Concave Hollow Earth Theory

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kinda

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yeah

the reason no one tries to disprove the hollow earth nonsense, is because it is even more ludicrous than the flat earth nonsense (I would say, the attempts of trying to disprove the concave hollow earth theory is more ludicrous than the flat earth nonsense. Should I remind you of swimming airplanes and Hollywood movies as reasons why Heliocentric model believers don't think the concave hollow earth is correct?)

the effort to prove a lie, is better spent on believing the truth (Is that why you spend so much time in this thread? hmmm. -kinda)
 
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I enjoy refuting nonsense and lies
 
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I think the real question here is how long you spent whipping up those fancy graphics?

Your theory would make more sense than heliocentrism if the concave hollow earth were spinning. At least centrifugal force would hold the oceans down and be an explanation for gravity instead of magic heliocentric handwavium. But then you said the concave hollow earth is stationary?
 

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I enjoy refuting nonsense and lies
With all due respect, you didn't use the word refuting correctly. You have done nothing of the sorts.

I would say, you enjoy mocking beliefs, that you don't agree with. I have yet to see any of your posts to even attempt to disprove the concave hollow earth theory. None!
 

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I think the real question here is how long you spent whipping up those fancy graphics?

Your theory would make more sense than heliocentrism if the concave hollow earth were spinning. At least centrifugal force would hold the oceans down and be an explanation for gravity instead of magic heliocentric handwavium. But then you said the concave hollow earth is stationary?
None. All the graphics were done by other people.

You never heard of Tesla?

 
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With all due respect, you didn't use the word refuting correctly. You have done nothing of the sorts.

I would say, you enjoy mocking beliefs, that you don't agree with. I have yet to see any of your posts to even attempt to disprove the concave hollow earth theory. None!
you are like a kid playing with a light switch...on and off and on and off

you are the mocker here. your silly ad hominin attack is typical of what people who have nothing worthwhile to contribute usually resort to

cry me a river
 

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I don't know who said, they have been to space, but it wasn't me. The Concave Earth Model works, how the sun and moon rotate in the earth and the phases, can be explained, but not by me. Don't really want to dive to deep in that arena. Not sure how that information would benefit me in any way, except maybe in this discussion, so you can fault me on that.

To be fair, how many people who believe in the Heliocentric Model can explain the same question? Don't bother explaining it, it really doesn't interest me at all. I heard it before and also heard how the Concave Earth Model would work, but give me a break. Would the explanation change anyone's mind in either side of the topic.....Doubtful. If so, look it up.
You said that you were a NASA astronaut who lived and worked in space in post #29 which you wrote.
 

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you are like a kid playing with a light switch...on and off and on and off (how so?)

you are the mocker here. your silly ad hominin attack is typical of what people who have nothing worthwhile to contribute usually resort to cry me a river (You fail to see that your guilty of this, not me. If not, how so exactly? Should I mention that your questions that you asked in this thread, aren't related to the topic, and you posted animal pictures in here to mock me?)
 

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You said that you were a NASA astronaut who lived and worked in space in post #29 which you wrote.
You misunderstood and it's partly my fault for not putting in quotes in, so here are the quotes. If you ever clicked on the link below, which was below the post, you would of seen it's a direct quote. So, we are both mistaken sadly, but nice try.

"Consult the science community as you plan. As a NASA astronaut who lived and worked in space, I know Earth is not flat, that we live in a highly interrelated and interdependent biosphere, that climate change is real. People so often speculate that if world leaders could see Earth from space like astronauts and cosmonauts do, everything would be different. I believe this is true. Please consider these thoughts from men and women who are among the few who have seen our planet from space." -Ron Garan

https://medium.com/@Astro_Ron/an-open-letter-to-president-elect-trump-d68c173f7380

Do you see the link? You can click on it and confirm, that I never intended to mislead anyone into thinking I was an astronaut.
 

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You misunderstood and it's partly my fault for not putting in quotes in, so here are the quotes. If you ever clicked on the link below, which was below the post, you would of seen it's a direct quote. So, we are both mistaken sadly, but nice try.

