Life on other planets

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With the universe literally having billions upon bullions of galaxies which in turns have billions of stars, you could argue that statistically life might also be on other planets and in different forms. If you think that this is possible, or even likely, how does Christian doctrine apply there.
 
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Good question. :)

On the one side of it we know that God created the heavens (the universe) and then the Earth and all the animals and herbs (nature) etc and then mankind on the 6th day.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image,


And we know that God only has one Son and He is Jesus who was predestined to die for our sins way before God even created the universe, earth and man.

John 1:2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me;

So before we even think or wonder if God has created life elsewhere, we know that we are the only species of our kind that God has created, we know that we were made in His image, we are His masterpiece. We are part of what caused Lucifer to fall from heaven like lightening because he didn't like that God had given us more regard than the angels.

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

That's Jesus saying how He saw Satan fall from heaven like lightening.

So we here on Earth are the first human beings that God created. God created the Earth for us. And Jesus came to live and die here for our sins, so that we may live. There is a message in that that we don't yet ultimately understand in full, be we who believe, believe that one day, everything will become known to us, even as we are now known.

So we know that God has only created the angels, humans and animals, from dinosaurs to bacteria! All of them here because God in His infinite wisdom put them here for our own benefit. But the bible simply makes no mention about God creating life anywhere else or in any shape or form.

That said, we know that God is the ultimate creator. How many stars are there in each galaxy? Billions upon billions. How many galaxies are there in just 1 quadrant of the night sky? Billions upon billions. They are innumerable. They are more than all the grains of sand on all the shores in the world. For an eternity God has been creating them all, and all of them have names too. And they were all made for us to discover, populate and enjoy.

During the tribulation, some will be wiped out, but God will create a new Heaven and a new Earth. And Earth will always be the most beautiful of all planets, it will always be the most endeared, the most blessed, for it is the birthplace of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! It is where God first created mankind. And it shall be restored and we shall once again walk within the garden of Eden where the lion lays down with the lamb and are led by a child.

That's my take anyway! :)

God bless!
 
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It's irrelevant. Whether we are the only one or one of billions it changes nothing in the bible. Do i believe, if they exist, we will see them while still alive on earth? Nope. But it changes nothing if they exist.
 
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It's irrelevant. Whether we are the only one or one of billions it changes nothing in the bible. Do i believe, if they exist, we will see them while still alive on earth? Nope. But it changes nothing if they exist.
Hmmm seems a bit mean ugly. Is it about whether its relevant or not? OP asked a question which is one that everyone asks at one point or another or ponders in a moment of a daydream about whether God has created life elsewhere other planets somewhere in the infinite universe. And asked us to give them enlightenment on that from a biblical point of view which I tried to do. Would love for other people to chime in I know there's some people who can give a much better answer than I.

Although I can soft of see where you're coming from, of course it changes things if we know that there is life elsewhere. Because if we know there isn't (which we can be sure of because of what it tells us in the bible) then it means, we really are the center of the universe as far as we are concerned and that is particularly significant.

Yes you are probably right, we probably wont find out in our lifetime, but you don't know the future anymore than me and what God has instore for us to see.

As said, we are His masterpiece! We are the most intelligent of all of His creations, along with free will that's what makes us so unique and special and blessed.

We are at the center of the universe as far as we're concerned. But I kinda like the fact that we simply don't know and the whole mystery of it all. It makes you think if God intended that so we WOULD ask questions and ponder.

God bless.

Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the heart of man; so that no one can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
 
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Life. Yes Such as plants, maybe animals, water...etc.

Life such as Humans or beings with souls, nah, the bible would have mentioned it. Jesus would have mentioned it. Even if there is, we will never get there to find out.
 
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I believe life exists throughout the Universe, and Jesus Christ is Lord of all.
 
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It's irrelevant. Whether we are the only one or one of billions it changes nothing in the bible. Do i believe, if they exist, we will see them while still alive on earth? Nope. But it changes nothing if they exist.
It isn't irrelevant to me. There are unanswered issues, if intelligent life exists in millions of places across the universe. The bible is written for us on earth. If we accept that life elsewhere is probable or possible then did jesus appear in multiple places. Your obviously not interested in the concept ugly so i wonder why you bothered to reply. But i found the whole line of thinking really interesting which is why I posted.
 
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It's irrelevant. Whether we are the only one or one of billions it changes nothing in the bible. Do i believe, if they exist, we will see them while still alive on earth? Nope. But it changes nothing if they exist.
To the OP, I'm pretty much with Ugly on this one. Being a writer and a fan of fantasy, these are things I really like to think about though. Do I believe life exists somewhere else out there? I think it's very likely. How does the Christian doctrine apply? If God exists, God exists, life on other planets won't take Him down from His throne because they were likely created by Him. If it was necessary for us to know of them though, we would know about them. But I find the speculation more exciting than the actual knowledge
 
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Life. Yes Such as plants, maybe animals, water...etc.

