ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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saintrose

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And sane Christian is on the same wavelength as you. I simply refuse to listen to the radio or TV any more. Exposing yourself to propaganda is harmful. All news networks, newspapers, and web news sources (barring a handful of sane conservative voices) have become propagandists, and exceeded the wildest dreams of Hitler, Stalin, Lenin and Mao.
You are right 1000 percent.

Do you have any guesses as to what will happen next? Christ told us to watch for the signs and it seems to me as if we're close. I've been laying awake at night praying. Sometimes God will give me a foretaste of heaven and I'll get an overwhelming sense of holiness and a strong desire to read the Word, but then it passes and it's back to living in this sin-sick world. I don't have the stomach for it anymore.
 

saintrose

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Didn't you know that they are the ones that created the vaccine?
Genipher he's using a form of propaganda. If you think that the powers that be don't hire disinformation agents who hang out on Christian forums then you may want to research it in depth. They sometimes work in teams to try to overcome someone who is trying to share truth. They are sometimes very skilled and articulate. Even if he is not a paid disinformation agent then he is trying to mislead people. Be as wise as the serpent, but as harmless as the dove.

https://www.dailywritingtips.com/50-types-of-propaganda/

I would be wary engaging with him. His motives are not pure. A verse came to me yesterday as I considered him:

2 Corinthians 11:13

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.”
 

saintrose

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One of these days you are going to "wake up" and realize that 99% of everything you hear and read is a lie. And, when you do, you will understand what we have been trying to tell you.

Seriously.

There is a "reality" to our 'reality' that is very similar to what is illustrated by/in the movie THE MATRIX. (Not the 'physical' aspect of it; rather, the "Grand Illusion" aspect of it that is "designed" to guide the thoughts and actions of the people who are "trapped" in The Matrix.)

Most of the stuff you hear and read - sounds good - makes sense - etc.; however, most of it is "manufactured" for your benefit -- to deceive you into believing in a 'false' reality - and, to keep your attention anywhere but on the 'true' reality.
Very well said Gary.
 

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I'm really glad you have work; it's a fear of mine with what is ahead for all of us since jobs were mostly all sent out of the country. We've had traitors in the highest office which have basically ruined America. The bills don't go away - I read that a number of Americans are going to be evicted. I spoke with someone who came out to find a man sleeping on their lawn. She said people on her street are living in their cars.

I don't know about Universal basic income - it would take a lot of fear and uncertainty away. It seems ludicrous that some are billionaires while others worry where their next meal is going to come from. So I'm kind of mixed about that. What are people to do who can't find work that will pay the bills? Starve? I know my husband and I struggled early on - we did without and bought everything cheap. We're very frugal but I still worry. I've been reading the Bible every day and praying because this uncertainty isn't any good. It was really wrong what has been done to this country. I'm really hoping that God will have mercy. As you said, let's hope for the best.

Here is an article from Lew Rockwell:

The End Is Coming Very Soon, and Few Americans Are Willing to Do Anything to Stop It!
By Gary D. Barnett
December 19, 2020
Yes, it's tough times for many people, but I'm thankful the God keeps providing. Hopefully things get for everyone next year.
 

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I'm really glad you have work; it's a fear of mine with what is ahead for all of us since jobs were mostly all sent out of the country. We've had traitors in the highest office which have basically ruined America. The bills don't go away - I read that a number of Americans are going to be evicted. I spoke with someone who came out to find a man sleeping on their lawn. She said people on her street are living in their cars.

I don't know about Universal basic income - it would take a lot of fear and uncertainty away. It seems ludicrous that some are billionaires while others worry where their next meal is going to come from. So I'm kind of mixed about that. What are people to do who can't find work that will pay the bills? Starve? I know my husband and I struggled early on - we did without and bought everything cheap. We're very frugal but I still worry. I've been reading the Bible every day and praying because this uncertainty isn't any good. It was really wrong what has been done to this country. I'm really hoping that God will have mercy. As you said, let's hope for the best.

