Who is voting for Trump again?

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GardenofWeeden

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All I know is:

1 They need to take twitter away from President Trump, although I do find it amusing the way he can make a donkey of himself.
2 like him or not, I got a tax refund this year for the first time in about 5 years (since I could claim all 3 children), so he's done something good somewhere, because nothing changed other than the final tally. Don't get me wrong, I will change my tax numbers to ensure I don't get quite so much next year (why loan the govt. more than required), but it was nice knowing what I paid was too much for once.

As for all the social issues we face today, I don't believe anyone will solve them all until Christ returns, so until then I will keep voting my conscience, and praying for whoever is elected.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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If I did the side effects woke me up to reality rather than lulled me to sleep.

Plus I like kool aide. Especially when things get heated up.

I like popsicles...especially the blue ones and the orange ones ;)
 

Absolutely

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the 'tax' in Matthew 17:24-27 was not a Roman tax. it was a temple tribute 'for sanctification' -- and Jesus didn't pay it: He taught Peter that the children of kings are exempt from taxes, and instructed Peter to go catch a fish, in which he found a coin that covered both Peter's & Christ's 'temple tax' -- 'so that they would not give offense'

if you look at the Torah where this tribute originated from, Exodus 30, it is not at all clear that this was supposed to be a recurring fee for Jews -- it was to be collected "for atonement" when a census was taken. remember David taking a census? and getting in trouble over it? think about it.

so this isn't an example of Christ paying taxes.

the other place you may be referring to, 'render to Caesar what is Caesars' -- Jesus didn't have a coin. He asked that someone show Him one.


now, am not saying He taught against paying taxes. but to say, the message of these two things is not about paying taxes and honoring governments. it is something much deeper.

besides that -- 'voting' is not a requirement of the law. so you do not break a law by not voting. which is to say -- i don't see that you have a point at all by saying this? it doesn't answer the question. Jesus did not involve Himself in worldly politics. His apostles did not either. they did not advocate nor work toward political change nor did they seek political power. Jesus shirked political power. the apostles, well they didn't really have that opportunity lol -- although one could point out, Paul was on his way to a seat in the Sanhedrin, and he gave it up to pursue evangelism.

our citizenship is not of this world.
i believe, we ought to act like it is true.
so i am not a democrat, and i am utterly disgusted by Christians thinking the Republican party is the party of Christianity.

here is my view: Trump is a vain liar. the GOP manipulates the Christian church in America to equate itself as 'their party' and Trump pandered to them in order to gain votes in the SE states. every GOP candidate since Jerry Falwell has done exactly the same thing. the group of evangelical influencers who met with Trump either lied or were deceived when they said they thought Trump was a 'baby Christian' born again but showing no fruit and having no confession of faith and openly denying repentance. they were either somehow coerced or they were convinced that 'the greater good' of having a GOP-affiliated president who would probably nominate at least one conservative-leaning supreme court justice outwieghed the evil of lying to the church / misleading the church about Trump. their influence and the corresponding influence of thousands of pastors across the Bible belt who parroted their urging that all Christians 'must vote for Trump or else our country goes to hell' had a considerable influence on the vote. i think this is despicable, and it makes me sad to see people still under this spell.

my only advice is don't lie with your vote.
your vote means this is the person you respect and wish to be your nations leader and primary representative to the rest of the world.
if you don't truly respect him, and you are only voting 'against' someone else or 'against' some other perceived ideology - not literally 'for' a candidate -- in my view you should not vote at all; you are casting a lie.
this is the same advice i have given for 30 years. it has nothing to do with party or individuals.

i do not respect Trump, though i respect the office he currently holds. i do not trust him, i am ashamed that he leads our country. i will not vote for him. i will vote for whomever i think is honest, and who puts others before themselves. if i find no such person, i will not vote.
that's just me. make up your own minds. :)

"openness"
Without trump,you have hillary.

If nothing else,help us block the devil.
 

Absolutely

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spoken by someone who does not understand how close we came to having an antiChrist type in power

Trump is not an anti Christ type.

please note I am not saying he is the moral example we should all follow either

but I don't know one single person that I would follow. including myself. thank God we have Jesus. I try to follow Him...plus He is always there for me. that's another thing most people are not good at...being there

the Constitution is only a piece of paper

it takes people to uphold it
Louisiana has a big swamp. If i decide who cleans the gators ,snakes and hogs out,should i get franklin Graham and 50 pastors or 50 cajuns with clubs,nets and rifles. (Complete with a few choice cusswords and fornicating pasts)

The rescue unit cutting us from the car are probably godless fornicating heathen.
Best to wait for the church firetruck.