Life such as Humans or beings with souls, nah, the bible would have mentioned it. Jesus would have mentioned it. Even if there is, we will never get there to find out.
Why would the bible have mentioned it. Those who wrote it never knew what a telescope was, they thought the sun rotated around the earth, and thought the earth was flat. The intent of the bible is to provide spiritual guidance, not advice on astronomy.
 
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It isn't irrelevant to me. There are unanswered issues, if intelligent life exists in millions of places across the universe. The bible is written for us on earth. If we accept that life elsewhere is probable or possible then did jesus appear in multiple places. Your obviously not interested in the concept ugly so i wonder why you bothered to reply. But i found the whole line of thinking really interesting which is why I posted.
I don't know if the "multiple savior" idea would apply, though I had a bible teacher use this as a defense for there not being other life. If the bible was written for us on earth wouldn't it be possible that other life followed their own doctrine? And even if the story is different, since it's still God wouldn't it still follow the same ethics of love and service to others?
 
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I don't know if the "multiple savior" idea would apply, though I had a bible teacher use this as a defense for there not being other life. If the bible was written for us on earth wouldn't it be possible that other life followed their own doctrine? And even if the story is different, since it's still God wouldn't it still follow the same ethics of love and service to others?
Yea fair point
 
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It isn't irrelevant to me. There are unanswered issues, if intelligent life exists in millions of places across the universe. The bible is written for us on earth. If we accept that life elsewhere is probable or possible then did jesus appear in multiple places. Your obviously not interested in the concept ugly so i wonder why you bothered to reply. But i found the whole line of thinking really interesting which is why I posted.
I was interested in it enough to have given it thought some time ago, to have an answer to provide to begin with.
Your response was rather rude and presumptuous, much like your thoughts on the question at hand.
If life exists on other planets who's to say they are sinful as we are? Who's to say they would need a savior? Or a bible? If there is no sin, in this concept, then perhaps God speaks to them as He did Adam and Eve.
Does Jesus having appeared to life on other planets, or not having appeared, change your life or walk in any fashion at all? Is God not still God, regardless of the things He does outside your realm of knowledge?
You are assuming if life exists elsewhere then they are required to be like us, and that's a faulty logic. God is infinite in his power and imagination, way beyond what we could begin to fathom, and as a result His ideas on how to interact with a creation of His could be equally as varied. While, as Zman said, God would hold to the same basic teachings, other races may have quite different approaches to spirituality, communication, day to day life, etc... rather than just be other versions of humanity.

And it still is irrelevant because it has no affect on your salvation, your relationship with God and it changes nothing here on earth. You are full of assumptions and likely dismissive of me because i believe you were the one speaking rudely and i called you out on it.
I've had other thoughts on the subject, but considering i woke up only a few minutes ago i'm not quite with it yet, but even having just woke up i think it's clear this is a subject i have put more thought into than you are quick to assume i have. So do you still want to aim your unfounded accusations at me about my lack of interest, despite having clearly given this way more thought than you have?
 
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In this vast universe, this crazy picture of emptiness, a vastness beyond imagining, so hostile outside our 4 miles of atmosphere no life can exist, anywhere that we know of, yet our world, our garden of eden, life is everywhere.

The argument appears to be simple. In God, in creation there is life, in communion with the Life giver, in the universe outside his life giving bubble there is beauty but only death. The more I see it, the more it just echoes where your heart is there is knowledge. The atheist scientist wants to look out there and see a random chain of events that brings about life, and when time and again the message is, no it does not, they invent more and more ideas to support their ideas, because they hate the idea of a creator so deeply, they would rather die than give in. God in his wisdom provided a plausible alternative, so you could choose it, and stay sensible, because there needs to be a divide based on love and loyalty, not vested interest. If God was obvious, how many would buy into Him because there is no other choice. If you work in a company you know how many suck up to the boss though they hate him. Do you think the Father does not understand this.

So life out there? Not a chance.

Do you think 500,000 DNA base pairs which are needed for basic life to start could appear out of thin air, without a creative act, even if you had infinite time, and at most you have only 14 billion years?

Do you understand why SETI failed? Either life is everywhere and we would have heared of it, or we are alone and there would be silence. We are alone, because there has only been silence.

Now if you can show me another reason or sensible argument or evidence of life anywhere outside earth I will listen, but to date this is all I see.
 
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I was interested in it enough to have given it thought some time ago, to have an answer to provide to begin with.
Your response was rather rude and presumptuous, much like your thoughts on the question at hand.
If life exists on other planets who's to say they are sinful as we are? Who's to say they would need a savior? Or a bible? If there is no sin, in this concept, then perhaps God speaks to them as He did Adam and Eve.
Does Jesus having appeared to life on other planets, or not having appeared, change your life or walk in any fashion at all? Is God not still God, regardless of the things He does outside your realm of knowledge?
You are assuming if life exists elsewhere then they are required to be like us, and that's a faulty logic. God is infinite in his power and imagination, way beyond what we could begin to fathom, and as a result His ideas on how to interact with a creation of His could be equally as varied. While, as Zman said, God would hold to the same basic teachings, other races may have quite different approaches to spirituality, communication, day to day life, etc... rather than just be other versions of humanity.

