"2000 Mules" movie

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SomeDisciple

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https://www.npr.org/2022/06/13/1104647454/jan-6-2-000-mules-trump-election

I find it somewhat odd that the Jan. 6 committee would even bother discussing 2000 Mules at all- you would think they would be more interested in the agitators that were actually present at the Capitol.... anyway, it's sad to see the comments by Barr were typical of the mainstream zombies.

"It doesn't establish illegal trafficking", "it's not proof", "even if trafficking was proved it doesn't make the votes illegal". I get that he is a lawyer, and looking at this through a jurisprudence perspective- which is fine- but you have to look at it from a different angle too, or you will miss the point- this isn't a case he is prosecuting in a courtroom- you don't need "legal analysis"; you need "threat-assessment".

Even if there is nothing to be done about the 2020 election results... that doesn't mean there should be apathy concerning election procedures being followed. If there was ANY coordinated effort to collect and move ballots illegally, would you assume that they stopped at merely trafficking ballots? Obviously not.
 

Nehemiah6

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What makes me not believe the election was rigged is:
And you have conveniently forgotten that seventeen states filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court to bring this election fraud to light and bring the criminals to justice, and SCOTUS betrayed its oath of office, the Constitution, the rule of law, and Donald Trump, in order to support the Democrats and their fraudulent "president". Now the judges are under threat of assassination because they choose to be traitors. And America has been brought to its knees by a the domestic enemies in government.
 

Nehemiah6

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Summary: Cell phone "geotracking" data, video surveillance, and eyewitness testimony, all suggest the possibility that a large amount of "mail-in" ballots were fraudulently procured for the 2020 election.
Not "possibility" but "actuality". Let's stop beating around the bush. Why do you think that Dominion Voting Machines were ready to bring huge lawsuits against those who were going to expose the fraud, if there was nothing to hide? Why do you think Dominion Voting Machines are being banned in certain jurisdictions? Of course, the way the Trump team handled this was extremely poor and incompetent, and as a result nothing was accomplished. He also had traitors Bill Barr and Mike Pence to thank for sabotaging his presidency. But all those were his choices.
 

SomeDisciple

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Wow....
Bill Bar Falsely Thinks Geotracking Can Be Used for Jan 6 But Not for "2000 Mules"

The hypocrisy, I suppose, should not be a surprise. But there it is. Dinesh has a good point- I don't think he watched the movie.

Any supposed conservatives that are just stupidly and blindly repeating the nonsense of the left should never get support from the people ever again. It's one thing to offer legit criticism- but they're just saying things to try and minimize the movie's impact.

It doesn't matter if you don't like Trump, or D'souza- whatever- I could care less about them. You don't sit there and pretend that this movie amounts to nothing- especially if you don't know what you're even talking about in the first place.
 
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Sorry, near as I can tell Mossad operates most of the US media, thus most of the political parties.
 

SomeDisciple

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https://www.npr.org/2022/09/20/1123...tion-deniers-are-facing-growing-legal-trouble
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/14/texas-true-the-vote-lawsuit-konnech/

I suppose that 2000 Mules was always going to be targeted in this way: honestly I'm surprised that it has taken this long... but what that tells us is that people are digging deep and carefully constructing their cases... it should be interesting to see what might be revealed as a result of these lawsuits: Surely Dinesh and Co. were prepared for this... hopefully they had planned on it from the beginning. True the vote is also under fire, and I doubt they are the type of people caught with their pants down.
 

Dude653

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Remember when the my pillow guy held a press conference claiming he would produce evidence for election fraud and didn't produce any evidence?
 

ZNP

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Remember when Stacy Abrams blamed her loss on voter suppression?

Remember when Jen Psaki said that election integrity laws were authoritarian?
 

Dude653

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Remember when Trump instructed his voters not to use mail-in ballots and then complained that Joe Biden was getting all the mail-in ballots? Remember when Trump cut funding to postal services trying to keep mail in ballots clogged up in the system?
 

SomeDisciple

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The Postal Service makes its own revenue from the sale of postage; and doesn't really need outside funding. Besides that, most of the mule-in ballots went through the ballot-boxes and not through the postal service. I was a city carrier back during the 2020 election and I handled exactly zero ballots. Not a single one- and we were instructed to stop at every house and check every mailbox for outgoing ballots. Over 10,000 people zip code (I know, not huge) but you could hold all the ballots collected by the entire office with one hand.

Trump was trying to have the PMG get rid of some sorting machines, I think, so they wouldn't have to pay the technicians to save money- but the ballots weren't sent to the machines with the regular mail to begin with... there was nothing he could do to slow down the ballots.

Also, just because we liked Trump more than a typical communist-globalist trash President; that doesn't mean that we do everything he says. It IS likely that many of his voters avoided the mule-in system because they didn't trust it in the first place... so, sure, many of the mule-in ballots were probably legit Biden votes; but that doesn't mean they were all legit Biden-votes.

I will concede that there has been some "barking up the wrong tree"- a lot of easter egg hunting, and desperate attempts to find fraud where there was none; but the mail-in ballots, and the associated procedures merit scrutiny and criticism, and should be revised or eliminated (not to include regular qualified absentee ballots).
 

Dude653

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There's a reason even Republican judges throughout every one of Trump's lawsuits.
Imagine you told a judge I robbed the bank and expected him to prosecute me when there's no evidence that the bank was robbed in the first place?
 

ZNP

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Everyone is critical of the flaws of others but blind to their own.

Falsness lasts for an hour, the truth lasts forever.
 

Dude653

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Everyone is critical of the flaws of others but blind to their own.

Falsness lasts for an hour, the truth lasts forever.
Yeah. The whole plank in your eye thing. I get that but I'm still not convinced there was any election fraud.
 

ZNP

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Yeah. The whole plank in your eye thing. I get that but I'm still not convinced there was any election fraud.
There are several ways that a foolish man is revealed.

1. Anger without cause. As long as you can speak peaceably with people you disagree with and be open to learning from them then you aren't a fool. Maybe ignorant, but not foolish. TDS is what fools have, and if you see someone with that you know they are a fool.

2. Speech without profit. We have seen that Fauci and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden all have this issue. Harris said she would put an end to human rights abuses at the border on day one if she were elected. That was a 0. Joe Biden said he would squash Covid if he were elected. 0. He said he had 30 years of experience and would handle our foreign policy in a more mature and dignified way. 0. The rest of the world mocks him and treats him like a clown. Everything Fauci pushed had no profit or the profit was outweighed by the Loss, easily a net 0.

3. Change without progress. We have seen dramatic, rapid, and stunning change in the last 21 months of Biden's administration. Have we made progress? Not in the economy, not with peace and security, not with the border, not with crime and not with unifying the country.

4. Inquiry without object. January 6th committee looks like a sham when compared with the FBI sitting on Hunter Biden's laptop for 3 years. We see terrorist attacks against pro lifers take a back seat to prosecuting parents at school board meetings and grandparents trespassing in the capitol. We know who the ringleader of Jan 6th is and yet he is not being tried. We have video of someone placing a pipe bomb and yet we still haven't identified that person.

5. Trusting strangers. Biden is selling our strategic oil reserve to China. He thought that Saudi Arabia would help him out by producing more oil and instead they cut production. We gave billions of dollars of armaments to the Taliban. We have given tens of Billions of dollars to Ukraine.

6. Mistaking friends for foes. Biden has called 50% of America terrorists. He sees people who are warning him that these policies are catastrophic as his enemy and thinking those that are pushing these policies are his friends. Those people who he thought were friends are now ready to toss him overboard to the sharks. That is why the Hunter Biden felony story is now being covered on all MSM outlets.
 

Cameron143

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Yeah. The whole plank in your eye thing. I get that but I'm still not convinced there was any election fraud.
You do realize there were more ballots cast than registered voters, right?
 

ZNP

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You do realize there were more ballots cast than registered voters, right?
If dead people are buried in the state then they can be viewed as "residents", Also is it really that hard to believe that the people of Detroit would come out in record numbers, much higher than the amount of votes that Obama got?

Are you against fair elections? If the Democrats don't cheat they can't win and that is not fair.
 

Cameron143

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If dead people are buried in the state then they can be viewed as "residents", Also is it really that hard to believe that the people of Detroit would come out in record numbers, much higher than the amount of votes that Obama got?

Are you against fair elections? If the Democrats don't cheat they can't win and that is not fair.
I'm certainly not against fair elections. Other stats you may or not be aware of:

Trump received 33% of the Asian vote, 33% of the Hispanic vote, and 9% of the Black vote.
It is impossible for any Republican with those percentages to lose a national election.
 

ZNP

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I'm certainly not against fair elections. Other stats you may or not be aware of:

Trump received 33% of the Asian vote, 33% of the Hispanic vote, and 9% of the Black vote.
It is impossible for any Republican with those percentages to lose a national election.
yes, but Biden received 100% of the deceased vote.
 

ZNP

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Apparently democrats have better afterlife programs.
Look at the policies, everyone is upset about the rising crime, the fentanyl deaths, and the President talking about Armageddon and nuclear holocaust. But consider this from his base. Maybe if you were dead and in hell there is an incentive program if you can recruit others to join you. After all, why wouldn't hell be run like a used car lot where all the cars are destined for the crusher? Biden is simply catering to his base.