Should Christians be allowed to own a gun legally?

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Roughsoul1991

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I think that is debatable. Our laws are based on the ten commandments. I don't think our laws are based on the laws of Rome. During Jesus day, it was Rome who was ruling the Jewish people.

I would like to see some scripture for your arguments.
The Bible was the most referenced source but Rome's Constitutional Republic was highly prized among the founders. For example,

George Washington mimiced the leadership of Cincinnatus.

Polybius lived under Rome's rise to power and wrote historical accounts.

Polybius sought to answer this question in his book, The Histories.

Polybius believed that Rome’s constitution was effective for two reasons. Firstly, the constitution adapted to suit human nature. Secondly, it prevented what he referred to as “anacyclosis,” a cyclical theory of political evolution and decay

In John Adams’s A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, he cites Polybius numerous times and even dedicates an entire chapter to his theories. Praising the Roman constitution’s separation of powers, Adams writes:

The Roman constitution formed the noblest people and the greatest power that has ever existed. But if all the powers of the consuls, senate, and people had centered in a single assembly of the people, collectively or representatively, will any man pretend to believe that they would have been long free, or ever great?"[33]​
James Madison, discussing the separation of powers, stated that “no political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value.”[34] In Federalist 63, Madison cites Polybius, and he dedicates Federalist 47 entirely to the separation of powers. The influence of Polybius can be keenly felt when Madison writes: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands whether of one, a few or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”[35]

https://fee.org/articles/the-separation-of-powers-from-polybius-to-james-madison/
 

joecoten

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Viva Frei, a Canadian lawyer podcaster, just said on-air that it is illegal to own a firearm in Canada for the purpose of self-defense.
That sounds about right.
 

I_am_Canadian

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Sister salvation, many do not believe we need one, I personally believe all believers should have some protection (Luke 22:36-38!!). Jesus told his people to buy a sword, why? Because if another person is in trouble, YOU can help them!! Peter had no problem cutting the ear off a soldier, and Jesus knowing he would do this sure did not stop him before he did it! (John 18:4-11!!)

Jesus did not rebuke Peter, he just told him that is enough. SO!!!! That is why I carry a weapon, I am trained, and can help another, and have!! I respect those who do not own protection, but we all have different ministries, and we need all in the Body of Christ.
Hey I'll raise a glass of gingerale and drink a toast to the second amendment and the right to bare arms.
 

I_am_Canadian

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I think that is debatable. Our laws are based on the ten commandments. I don't think our laws are based on the laws of Rome. During Jesus day, it was Rome who was ruling the Jewish people.

I would like to see some scripture for your arguments.
I am aware the first colonies were founded by christians, and that the laws are based on the 10 commandments, But I have seen kent hovinds seminar series and debate series, i think he is right on one point, the second amendment wasnt to protect hunters rights. The founding fathers of america put the second amendment in to protect citizens from a corrupt government.
 

Seeking-Christ

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The Bible was the most referenced source but Rome's Constitutional Republic was highly prized among the founders. For example,

George Washington mimiced the leadership of Cincinnatus.

Polybius lived under Rome's rise to power and wrote historical accounts.

Polybius sought to answer this question in his book, The Histories.

Polybius believed that Rome’s constitution was effective for two reasons. Firstly, the constitution adapted to suit human nature. Secondly, it prevented what he referred to as “anacyclosis,” a cyclical theory of political evolution and decay

In John Adams’s A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, he cites Polybius numerous times and even dedicates an entire chapter to his theories. Praising the Roman constitution’s separation of powers, Adams writes:

The Roman constitution formed the noblest people and the greatest power that has ever existed. But if all the powers of the consuls, senate, and people had centered in a single assembly of the people, collectively or representatively, will any man pretend to believe that they would have been long free, or ever great?"[33]​
James Madison, discussing the separation of powers, stated that “no political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value.”[34] In Federalist 63, Madison cites Polybius, and he dedicates Federalist 47 entirely to the separation of powers. The influence of Polybius can be keenly felt when Madison writes: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands whether of one, a few or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”[35]

https://fee.org/articles/the-separation-of-powers-from-polybius-to-james-madison/
I don't understand your point. If our founders built us on Rome then perhaps they are wrong.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I don't understand your point. If our founders built us on Rome then perhaps they are wrong.
The founders studied history and every law giving nation, every government, and knew the Bible better than most people today.

They used the Bible as the foundation for moral guidance in laws and for government structure but they also took what worked in history for government. Washington paved the way for the two indispensable pillars: Religion and Morality. He believed this was crucial to prevent the moral decay that governments always followed.

They designed the best governmental system the world had ever seen by implementing the Constitutional Republican for of checks and balances much like the Roman Republic but they learned from Rome's weaknesses.

Unfortunately, no free system will hold if the people are morally corrupt.
 

TheLearner

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My question is very simple. Is it okay for Christians to own a gun legally for protection purposes? I would love to hear what other people has to say in regards to that.

I personally believe that we dont need a gun, but at the same time, arent everyone entitled to protect themselves? Now, you see where the confusion is with me lol :)
Yes we can own fire arms. I personally use flood lights and tranquizer guns. I need only stop an intruder, not kill him. When I was younger, I killed three intuders on different ocauaions. I was paid by the Major to move to a different City. He even paid my rent up front for a few years.
 

I_am_Canadian

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Yes we can own fire arms. I personally use flood lights and tranquizer guns. I need only stop an intruder, not kill him. When I was younger, I killed three intuders on different ocauaions. I was paid by the Major to move to a different City. He even paid my rent up front for a few years.
Surprised he didnt give you the key to the city for lowering crime in the city