Can we please stop belittling Atheists?

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Witness45

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I keep hearing so many people making demeaning statements about atheists on here, most of the time just downright mockingly making fun of them. I understand how foolish they are, and that their beliefs are entirely irrational. It's okay to point that out and lovingly explain why. But to post mocking posters that promote Christian arrogance as well as a means to point and laugh at them, is undeniably wrong. They aren't a comedy, they're a tragedy. It would be expected to see you treat them as such...
 

jsr1221

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We were all like athiests at one point. To poke fun at them is essentially hypocritical.
 

blue_ladybug

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We are all given free will to believe what we wish to believe. Atheists have a reason for what they do or dont believe in. Who are any of us to judge them for not believing in God or in heaven or hell? Let the first one without sin cast the first stone at an atheist. Or anyone in general, for that matter. Just because an atheist does not believe what a christian, or catholic, or whatever religion, believes, does'nt mean they are any more or less important than us. I agree with jrs1221--to criticize and mock athiests is hypocritical and shows our fruits.
 
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grace02

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I totally agree, we are to be Christ-like in our behaviours. Christ never condemned sinners but rather shared to gospel lovingly with them. Our lives are probably the only Bible an atheist will ever read if all he sees is hatred we've succeeded in sending a soul to hell rather than helping him to Christ. May God help us.
 

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2 Timothy 4:2 ESV


Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.

Proverbs 27:5 ESV


Better is open rebuke than hidden love.


James 5:20 ESV


Let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
 

djness

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I keep hearing so many people making demeaning statements about atheists on here, most of the time just downright mockingly making fun of them. I understand how foolish they are, and that their beliefs are entirely irrational. It's okay to point that out and lovingly explain why. But to post mocking posters that promote Christian arrogance as well as a means to point and laugh at them, is undeniably wrong. They aren't a comedy, they're a tragedy. It would be expected to see you treat them as such...
This is just a back handed statement. I cannot tell if you are for or against. Are you one of those people who went told to apologize say ''I'm sorry you are terrible, there I apologized.''? You think you are being loving but you are just perpetuating the problem you claim to want to squelch.

I understand how foolish they are, and that their beliefs are entirely irrational. It's okay to point that out and lovingly explain why.....They aren't a comedy, they're a tragedy. It would be expected to see you treat them as such...
It's pretty much this
 

jsr1221

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I totally agree, we are to be Christ-like in our behaviours. Christ never condemned sinners but rather shared to gospel lovingly with them. Our lives are probably the only Bible an atheist will ever read if all he sees is hatred we've succeeded in sending a soul to hell rather than helping him to Christ. May God help us.
I had a roommate who was athiest. He felt the Bible was "just a book with a bunch of words." His belief was you put anything in print and make it as truth. If we as Christians could actually lovingly live as Christ commends us to through God's word, maybe athiests and the rest of the world would be more willingly to let us reach out to them.
 
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Witness45

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This is just a back handed statement. I cannot tell if you are for or against. Are you one of those people who went told to apologize say ''I'm sorry you are terrible, there I apologized.''? You think you are being loving but you are just perpetuating the problem you claim to want to squelch.

It's pretty much this
Go through my previous posts on my profile (or read all of my posts if so inclined) and you'll know that's not why I posted this. I was never asked to apologize for anything because I never posted anything demeaning like this, but this isn't about me.

It is true that atheism is foolishness and irrational. That's just stating fact. It's foolish to give a child a fully loaded pistol and go tell them to play, and I take that just as seriously as I do atheism. Because both of them are very serious situations. It's just as foolish and irrational to be an atheist as it is to give a child a hand gun, and I treat both as a serious tragedy. Neither are meant to be made fun of, but it is precisely the seriousness of it that causes me to mention it in such strong language.

I don't make fun of it, and don't expect anyone to in any way. That's why I posted this thread in the first place.

Peace, and God Bless...
 

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Naw, Let's Have a Go at It

Rom. 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is revealed a righteousness of God from faith unto faith: as it is written, But the righteous shall live by faith.


Rom. 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder the truth in unrighteousness; 19 because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse: 21 because that,

knowing God, they glorified him not as God,


neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.


Rom. 1:24
Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves: 25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom. 1:26
For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.


Rom. 1:28
And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful:

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who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practise such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practise them.



Rom. 2:1
Wherefore thou art without excuse, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest dost practise the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against them that practise such things. 3 And reckonest thou this, O man, who judgest them that practise such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5 but after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up for thyself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 who will render to every man according to his works: 7 to them that by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, eternal life: 8 but unto them that are factious, and obey not the truth, but obey unrighteousness, shall be wrath and indignation, 9 tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that worketh evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Greek; 10 but glory and honor and peace to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek: 11 for there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without the law: and as many as have sinned under the law shall be judged by the law; 13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: 14 (for when Gentiles that have not the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are the law unto themselves; 15 in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness therewith, and their thoughts one with another accusing or else excusing them); 16 in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men, according to my gospel, by Jesus Christ. . . .




Rom. 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we before laid to the charge both of Jews and Greeks, that they are all under sin;
10 as it is written,
There is none righteous, no, not one;
11 There is none that understandeth,
There is none that seeketh after God;
12 They have all turned aside, they are together become unprofitable;
There is none that doeth good, no, not so much as one:
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre;
With their tongues they have used deceit:
The poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways;
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.


