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LorettaK-9

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I just moved from Florida to North Carolina to learn to train police K-9s. The staff here is really nice and very knowledgeable. None of them live Christian lives. They use profanity a lot. I am living and working here and have no car to get out. Thank goodness I have found a good church and can at least get away on Sundays. I am finding it increasingly difficult being surrounded by the swearing and indecent references.
We are supposed to be in the world but not of it. What is the practical application of this? I will not go with them when they go out drinking, but is it okay to be going to lunch with them? You become who your friends are. I have no real friends here, but I would like to get to know these people.
 
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Forgiven83

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You can absolutely go out to lunch with them!! I am in a similar situation, as I have posted above (see my post on work emails)..I guess its a matter of boundaries, and allowing yourself to get to know them but at the same time making sure that you are no absorbing the bad stuff. The majority of people i work with are not christians, and there are on occasion some profanity thrown around the office, especially in my job as it is very stressful. In addition the content of what I am dealing with is nearly always explicit, dealing with pretty heavy stuff that involves swearing (and yes we do actually have to write the swearing in our reports, just as it was told to us) as well as topics such as abortion, sexual abuse, verbal abuse, neglect, and other issues.

An incredibly wise woman who I consider a bit of a mentor of mind told me a remarkable thing that I am endeavouring to do everyday....at the end of the day, when i jump in my car and im on my way home, I pray to God to wipe my mind clean of all that I have seen and heard. Apparently christian counsellors are taught to do this when they're studying, because you hear the worst of the worst and there has to be a way of not letting it sink into your spirit. I love this idea, of God being able to make you forget all those things you should forget, and in this way I am finding I am not getting bogged down in the bad stuff, and retaining all the info I need to continue the next day without it affecting my spirit or my relationship with God.

In addition, I would say that going out socially with these people is a great way for you to not just relate to them, but for you to SHOW that you're different. For one thing, you dont drink, so go out with them and NOT drink. Show them you can still have a good time. Being a christian shouldnt mean that you miss out fellowshipping with these people just because you dont do everything they do! Now, dont get me wrong, if they're participating in something immoral or illegal do NOT do it too....but going out to dinner, having lunch, even going out on a Friday afternoon and having a coke (or a diet coke whatever u fancy) while they drink is totally ok in my opinion. You have to keep to what YOU know to be right, and what you feel will keep your relationship with God and your testimony to your workmates safe. I have known many people who have been turned to Jesus purely because they watched their friends who were Christian having a good time WITHOUT alcohol, and realised that it was possible!!! Don't be afraid to read your bible at work on your breaks, or to comfort a workmate going through a hard time with something that is slightly biblical in theme. I have made it a point to find out what each of my team members likes (whether it be potato chips, a particular drink, a chocolate bar) and I have started buying that thing for one workmate a week...costs me next to nothing, but it shows I care and I noticed...couple that with their knowledge already that I am a christian and suddenly you have a positive experience with a christian going on! Very cool! Dont make it a secret that you're a christian, and you will find that so long as you dont shove your faith down people's throats they will respect you for it. Most important of all, be yourself, and be ready to answer whenever someone asks you why you are the way you are, be ready to share your faith with them IF they ask. In the meantime, just love them. You never know, you just might be the person Jesus has been waiting to place with these people to show them there is a better way!!!!

Bless you! xox
 
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I just moved from Florida to North Carolina to learn to train police K-9s. The staff here is really nice and very knowledgeable. None of them live Christian lives. They use profanity a lot. I am living and working here and have no car to get out. Thank goodness I have found a good church and can at least get away on Sundays. I am finding it increasingly difficult being surrounded by the swearing and indecent references.
We are supposed to be in the world but not of it. What is the practical application of this? I will not go with them when they go out drinking, but is it okay to be going to lunch with them? You become who your friends are. I have no real friends here, but I would like to get to know these people.


Peace be upon you.
Whenever we ask ourselves something, we always need to turn to God to see what he has to say about this. We must never decide something that is against the will of God. Also we must never BEND his Words to fit our private lives to make it easier for us or for our religion or such in kind. What does GOD have to say about this?

2 Corinthians 6:14-15
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
 
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LynnJ

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I agree with Forgiven that we should set boundaries in our relationships with unbelievers. But, because we are called to be salt and light, we cannot remove ourselves from associating with them. Jesus ate with tax collectors and spent time in homes of unbelievers in order to be a witness of the Father's love to them. I think we should follow Jesus' example and do the same. But you might want to pray before you spend time with your co-workers so that God will give you wisdom as to how to interact with them and give you strength and boldness to maintain your Christian witness while in their presence.
 