Rolleyes.
Trump has a dirty nasty job.
No evangelical could have slashed those swamp snakes like trump.
At this point,God rescued america via trump
 

PennEd

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No, I'm not.

I am simply not in the 'Christians must be republicans' crowd.
So i get called whatever by those, because of the whole 'us vs them' worldly political party thing that so many are sold out to.

This all sounds great and noble. Trouble is, until Jesus comes back, we LIVE HERE NOW! So Jesus IS on the ballot in the sense that we should examine THE PLATFORMS of each party.

NEITHER will line up perfectly with Christianity, but if you can't see that one is directly ANTI-Christian, and even ANTI-Christ, and the other at least has SOME redeemable qualities, I'd question your mental aptitude.

And I consider you a pretty brilliant guy. Sometimes though, brilliant guys out think themselves. I'd urge you to seriously look at each party's platform. Where they stand on specific issues, and vote accordingly.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Louisiana has a big swamp. If i decide who cleans the gators ,snakes and hogs out,should i get franklin Graham and 50 pastors or 50 cajuns with clubs,nets and rifles. (Complete with a few choice cusswords and fornicating pasts)

The rescue unit cutting us from the car are probably godless fornicating heathen.
Best to wait for the church firetruck.

Rolleyes.
Trump has a dirty nasty job.
No evangelical could have slashed those swamp snakes like trump.
At this point,God rescued america via trump

oh I like this ^^^^^^^

I seen dem Cajons on dah tv box. dere are some pastors dey could takes out too

now I'm wondering what my dentist does when I'm not sitting in that chair :unsure: :LOL:

what if your church doesn't have a firetruck? :eek:

it wasn't on this forum, but some years back on another...most ridiculous thing...people were saying they were going to put 'Jesus' with a box and check that in

right at this point I could write a whooooole bunch of stuff most people would not read anyway, but suffice it to say I agree with you
 
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Susanna

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Louisiana has a big swamp. If i decide who cleans the gators ,snakes and hogs out,should i get franklin Graham and 50 pastors or 50 cajuns with clubs,nets and rifles. (Complete with a few choice cusswords and fornicating pasts)

The rescue unit cutting us from the car are probably godless fornicating heathen.
Best to wait for the church firetruck.

Rolleyes.
Trump has a dirty nasty job.
No evangelical could have slashed those swamp snakes like trump.
At this point,God rescued america via trump
You saying us Cajuns are fornicators?

I think you need some serious learnin’ from the Rougarou.

😁
 

Dude653

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Imagine the disciples talking to a republican Jesus
Republican Jesus, we have this horde of hungry people, what are we going to do?
Well I could take this kids lunch and miraculously feed everyone but oh well that's their problem. Darn Moochers
 

Absolutely

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You saying us Cajuns are fornicators?

I think you need some serious learnin’ from the Rougarou.

😁
I love listening to the older cajun men tell stories.
I got 2 cajun jokes that are hilarious.
 

Absolutely

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Imagine the disciples talking to a republican Jesus
Republican Jesus, we have this horde of hungry people, what are we going to do?
Well I could take this kids lunch and miraculously feed everyone but oh well that's their problem. Darn Moochers
A 12 yr old daughter gets mad at her dad for not giving the homeless man at the stop sign any money. Dad tells her why dont you give him some.
She says "ok i will mow yards and babysit to earn money to give him."
She slumps down in the back seat pouting away.
Then she blurts out " hey ,wait a minute,Why cant he mow yards himself"

Liberalism is insanity.
 

stonesoffire

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I like popsicles...especially the blue ones and the orange ones ;)
Yum! Chocolate popsicles are great too.

Hey! Post Master!

Another round of kool aide plus the popsicles too this time! Dudes buying!

Heheheheh...😇. ⚔️. 🔥
 

Dude653

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A 12 yr old daughter gets mad at her dad for not giving the homeless man at the stop sign any money. Dad tells her why dont you give him some.
She says "ok i will mow yards and babysit to earn money to give him."
She slumps down in the back seat pouting away.
Then she blurts out " hey ,wait a minute,Why cant he mow yards himself"

Liberalism is insanity.
There are people who work 40 hours a week but still have trouble putting food on the table.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Imagine the disciples talking to a republican Jesus
Republican Jesus, we have this horde of hungry people, what are we going to do?
Well I could take this kids lunch and miraculously feed everyone but oh well that's their problem. Darn Moochers
so then it is really all about politics then

huh

go search the roots of the dems...they invented the KKK

they also OPPOSED the abolition of slavery

not taught that in school though


Founded in 1865, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for blacks. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s. After a period of decline, white Protestant nativist groups revived the Klan in the early 20th century, burning crosses and staging rallies, parades and marches denouncing immigrants, Catholics, Jews, blacks and organized labor. The civil rights movement of the 1960s also saw a surge of Ku Klux Klan activity, including bombings of black schools and churches and violence against black and white activists in the South.
Founding of the Ku Klux Klan
A group including many former Confederate veterans founded the first branch of the Ku Klux Klan as a social club in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. The first two words of the organization’s name supposedly derived from the Greek word “kyklos,” meaning circle. In the summer of 1867, local branches of the Klan met in a general organizing convention and established what they called an “Invisible Empire of the South.” Leading Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest was chosen as the first leader, or “grand wizard,” of the Klan; he presided over a hierarchy of grand dragons, grand titans and grand cyclopses.




Did you know? At its peak in the 1920s, Klan membership exceeded 4 million people nationwide.
The organization of the Ku Klux Klan coincided with the beginning of the second phase of post-Civil WarReconstruction, put into place by the more radical members of the Republican Party in Congress. After rejecting President Andrew Johnson’s relatively lenient Reconstruction policies, in place from 1865 to 1866, Congress passed the Reconstruction Act over the presidential veto. Under its provisions, the South was divided into five military districts, and each state was required to approve the 14th Amendment, which granted “equal protection” of the Constitution to former slaves and enacted universal male suffrage.
Ku Klux Klan Violence in the South
From 1867 onward, African-American participation in public life in the South became one of the most radical aspects of Reconstruction, as blacks won election to southern state governments and even to the U.S. Congress. For its part, the Ku Klux Klan dedicated itself to an underground campaign of violence against Republican leaders and voters (both black and white) in an effort to reverse the policies of Radical Reconstruction and restore white supremacy in the South. They were joined in this struggle by similar organizations such as the Knights of the White Camelia (launched in Louisiana in 1867) and the White Brotherhood. At least 10 percent of the black legislators elected during the 1867-1868 constitutional conventions became victims of violence during Reconstruction, including seven who were killed. White Republicans (derided as “carpetbaggers” and “scalawags”) and black institutions such as schools and churches—symbols of black autonomy—were also targets for Klan attacks.

By 1870, the Ku Klux Klan had branches in nearly every southern state. Even at its height, the Klan did not boast a well-organized structure or clear leadership. Local Klan members–often wearing masks and dressed in the organization’s signature long white robes and hoods–usually carried out their attacks at night, acting on their own but in support of the common goals of defeating Radical Reconstruction and restoring white supremacy in the South. Klan activity flourished particularly in the regions of the South where blacks were a minority or a small majority of the population, and was relatively limited in others. Among the most notorious zones of Klan activity was South Carolina, where in January 1871 500 masked men attacked the Union county jail and lynched eight black prisoners.
The Ku Klux Klan and the End of Reconstruction
Though Democratic leaders would later attribute Ku Klux Klan violence to poorer southern whites, the organization’s membership crossed class lines, from small farmers and laborers to planters, lawyers, merchants, physicians and ministers. In the regions where most Klan activity took place, local law enforcement officials either belonged to the Klan or declined to take action against it, and even those who arrested accused Klansmen found it difficult to find witnesses willing to testify against them. Other leading white citizens in the South declined to speak out against the group’s actions, giving them tacit approval. After 1870, Republican state governments in the South turned to Congress for help, resulting in the passage of three Enforcement Acts, the strongest of which was the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871.

For the first time, the Ku Klux Klan Act designated certain crimes committed by individuals as federal offenses, including conspiracies to deprive citizens of the right to hold office, serve on juries and enjoy the equal protection of the law. The act authorized the president to suspend the writ of habeas corpus and arrest accused individuals without charge, and to send federal forces to suppress Klan violence. This expansion of federal authority–which Ulysses S. Grant promptly used in 1871 to crush Klan activity in South Carolina and other areas of the South–outraged Democrats and even alarmed many Republicans. From the early 1870s onward, white supremacy gradually reasserted its hold on the South as support for Reconstruction waned; by the end of 1876, the entire South was under Democratic control once again. SOURCE

oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. Walter Scott
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I mean seriously, take some time to read the above...speaking to dems and liberals here...no wonder the democrats want to abolish all historic statues etc pertaining to the civil war and teach revisionist history creating lies and deception because THEY are the actual catalyst for the way blacks were treated after the Civil War

constantly pointing fingers at the GOP and saying Trump is a racist and blah blah blah

communism...never mind socialism...lie lie lie....yell and scream...cry false tears...moan and groan...and deceive deceive deceive until you have half the country thinking it's the other side that actually did what you are guilty of

never mind the Kavanaugh hearing and how all the lying women have disappeared. caught in lies even while they were testifying

wake the hee hah up!

unreal smh
 
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Susanna

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I think Trump has done well after the terrible mass shootings. He has acted in a presidential way.