And it still is irrelevant because it has no affect on your salvation, your relationship with God and it changes nothing here on earth. You are full of assumptions and likely dismissive of me because i believe you were the one speaking rudely and i called you out on it.
I've had other thoughts on the subject, but considering i woke up only a few minutes ago i'm not quite with it yet, but even having just woke up i think it's clear this is a subject i have put more thought into than you are quick to assume i have. So do you still want to aim your unfounded accusations at me about my lack of interest, despite having clearly given this way more thought than you have?
Are you always thus angry?
 
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In this vast universe, this crazy picture of emptiness, a vastness beyond imagining, so hostile outside our 4 miles of atmosphere no life can exist, anywhere that we know of, yet our world, our garden of eden, life is everywhere.

The argument appears to be simple. In God, in creation there is life, in communion with the Life giver, in the universe outside his life giving bubble there is beauty but only death. The more I see it, the more it just echoes where your heart is there is knowledge. The atheist scientist wants to look out there and see a random chain of events that brings about life, and when time and again the message is, no it does not, they invent more and more ideas to support their ideas, because they hate the idea of a creator so deeply, they would rather die than give in. God in his wisdom provided a plausible alternative, so you could choose it, and stay sensible, because there needs to be a divide based on love and loyalty, not vested interest. If God was obvious, how many would buy into Him because there is no other choice. If you work in a company you know how many suck up to the boss though they hate him. Do you think the Father does not understand this.

So life out there? Not a chance.

Do you think 500,000 DNA base pairs which are needed for basic life to start could appear out of thin air, without a creative act, even if you had infinite time, and at most you have only 14 billion years?

Do you understand why SETI failed? Either life is everywhere and we would have heared of it, or we are alone and there would be silence. We are alone, because there has only been silence.

Now if you can show me another reason or sensible argument or evidence of life anywhere outside earth I will listen, but to date this is all I see.
You might be right. But we have only just begun looking. Im keeping an open mind on this
 

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lol. That isn't true actually...because if the Bible is God-breathed then it would have mentioned it just like the prophets mentioned Jesus without any clue to who he was or even modern prophecies foretelling things that they had no clue about. God would have mentioned it. It would have been mentioned. Jesus would have mentioned it.

Other worldly beings meant that we would be called to witness to them but it doesn't mention any other worldly beings...the Bible isn't just for spiritual guidance BTW.


Tl;DR - God is the one who wrote through the authors...he would have mentioned it.


If you don't believe that God wrote the bible through these authors then you'll probably won't trust anything when it comes to God or the Bible, and you are going to have a bad time.
 
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lol. That isn't true actually...because if the Bible is God-breathed then it would have mentioned it just like the prophets mentioned Jesus without any clue to who he was or even modern prophecies foretelling things that they had no clue about. God would have mentioned it. It would have been mentioned. Jesus would have mentioned it.

Other worldly beings meant that we would be called to witness to them but it doesn't mention any other worldly beings...the Bible isn't just for spiritual guidance BTW.


Tl;DR - God is the one who wrote through the authors...he would have mentioned it.


If you don't believe that God wrote the bible through these authors then you'll probably won't trust anything when it comes to God or the Bible, and you are going to have a bad time.
Im not sure i can accept the arguement that if its not mentioned in the bible then its not true or cant exist. Travelling to the moon, mobile phones and punk rock aren't mentioned but they exist. Im not trying to be disrespectful, im trying to illustrate a point
 
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Why would the bible have mentioned it. Those who wrote it never knew what a telescope was, they thought the sun rotated around the earth, and thought the earth was flat. The intent of the bible is to provide spiritual guidance, not advice on astronomy.
Where in the Bible does anyone talk about the earth being flat? And the Bible is not written down from the author's own knowledge, but the author wrote it down with Divine inspiration. So if your right about the Bible telling us about the earth being flat, then Divine inspiration would be wrong isn't it? So can you show me the verse?
 
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lol. That isn't true actually...because if the Bible is God-breathed then it would have mentioned it just like the prophets mentioned Jesus without any clue to who he was or even modern prophecies foretelling things that they had no clue about. God would have mentioned it. It would have been mentioned. Jesus would have mentioned it.

Other worldly beings meant that we would be called to witness to them but it doesn't mention any other worldly beings...the Bible isn't just for spiritual guidance BTW.


Tl;DR - God is the one who wrote through the authors...he would have mentioned it.


If you don't believe that God wrote the bible through these authors then you'll probably won't trust anything when it comes to God or the Bible, and you are going to have a bad time.
I don't understand why God has to mention in the Bible about other beings in the universe.
 
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Where in the Bible does anyone talk about the earth being flat? And the Bible is not written down from the author's own knowledge, but the author wrote it down with Divine inspiration. So if your right about the Bible telling us about the earth being flat, then Divine inspiration would be wrong isn't it? So can you show me the verse?
I never said the bible said the earth was flat (or spherical for that matter). I said the people of that time thought the earth was flat.