Here is an article from Lew Rockwell:

The End Is Coming Very Soon, and Few Americans Are Willing to Do Anything to Stop It!
By Gary D. Barnett
December 19, 2020

“Governments don’t want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear.”
~ George Carlin

Is this country facing the end of times? Are the people in this country oblivious to any reality or truth, or are they simply consumed by ignorance, passivity, cowardice, and mediocrity? Will this onslaught of tyranny by the controlling class and the politicians continue unabated, or will enough wake up in time to stand against the total decimation of their lives, their property, their freedom, and their land? What could possibly motivate the masses to voluntarily accept their own servitude, a servitude that can only lead to their imminent demise? Even the most simplistic life forms on this planet possess the basic instinct of self defense, so why is it that the supposed most intelligent of all living beings can be controlled and brutalized to the point of extinction, without lifting a finger to protect their own interests? Today in America, the people are drowning in a pool of their own blood, while their chosen masters are feasting on the remains.

There is very little time left to change this course we are on today, as this plot toward the great reset of the world is close at hand. In the past when liberty has been threatened, some fought back and won, but most sat back and waited, hoping others would come to their rescue, and save them from themselves. Every time threats have come and gone, there was less freedom and much more control. Each and every tyrannical event brought an assault against liberty that remained long after any so-called ‘return to normal’ was expected. ‘Normal’ has been forever changing, meaning every new normal resulted in less freedom and more authoritarian measures. That is until today, as now we face an end to any freedom, and a life of submission and enslavement. Unless and until the current ruling oligarchy is eliminated or weakened to the point of impotence, and by whatever means necessary, the tyranny will run its course until it has total control or the entire system collapses under its own weight.

Throughout history, kingdoms, states, and nations have come and gone. Empires reign, but always eventually fall. After societal failure, a better system may be in place temporarily, as happened here in this country after the ousting of British rule, but due to power, greed, and weak and complacent populations, the collapse of societies has always been inevitable. This one is no different. The real question is how long will it last? Considering the ‘assumed’ founding, this nation has only existed for a little over 240 years. Historically speaking, this is a very short time indeed, but the march toward a totalitarian end is near. We are now on the brink of that precipice, with one foot already dangling over the cliff. There will be no return to ‘normal’ or any notion of freedom, unless a complete dismantling of this very flawed governing system is forthcoming. That can only happen if a majority of the people not only desire it, but also are willing to take any and all risk to regain their own independence.

At this stage, our probable downfall will not be due to the few evil oligarchs that are perpetrating this fraud called a ‘virus pandemic,’ it will be due to a complete abandonment of self-responsibility by the people themselves. This truth has to be acknowledged before any relief is possible. So long as blame is spread wide in order to appease the feeble psyche of the pitiful masses, and no accountability for one’s own life and existence is accepted, then no resolution will be attainable. We now live in a society that has lost its ability to function without rule. The herd is forever looking to find a master instead of looking to self. So long as this attitude is present in the majority, individual sovereignty will not prevail, and a population of order-takers and rule-followers will be the result. That cannot lead to freedom, but only to complete subjugation of the American people. Five hundred years ago, Étienne de La Boétie wrote “The Politics of Obedience and The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude.” The people of this country have voluntarily given up their freedom, and in the process have become obedient serfs. In this passage below, he summed up the essence of voluntary slavery through obedient behavior.

“It amazes us to hear accounts of the valor that liberty arouses in the hearts of those who defend it; but who could believe reports of what goes on every day among the inhabitants of some countries, who could really believe that one man alone may mistreat a hundred thousand and deprive them of their liberty? Who would credit such a report if he merely heard it, without being present to witness the event? And if this condition occurred only in distant lands and were reported to us, which one among us would not assume the tale to be imagined or invented, and not really true? Obviously there is no need of fighting to overcome this single tyrant, for he is automatically defeated if the country refuses consent to its own enslavement: it is not necessary to deprive him of anything, but simply to give him nothing; there is no need that the country make an effort to do anything for itself provided it does nothing against itself. It is therefore the inhabitants themselves who permit, or, rather, bring about, their own subjection, since by ceasing to submit they would put an end to their servitude.