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I agree with Forgiven that we should set boundaries in our relationships with unbelievers. But, because we are called to be salt and light, we cannot remove ourselves from associating with them. Jesus ate with tax collectors and spent time in homes of unbelievers in order to be a witness of the Father's love to them. I think we should follow Jesus' example and do the same. But you might want to pray before you spend time with your co-workers so that God will give you wisdom as to how to interact with them and give you strength and boldness to maintain your Christian witness while in their presence.


Peace be upon you.
We should set our boundaries in our relationship with unbelievers. But this subject is solved, God already told us about this in the Bible.

2 Corinthians 6:14-15
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
 
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LorettaK-9

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2 corinthians 6:14-15 is one of the verses that has made me question how much association with non-believers is appropriate. Things have gotten better as one guy who is here for a month is a church-going Christian. Jesus did spend time with the scum of the earth but I don't think he was friends with them.
I have told the folks here that I don't drink and they know that I attend church. I know they recognize the way I behave as different. The realize that I don't use foul language or laugh at dirty jokes and I have noticed some of them censoring themselves when I am around.
 
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Emmanuel23

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I think that we can speak and be friends with no-believers but we dont have to take bad things of them!

2Corinthians 6:14-15 -> Do not be yoked (NIV) or Do not be bound (NASB)

But you can be friend of them! just that!
 
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LorettaK-9

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"for what fellowship hath righteousness withunbelivers? And what communion hath light with darkness?"
Exodus 34:12 "Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee"
James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."
 
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LorettaK-9

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I believe you become who your friends are.
 
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Forgiven83

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I believe you become who your friends are.

If someone (multiple people actually)who were believers hadn't become my friends - CLOSE friends too - then I wouldnt be a christian today. True story. And if I thought that Christians were avoiding me when I was a non believer I would have been very disillusioned about christianity in general.

Jesus walked, talked, ate and fellowshipped with sinners...heck he even died for them. But that didnt make him one.
 
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LynnJ

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Amen, forgiven 83.
 

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I must be rightly related to God to be a friend of God (James 2:23, John 15:15). The friendship that I have with God is the basis for any friendship that I have with others, even the unbeliever. Christ was a friend of publicans and sinners because of His friendship with the Father. He came for sinners because His father sent Him and He did always those things that pleased the Father. This is why there is a distinction in having friendship with the world (James 4:4).

If we have any friendship with the world, it is not of the Father and we become His enemy. Being a friend of sinners is for one purpose, to seek them out and lead them to Christ. If we are being a friend for any other reason, then it is not according to the Father. The sanctification that we have been called unto (2Thes 2:13, 1Pt 1:2) is to have fellowship with the love of the Father, which is contrary to loving the world and the things that are in the world (John 15:19, 1John 2:15, 3:1). The light we have comes from the Father, and that light has no fellowship with darkness and the whole world is in darkness (Eph 6:12, John 3:19, 12:46). We are the light of the world and we are to let our light so shine before men (as God so loved the world) that they may see our good works and glorify our Father which is in heaven (Mt 5:14-16).
 
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luke15chick

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Yes it is true that 2 Corinthians states we are not to be yoked to an ubeliever. However it is also true that Jesus went out to the crowds and preached to them, ate at tax collectors and sinners houses, spoke to Zacheus who was the one that no good man spoke to. The very definition of Christian is to be like Christ. Mark 16:15-16 He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." I too work at a place where I am surrounded by nonChristians, I have chosen to befriend the nonChristians and show them that I am a Christian by my words and actions. I do spend time with them outisde of work and I do make sure the choices I make do not compromise my standards. I do go the extra mile of being more than a good friend to them and when someone is going through a rough time I openly say "I'll pray for you" and I follow through. Because as forgiven83 said, so many Christians do treat nonChristians like a plague and how are they ever to want to be like us, if they are treated in such a manner. Jesus showed love to everyone, especially the ones that no one messed with, the Samaritan woman, demon possessed people, cripples, and so on. I've once heard a person comment that if you notice in the gospels, Jesus spent time with the sinners, but then he also spent some time with the disciples and alone time for himself afterwards.
 
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vasofragil22

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oh yes I know how do u feel.. but hey u know u are light there so u can help those people God brings u to go there with one purpose ... so its ur time not just live with a common christian not live like someone who can give a good testimony and with that u can change the people who are around u and can see how big is our GOD .. and also they can see that we are different but not boring .. we have christ in our heart so we know where and how to find the happiness ... I know that u can ....¡¡¡¡¡