the Lancet got involved with anti-HCQ propaganda, then retracted that article.

2. This fact is conveniently ignored by everyone, since it makes the entire medical profession culpable for mass murders. At least 80,000 to 100,000 people died unnecessarily because of medical fraud and sabotage. But you will not hear a world about this. Now that India has reverted back to Ivermectin, their death rates have immediately dropped. So hundreds of thousands of deaths should never have occurred.

2. The CDC has admitted that only 6% of the deaths they reported as COVID deaths were directly due to the virus. The others were all due to co-morbidities. So now we should look at the correct deaths and see that all the fear-mongering, lockdowns, masking, distancing, wiping of surfaces, etc. was totally ineffective and meaningless.

3. According to Statistica, COVID deaths in the USA as of May 17 were 600,147. Assuming that they are still being over-reported (since there was no huge effort to change reporting procedures, 6% of that number is only about 36,000. Since the population of the US is about 330 million, what percentage of that population died? Only 0.01%. That is about 10 deaths/100,000 of the population.

4. Flu deaths are about 60 deaths/100,000 (according to WHO) in the America. So we would have to multiply COVID deaths 6 times to match flu death. Assuming 6% is too low, even if one said that 40% of the reported deaths were COVID deaths, that would be only 73 deaths/100,000. However, since the over-reporting factor have never been properly addressed, we can safely say that COVID deaths are no different than flu deaths. And when you factor in that about half of those deaths were in the age age range of 65-85, the whole pandemic was a scamdemic.
 

Gideon300

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I have listened to both sides RE whether covid really exists or not

At this time I am still somewhat uncertainwhat to believe but tend to believe no covid has been found. That's bc people with PhDs are saying it has not been purified/isolated/properly studied. One person or group (can't recall which) offered a $1 million reward for anyone who has actually taken all the scientific steps and proven the thing exists. So far, no one has collected.

But in any case, there is not and never was any excuse for these stupid lockdowns..

Everyone knows how to protect himself at this point in any case..

Why are some states (mostly lib states) still in lockdown?

I say: because they want communism... govt controlling everything. They think everydayAmericans are too stupid ... I was going to say too stupid toknow how to live.... well, that works after all...

Anyway... 97% of people survive the... whatever it is... probably just theflu..

Now I hear way fewer than that survive the "cure"... the "vaccine"

doesn't surprise me at all... can't have a vaccine for a virus that does not exist... So what is the vaccine? God in Heaven knows...
No? Ask the people of India how well it's working for them. Hospitals overflowing and people dying like flies. So they are only from India and they have millions to spare, so who cares? Right? My suggestion is go find a COVID positive person, get the disease and report back on how benign it is. That's if you live to tell the tale. But it's harmless, right?
 

ResidentAlien

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I had a COVID test and got the results in writing. There wasn't one mention of a COVID-19 virus. What they actually tested for was SARS and COV-2. I don't understand it all but that seemed kinda strange.
 

Sudden

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i am of late focused on the disease of anti-Americanism

anti-Trumpism

TDS

the disease called liberalism...

you know... the most dangerous ones known to man
c'mon bud....try to be serious.;
 

GaryA

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At this time I am still somewhat uncertainwhat to believe but tend to believe no covid has been found. That's bc people with PhDs are saying it has not been purified/isolated/properly studied. One person or group (can't recall which) offered a $1 million reward for anyone who has actually taken all the scientific steps and proven the thing exists. So far, no one has collected.
The fact that no one has actually proven/shown the verifiable unique existence of it is a major clue about the reality...
 

Nehemiah6

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I had a COVID test and got the results in writing. There wasn't one mention of a COVID-19 virus. What they actually tested for was SARS and COV-2. I don't understand it all but that seemed kinda strange.
The technical name of COVID-19 is SARS-Cov-2. But what you should really try to find out (if the people testing you will let the cat out of the bag) is this:

1. Was the RT-PCR test used on you? It looks for genetic material (viral RNA) from the virus, not antigens.

2. If so was the Ct (cycle threshold value) in the range of 35-40 or was it in the range of 24-27? That can make all the difference. The higher values produce false positives 99% of the time, while the lower values are more reliable.

3. Was the test followed up by a laboratory analysis? Public health authorities are declaring the existence of "cases" merely on the basis of the false positive PCR tests.
 

GaryA

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99.9% of the US population survived. It is not known how many of the deaths attributed to Covid 19 were actually caused by another means leading to a misclassification. The actual survival rate was probably even higher.
Considering the survival rate, the best thing that could have been done would have been to - protect the old and feeble as best you can - and - let [whatever] "run its course"...

(Which has been the default-normal up until now. And - only the known-sick are quarantined.)

If 99.9% of everyone are not even going to show symptoms (because their immune system simply "takes care of it"), letting it run its course would mean the greatest possible most rapid achievement of 'herd immunity'.

This should be a 'DUH' thought in everyone's mind by now.
 

GaryA

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And which other diseases do you feel uncertain of? Which others do you find suspect? Flu i see is something you do believe exists. How about Cancer? COPD? Heart Disease? Schizophrenia? AIDS? ALS? Cholera? Athsma? Emphysema? How about pneumonia? Do you think it likely they are inventions designed to turn you into a communist?
Many "diseases" are not actually a disease.

There is a whole political-legal infrastructure connected to the word 'disease' - so as to allow [more] control over the 'healthcare' of 'citizens' - so as to create a monopoly of the 'healthcare' of 'citizens'. (so more money may be made by the healthcare industry)

You might just be surprised at the real cause of some of the "diseases" that are prevalent today.

The "inventions" are found in the fact that many of these "diseases" are not properly diagnosed or treated according to - and based on - the natural immune system that God put into everyone's body; rather, a different approach is made that will never cure the ailment while making lots of money for the healthcare industry.

If you don't believe this, then do some "deep research" into the most common "disease" - "Heart Disease" (which is not even a 'disease') - to discover what it really is - what really causes it - and, why the usual method of treatment is totally ineffective.
 

GaryA

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the disease called liberalism...
This is a real 'disease' - a 'cancer' that is "eating away" at [what at least used to be] the God-fearing family-unit foundation of the U.S. population. :sick:

(and in other countries also, no-doubt)
 

GaryA

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No? Ask the people of India how well it's working for them. Hospitals overflowing and people dying like flies. So they are only from India and they have millions to spare, so who cares? Right? My suggestion is go find a COVID positive person, get the disease and report back on how benign it is. That's if you live to tell the tale. But it's harmless, right?
How do you (personally) know what is actually killing these people?

Is it really a 'disease'?

Could it just be some strain of flu?

Could it be something else altogether?

If it is not backed up with bona fide valid scientific study (real science, not the stuff they make up these days), it is nothing but propaganda.

Don't swallow the propaganda.