How many times have Americans criticized those in other lands for allowing tyrants to rule over them without rising up to protect their own liberty? How many times have those in this country condemned totalitarian monsters across the world, and called for them to be removed or killed? How many times have Americans cheered for aggressive war against other nations because they lived under brutal regimes? How many times have Americans bragged about being exceptional, and falsely declared that they are freest people on earth? How many times has this American population allowed that same tyranny and brutality here at home and done nothing?
I can tell you, most all in this country are voluntarily allowing this takeover today, and are doing absolutely nothing to stop it. Civil disobedience and mass dissent would be enough to quell this onslaught of government lies, carnage, murder, and liberty destruction, but while you condemn others, you sit idle and watch your own freedom taken away without ever lifting a finger to stop it. Shame on all of you who refuse to disobey, and refuse to defend your own freedom!
The enemy of soul loves to bring fear and confusion into the lives of people of God. Satan controls every aspect of our lives, that is why we should cleanse our souls before the four angels let go of the four winds on the earth and this will hurt the earth. The time is now for preparation to build up our faith and trust in God. As we are seening all the governments, legislative halls, judges, regilious leaders have surrendered to the pandemic. Cash is nearly removed from circulation. I marvelled at the mastermind behind this pandemic. Everything has been so well thought about ahead of time. But in these last days, we would rather want to be on the side of God then on the side of the majority of people. Are you willing to give up the comfort of the this life for little while until Jesus comes and live luxury for the rest of eternity. When the plagues fall on the ungodly, which side you want to be on? And we have nothing to fear, as long as we place our faith in our creator. We will be on the winning side. I choose rather to starve from hunger or die at the sword. Pray that our heart will have heavenly treasure and not earthly treasure where we will suffer loss. If we got heavenly treasure we won't suffer loss on the earth.
 

PennEd

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Better read ALL the Tweets here Mr. Scribe, and the you other Covidians!

(Covidian)- A person who pushes the idea that a Coronavirus, of which we have had in the human pop. for thousands of years, should facilitate the abolition of freedom and Constitutional rights, push untested, genetic altering vaccines, and morph into jerky, obnoxious, busybody, Karens!

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/wi.../AlexBerenson/status/1340507093904859136?s=20
 

kinda

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Better read ALL the Tweets here Mr. Scribe, and the you other Covidians!

(Covidian)- A person who pushes the idea that a Coronavirus, of which we have had in the human pop. for thousands of years, should facilitate the abolition of freedom and Constitutional rights, push untested, genetic altering vaccines, and morph into jerky, obnoxious, busybody, Karens!

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/with_replies?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1340507093904859136|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.webbotforum.com/index.php?app=coremodule=systemcontroller=embedurl=https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1340507093904859136?s=20

Sounds about right. Some people just like telling people how to live, and get their kicks off of power trips.

I would totally be like the Pilgrims right now, sail away to a far away land for religious freedom, but not sure where this new land could be.
 

PennEd

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Sounds about right. Some people just like telling people how to live, and get their kicks off of power trips.

I would totally be like the Pilgrims right now, sail away to a far away land for religious freedom, but not sure where this new land could be.
Here's the story on it. Hope Scribe and his Covidian cohorts finally believe those of us that truly have THEIR best interests at heart:
*** EVERYONE AGREES THE SECOND REQUIRED SHOT OF THE POISON WILL BE WORSE***
CDC Issues New Guidelines, Launches Probe After 1000s Negatively-Affected Following COVID-19 Vaccination

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...ter-1000s-negatively-affected-following-covid
 

kinda

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Here's the story on it. Hope Scribe and his Covidian cohorts finally believe those of us that truly have THEIR best interests at heart:
*** EVERYONE AGREES THE SECOND REQUIRED SHOT OF THE POISON WILL BE WORSE***
CDC Issues New Guidelines, Launches Probe After 1000s Negatively-Affected Following COVID-19 Vaccination

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...ter-1000s-negatively-affected-following-covid

This is just immediate side effects that are being reported. Not saying this isn't a concern, but what about long term side effects?!?!

Can we safely say, that the vaccine is dangerous now? Not unless thousands of people don't count.


 

Genipher

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This is just immediate side effects that are being reported. Not saying this isn't a concern, but what about long term side effects?!?!

Can we safely say, that the vaccine is dangerous now? Not unless thousands of people don't count.
Over 1% have had adverse reactions to the vaccine.
I know death and injury can't really be compared but in the US, only .002% of those that have gotten Covid, died from it. Numbers could be less since many people may have had it (my family included) and not been tested or realized they had it.

In my opinion, the risk of a vaccine injury is "scarier" than possibly getting Covid.
 
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Genipher he's using a form of propaganda. If you think that the powers that be don't hire disinformation agents who hang out on Christian forums then you may want to research it in depth. They sometimes work in teams to try to overcome someone who is trying to share truth. They are sometimes very skilled and articulate. Even if he is not a paid disinformation agent then he is trying to mislead people. Be as wise as the serpent, but as harmless as the dove.

https://www.dailywritingtips.com/50-types-of-propaganda/

I would be wary engaging with him. His motives are not pure. A verse came to me yesterday as I considered him:

2 Corinthians 11:13

“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.”
If someone will pay me for debating an antivaxxer I would gladly take the money. Where do I sign up?