Rom. 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it speaketh to them that are under the law; that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may be brought under the judgment of God: 20 because by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified in his sight; for through the law cometh the knowledge of sin.


Rom. 3:21
But now apart from the law a righteousness of God hath been manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe; for there is no distinction; 23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;
 
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FireHeart

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I have heard it said that an athiest is about the worst thing a person can be. i highly disagree, my reason? christians. i know many athiests some are are not friendly but many are wonderful ppl Yet even though we Christians are to be love i am horrified at how many are so cruel to nonbelievers i mean downright aweful. Many Christians have the nerve to think they are better than non believers they make fun of them they condemn them and they call themselves christians. this a majority of believers at least 70% Im sorry but if that is how they think they are not christians and the god they serve isnt mine. we are the reason there are so many athiests and you get mad at me if you want but if this is you then you are not saved and you clearly dont know God.
 

jsr1221

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I have heard it said that an athiest is about the worst thing a person can be. i highly disagree, my reason? christians. i know many athiests some are are not friendly but many are wonderful ppl Yet even though we Christians are to be love i am horrified at how many are so cruel to nonbelievers i mean downright aweful. Many Christians have the nerve to think they are better than non believers they make fun of them they condemn them and they call themselves christians. this a majority of believers at least 70% Im sorry but if that is how they think they are not christians and the god they serve isnt mine. we are the reason there are so many athiests and you get mad at me if you want but if this is you then you are not saved and you clearly dont know God.
In my experience I have found more athiests to be friendly than Christians. In my deepest times of need my athiest friend has been there for me. My Christian friends at school? Can't say the say same. I completely agree with Firehart. Even Christians turn against one another if we aren't bib study students/scholars. Or we go to different churches and disagree over the most pitiful and pathetic, small things. There's a reason why the rest of the world hates us. It's time we look in the mirror.
 
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I keep hearing so many people making demeaning statements about atheists on here, most of the time just downright mockingly making fun of them. I understand how foolish they are, and that their beliefs are entirely irrational. It's okay to point that out and lovingly explain why. But to post mocking posters that promote Christian arrogance as well as a means to point and laugh at them, is undeniably wrong. They aren't a comedy, they're a tragedy. It would be expected to see you treat them as such...
Certainly can, but a lot won't.
 

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I understand where you guys are coming from but I think a lot of negative comments about atheists happens because of trollish atheists, or that try to exibit superiority in a direct or discreet way. But there are believers that are the same way. It's a double egded sword. One side feels hurt so they lash out, it's a very difficult cycle to stop.

2 Corinthians 6:14

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
 
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panda

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Guys I think we need to be loving to Athiests but i think djness also brought forth a good point. If we want to be loving to athiests we need to be mindful of how we present ourselves to them and the words we use. Remember to put ourselves in their shoes and I think things will be a lot more respectful. God created these people too and I don't think he would be too impressed with us being rude or insensitive to his masterpieces.
 
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panda

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I understand where you guys are coming from but I think a lot of negative comments about atheists happens because of trollish atheists, or that try to exibit superiority in a direct or discreet way. But there are believers that are the same way. It's a double egded sword. One side feels hurt so they lash out, it's a very difficult cycle to stop.

2 Corinthians 6:14

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
We need to look past it and love them anyways. If we don't associate with athiests then why did Jesus come here? Certainly not for the saved and perfect people (which is none of us btw). That verse in second corinthains is talking about being set apart and holy for God by not participating in ungodly ways and continuing in sin. Don't be like them and dont let it be seen that you are like them doing the same as every other unbeliever. The church of corinth was trying to lay down laws for the people of corinth who were coming to the faith and still acting as the rest of the corinthians acted and it was a very wicked place at the time. If you keep reading you will see the Lord addressing that as his people and as his children they should follow his ways not touching the unclean things (aka sin). Now take these things in account with what Jesus said also in Luke 5:32 that he did not come for the righteous but the sinners. We are vessles of the holy spirit and as such it is our job to ensure that people find God through us, that they see him through us. We cant do so without God or without going to those who are without him. A light shines best in the dark but it is not part of the dark. It should be like in part of psalm 91 where it talks about us witnessing the destruction of the wicked and 10000 falling at our right hand but us not fearing or partaking in the sin and evil but keeping close to the almighty and staying close under his wings. If we are protected and we go into the world among the sinners but not being like them as paul did himself while he was teaching this then we will be serving the Lord well. :)
 
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I can only speak for myself but if I'm an atheist the last thing id be interested in doing was becoming a part of a group that insulted me by calling me an idiot or a moron or a fool all the while telling me I'm going to hell and have no morals to boot because of a lack of belief in God.
 
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JimJimmers

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I can only speak for myself but if I'm an atheist the last thing id be interested in doing was becoming a part of a group that insulted me by calling me an idiot or a moron or a fool all the while telling me I'm going to hell and have no morals to boot because of a lack of belief in God.

And I do think it's important to note exactly what The Bible says. the fool says "there is no God." It doesn't say you're a fool if you don't know, or are skeptical. A lot of so-called atheists are actually agnostic.
 
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didymos

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And I do think it's important to note exactly what The Bible says. the fool says "there is no God." It doesn't say you're a fool if you don't know, or are skeptical. A lot of so-called atheists are actually agnostic.
Semantics won't save you... but Jesus will. :rolleyes: