666 and 911 - Numbers buried in plain site

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Reading The Two Babylons by the late Alexander Hislop: Chapter VII Section V The Name of the Beast, The Number of His Name The Invisible Head of the Papacy.

Dagon and the Pope being now identified, this brings us naturally and easily to the long-sought name
and number of the beast, and confirms, by entirely new evidence, the old Protestant view of the subject.
The name "Lateinos" has been generally accepted by Protestant writers, as having many elements of
probability to recommend it. But yet there has been always found a certain deficiency, and it has been
felt that something was wanting to put it beyond all possibility of doubt. Now, looking at the subject
from the Babylonian point of view, we shall find both the name and number of the beast brought home
to us in such a way as leaves nothing to be desired on the point of evidence. Osiris, or Nimrod, whom
the Pope represents, was called by many different titles, and therefore, as Wilkinson remarks, he was
much in the same position as his wife, who was called "Myrionymus," the goddess with "ten thousand
names." Among these innumerable names, how shall we ascertain the name at which the Spirit of God
points in the enigmatical language that speaks of the name of the beast, and the number of his name? If
we know the Apocalyptic name of the system, that will lead us to the name of the head of the system.
The name of the system is "Mystery" (Rev 17:5). Here, then, we have the key that at once unlocks the
enigma. We have now only to inquire what was the name by which Nimrod was known as the god of the
Chaldean Masteries. That name, as we have seen, was Saturn. Saturn and Mystery are both Chaldean
words, and they are correlative terms. As Mystery signifies the Hidden system, so Saturn signifies the
Hidden god. *
* In the Litany of the Mass, the worshippers are taught thus to pray: "God Hidden, and
my Saviour, have mercy upon us." (M'GAVIN'S Protestant) Whence can this invocation
of the "God Hidden" have come, but from the ancient worship of Saturn, the "Hidden
God"? As the Papacy has canonised the Babylonian god by the name of St. Dionysius,
and St. Bacchus, the "martyr," so by this very name of "Satur" is he also enrolled in the
calendar; for March 29th is the festival of "St. Satur," the martyr. (CHAMBER'S Book of
Days)
To those who were initiated the god was revealed; to all else he was hidden. Now, the name Saturn in
Chaldee is pronounced Satur; but, as every Chaldee scholar knows, consists only of four letters, thus--
Stur. This name contains exactly the Apocalyptic number 666:--
S = 060
T = 400
U = 006
R = 200
If the Pope is, as we have seen, the legitimate representative of Saturn, the number of the Pope, as head
of the Mystery of Iniquity, is just 666. But still further it turns out, as shown above, that the original
name of Rome itself was Saturnia, "the city of Saturn." This is vouched alike by Ovid, by Pliny, and by
Aurelius Victor. Thus, then, the Pope has a double claim to the name and number of the beast. He is the
only legitimate representative of the original Saturn at this day in existence, and he reigns in the very
city of the seven hills where the Roman Saturn formerly reigned; and, from his residence in which, the
whole of Italy was "long after called by his name," being commonly named "the Saturnian land." But
what bearing, it may be said, has this upon the name Lateinos, which is commonly believed to be the
"name of the beast"? Much. It proves that the common opinion is thoroughly well-founded. Saturn and
Lateinos are just synonymous, having precisely the same meaning, and belonging equally to the same
god. The reader cannot have forgotten the lines of Virgil, which showed that Lateinos, to whom the


Romans or Latin race traced back their lineage, was represented with a glory around his head, to show
that he was a "child of the Sun." Thus, then, it is evident that, in popular opinion, the original Lateinos
had occupied the very same position as Saturn did in the Mysteries, who was equally worshipped as the
"offspring of the Sun." Moreover, it is evident that the Romans knew that the name "Lateinos" signifies
the "Hidden One," for their antiquarians invariably affirm that Latium received its name from Saturn
"lying hid" there. On etymological grounds, then, even on the testimony of the Romans, Lateinos is
equivalent to the "Hidden One"; that is, to Saturn, the "god of Mystery." *


If STUR is the 666, we find it in the Hebrew Alpha/Numerical Gematria. Samekh=60; Tav=400; Vav=6; Resh=200 ----Total 666

Now, Lateinos is equivalent to Saturn/Stur, what does Lateinos mean? In Greek Alpha/Numerical Gematria we find:

Lambola=30;
Alph=1;
Taw=300;
Epsilon=5;
iota=10;
Nu=50;
Omnicron=70;
Sigma=200
----Total 666

As Christians we have a mixed bag of some of the Hebrew text and some of the Greek text, Latin and Aramaic all translated into English.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word" What does "Word" mean? "Logos" specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (that is, Christ).

Rev_1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Isa_46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

First verse in the Bible is "rê’shı̂yth"/ראשׁית "In the beginning" Last verse in the Bible Revelation 22:21 "And the grace of our Lord Jesus" Both "in the beginning /"rê’shı̂yth"/ראשׁית" and "grace/charis/χάρις" have a gematria of 911. They are bookends. However, in all honesty, in the Hebrew text, reshiyth has a very large Bet which is the Son was from the beginning and grace was also from the beginning, and in the ending, grace of our Lord Jesus, the Son. Our LORD (YHWY) and His Son (Yah's Salvation/Yeshua) are so amazing and what they have hidden in the WORD.

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joecoten

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Though I haven't heard of Greek gematria, I am aware of Hebrew gematria. I believe the latter is part of the awesomeness of God shown through His word. Labelling it witchcraft is, in my opinion, irresponsible and spoken out of ignorance.
 
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Though I haven't heard of Greek gematria, I am aware of Hebrew gematria. I believe the latter is part of the awesomeness of God shown through His word. Labelling it witchcraft is, in my opinion, irresponsible and spoken out of ignorance.
It is not out of ignorance nor irresponsibility. Gematria is a system of witchcraft and divination. Such a practice is also called numerology. The God of the Bible does not look favorably upon such practices I assure you.
 
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joecoten

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It is not out of ignorance nor irresponsibility. Gematria is a system of witchcraft and divination. Such a practice is also called numerology. The God of the Bible does not look favorably upon such practices I assure you.
I rest my case.
 

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Though I haven't heard of Greek gematria, I am aware of Hebrew gematria. I believe the latter is part of the awesomeness of God shown through His word. Labelling it witchcraft is, in my opinion, irresponsible and spoken out of ignorance.
The numeric value of Jesus' name in the underlying Greek of the New Testament is 888, and I don't believe that that has anything at all to do with witchcraft.

Seeing how the number 8 often refers to new beginnings in scripture, it's fitting that Jesus' name should have a numeric value of 888.
 
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Numerology is divination assigning occult significance to numbers. It is witchcraft and God does not like witchcraft to put it extremely mildly.
 
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joecoten

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There is biblical numerology. Numbers can be used in witchcraft. Then there are letters. Which can also be used in witchcraft. Hebrew letters also have numerical value. There are those who believe that translating the original Hebrew into other languages strips God's word of some of it's message. I think they have a point.
 
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I've often thought that when one first believes a scripture, they hold onto it very tightly so that the enemy doesn't steal it. I think this is good. But perhaps we can hold on so tightly that we prevent ourselves from being able to receive further revelation.
It's like we learn 1 and 3. We know they are 1 and 3 and won't be talked out of it. But we fail to see that there is a 2. I'm speaking this way to put across a concept.
One should never seek guidance from numerology, as we are to be led by the Lord. Having said that, the Lord sometimes speaks to me things through numbers. For instance, He will highlight the number 8 to me to inform me about a new beginning.
 
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There is biblical numerology. Numbers can be used in witchcraft. Then there are letters. Which can also be used in witchcraft. Hebrew letters also have numerical value. There are those who believe that translating the original Hebrew into other languages strips God's word of some of it's message. I think they have a point.
There is no such thing as biblical numerology. The God of the Bible says this about divination and witchcraft.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
 

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Numerology is divination assigning occult significance to numbers. It is witchcraft and God does not like witchcraft to put it extremely mildly.
Sometimes yes, and sometimes no.

Let's not forget what God said here:

Revelation chapter 13

[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Here, God equated "wisdom" and "understanding" (NOT "witchcraft") to those who could accurately "count the number of the beast" or "the number of his name" which equals 666.

This 666 is but one of many indicators that the Papacy/the Vatican is the literal kingdom of antichrist, and you can read what I've previously written about the same here if you're interested in doing so:

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...m-sea-1-from-earth.205994/page-2#post-4866614
 
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joecoten

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There is no such thing as biblical numerology. The God of the Bible says this about divination and witchcraft.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.


11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Okay...you're unteachable, I get it.
 
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Sometimes yes, and sometimes no.

Let's not forget what God said here:

Revelation chapter 13

[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Here, God equated "wisdom" and "understanding" (NOT "witchcraft") to those who could accurately "count the number of the beast" or "the number of his name" which equals 666.

This 666 is but one of many indicators that the Papacy/the Vatican is the literal kingdom of antichrist, and you can read what I've previously written about the same here if you're interested in doing so:

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...m-sea-1-from-earth.205994/page-2#post-4866614
Witchcraft will not solve the number of the beast, you will only arrive to the wrong answer.
 
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Okay...you're unteachable, I get it.
When they come to me and say "come let us seek unto witches and diviners", I shall say "should a people seek unto witches and diviners that peep and mutter? No, but we shall seek unto the Lord God."
 
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joecoten

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I understand that fear of deception holds people back. But fear is contagious. As you say, God hates witchcraft. God speaks to me through numbers, sometimes. Being led by anything except the Lord is bad. Which is why horoscopes are bad. But being led by fear is also not good.
"and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death." - Hebrews 2:15
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the brethren will call another a servant of Satan. This is a very serious sin.
You have a nice day.
 
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I understand that fear of deception holds people back. But fear is contagious. As you say, God hates witchcraft. God speaks to me through numbers, sometimes. Being led by anything except the Lord is bad. Which is why horoscopes are bad. But being led by fear is also not good.
"and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death." - Hebrews 2:15
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the brethren will call another a servant of Satan. This is a very serious sin.
You have a nice day.
Fear God only is the beginning of all wisdom. Numerology is witchcraft, do not go seeking after witchcraft or you will be cut off from the Voice of God.

Leviticus 20:6
6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.
 

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Then simply ignore me, but know that God is not wrong to forbid witchcraft and he forbade it long before I was ever born.
I never said that God is wrong to forbid witchcraft.

Instead, I simply pointed out to you that God himself encouraged a form of numerology in relation to the number of the beast's name.

That is Biblical truth.

You're free to "ignore" that if you'd like to, but I'd solemnly advise against the same.

I'd also solemnly advise you to stop falsely accusing born again Christians of using witchcraft.
 
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I never said that God is wrong to forbid witchcraft.

Instead, I simply pointed out to you that God himself encouraged a form of numerology in relation to the number of the beast's name.

That is Biblical truth.

You're free to "ignore" that if you'd like to, but I'd solemnly advise against the same.

I'd also solemnly advise you to stop falsely accusing born again Christians of using witchcraft.
God did not ever encourage witchcraft, quite the opposite.