And thanks for the compliments on my articulation skills but I am just a country boy from Texas and not very educated.

Which simply goes to show you how easy it is for anyone to debunk the stupid posts in this forum. The rest of your comments I will pass over and forgive as it is obvious that you have some issues and I am sorry about that. I will pray for you.
 
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Over 1% have had adverse reactions to the vaccine.
I know death and injury can't really be compared but in the US, only .002% of those that have gotten Covid, died from it. Numbers could be less since many people may have had it (my family included) and not been tested or realized they had it.

In my opinion, the risk of a vaccine injury is "scarier" than possibly getting Covid.
Probably 75% have adverse affects. They are mild fever after 5 to 7 hours that last through the first day. Then there is mild headache, muscle soreness (like when you have a fever) and a few other things. All of these are due to your immune system kicking in and creating the anitbodies. This is expected and is Good News, it means it worked!!!

As to allergic reactions there have only been 6 reported out of 270,000 shots as of a couple of days ago. And those were also not serious and soon resolved. At least 4 of those were known to have allergic reactions to vaccines, medications and other things.

Let's keep it real. :)
 
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Over 1% have had adverse reactions to the vaccine.
I know death and injury can't really be compared but in the US, only .002% of those that have gotten Covid, died from it. Numbers could be less since many people may have had it (my family included) and not been tested or realized they had it.

In my opinion, the risk of a vaccine injury is "scarier" than possibly getting Covid.
It may be your opinion, but there are not facts to back it up. So far there have been no serious adverse affects out of 270,000 shots but if 270,000 get sick with COVID the mortality rate for the past year demonstrates that about 5400 would die. If you lowered it to 1% that would still be 2700 dead. No one has died from the vaccine so your logic is severely flawed.
 

kinda

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Over 1% have had adverse reactions to the vaccine.
I know death and injury can't really be compared but in the US, only .002% of those that have gotten Covid, died from it. Numbers could be less since many people may have had it (my family included) and not been tested or realized they had it.

In my opinion, the risk of a vaccine injury is "scarier" than possibly getting Covid.
The percentage of death is much-much lower for people under 65, who get Covid.

I also heard the suicide rate is much higher than Covid deaths, which had to do with economic, and mental disorders caused by the lockdowns. Also heard reports of massive starvation in India, due to the lockdowns.

Also heard a major factor in death due to Covid is a lack of Vitamin D3. What about mandating vitamins, instead of Vaccines?


https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...challenge-of-the-lockdown/article31480844.ece

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/more-...ents-had-vitamin-d-deficiency-study-1.5162396
 
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The percentage of death is much-much lower for people under 65, who get Covid.

I also heard the suicide rate is much higher than Covid deaths, which had to do with economic, and mental disorders caused by the lockdowns. Also heard reports of massive starvation in India, due to the lockdowns.

Also heard a major factor in death due to Covid is a lack of Vitamin D3. What about mandating vitamins, instead of Vaccines?


https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...challenge-of-the-lockdown/article31480844.ece

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/more-...ents-had-vitamin-d-deficiency-study-1.5162396
Suicides are not even close to COVID deaths per month. Google it. You would think people would question such a rumor before they passed it on as true.
 

kinda

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Suicides are not even close to COVID deaths per month. Google it. You would think people would question such a rumor before they passed it on as true.

Sounds like you are an expert once again!

I apologize for replying to you, it goes against my better judgement.



"In Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from Covid in all of 2020. And women have been impacted most"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/asia/japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk/index.html
 

Genipher

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Probably 75% have adverse affects. They are mild fever after 5 to 7 hours that last through the first day. Then there is mild headache, muscle soreness (like when you have a fever) and a few other things. All of these are due to your immune system kicking in and creating the anitbodies. This is expected and is Good News, it means it worked!!!

As to allergic reactions there have only been 6 reported out of 270,000 shots as of a couple of days ago. And those were also not serious and soon resolved. At least 4 of those were known to have allergic reactions to vaccines, medications and other things.

Let's keep it real. :)
Did you read the article posted above? I wasn't talking about the more minor effects of sore arms or mild fever. 1% of people who have gotten the vaccine have had to go to the hospital after or have reported worse symptoms.
That's 3100 people (not 6!) out of 270,001.
So, yes. Keeping it real.
 
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