"Consult the science community as you plan. As a NASA astronaut who lived and worked in space, I know Earth is not flat, that we live in a highly interrelated and interdependent biosphere, that climate change is real. People so often speculate that if world leaders could see Earth from space like astronauts and cosmonauts do, everything would be different. I believe this is true. Please consider these thoughts from men and women who are among the few who have seen our planet from space."

https://medium.com/@Astro_Ron/an-open-letter-to-president-elect-trump-d68c173f7380
Yeah, the quotes made the difference. Thank you for the clarification.
 

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I don't think I ever given any one a thumb's down, but this one deserved it.
Actually, I am somewhat familiar with Tesla. He was some sort of electrical prodigy at the beginning of the 20th century. He harnessed the power of Niagara Falls in the electrical generation facility he designed. The power produced was direct current. The drawback on that type is that it loses power when it as it travels through conductive wires over a distance. Edison went with alternating current (A/C) which is standard today the world over. Tesla designed many other electrical applications. Guy was a true genius.
 

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Didn't he fund Elon Musk?
Seems like a legit dude to me!

I was hoping you could destroy the concave earth theory, but it seems you got nothing.

As far as universal compression or gravity, I think if we lived inside a ball, and God was in the center of the universe, it would explain what is driving the force downwards in all directions. Also, it would explain why there is air pressure. It explains many things that make sense, but maybe this doesn't make sense to most?!?!


7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they [a]did not prevail, nor was a place found for [b]them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 12:7-12&version=NKJV

So, if the devil was cast to the earth from Heaven, wouldn't Heaven be directly above? If you believe in a gigantic earth like the heliocentric model would imply, it would take some navigation to be 10,000 light years away, to fall directly on earth, or how ever you want to say it happened.
 

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Actually, I am somewhat familiar with Tesla. He was some sort of electrical prodigy at the beginning of the 20th century. He harnessed the power of Niagara Falls in the electrical generation facility he designed. The power produced was direct current. The drawback on that type is that it loses power when it as it travels through conductive wires over a distance. Edison went with alternating current (A/C) which is standard today the world over. Tesla designed many other electrical applications. Guy was a true genius.
I think Edison was for Direct Current and Tesla was for Alternating Current, but basically what you said is mostly correct. So, anything to add to the actual topic, or just wanted to stop in for a quick joke, misquote me for being an astronaut, and Tesla discussion?
 

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I think Edison was for Direct Current and Tesla was for Alternating Current, but basically what you said is mostly correct. So, anything to add to the actual topic, or just wanted to stop in for a quick joke, misquote me for being an astronaut, and Tesla discussion?
I wasn't attempting at all to misquote you but only going on what you wrote in post #29 which seemed to be in conflict in a subsequent post you wrote. I was only seeking clarification. For my own clarification, I was wrong about Tesla, as he was, as you have accurately stated, in favor of alternating current and not Edison. I have been Niagara Falls and that is a most awesome place. Thought that Elon Musk joke was funny though.
 

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I wasn't attempting at all to misquote you but only going on what you wrote in post #29 which seemed to be in conflict in a subsequent post you wrote. I was only seeking clarification. For my own clarification, I was wrong about Tesla, as he was, as you have accurately stated, in favor of alternating current and not Edison. I have been Niagara Falls and that is a most awesome place. Thought that Elon Musk joke was funny though.
Maybe you can start a Elon Musk joke thread or Niagara Falls thread? Sorry I'm completely disappointed in the replies that I received so far. I might be better off just finding old threads on the net, or videos that question the Concave Hollow Earth Theory.

Sorry for wasting people's time here, if every one thinks this theory is stupid, and doesn't deserve to be taken serious, the point has been made. Not a big deal, can find other ways to examine this theory.
 
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Maybe you can start a Elon Musk joke thread or Niagara Falls thread? Sorry I'm completely disappointed in the replies that I received so far. I might be better off just finding old threads on the net, or videos that question the Concave Hollow Earth Theory.

Sorry for wasting people's time here, if every one thinks this theory is stupid, and doesn't deserve to be taken serious, the point has been made. Not a big deal, can find other ways to examine this theory.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood your intentions. I thought this was more a humorous attempt to poke flat earthers in the eye. If not, well... the concept is interesting.

I mentioned in another thread just a moment ago (talking about this concave earth thread) that as a hobby game programmer I've been considering making a hollow Earth/Agartha themed video game.

So I will make a couple serious comments here. The first is that you really cannot trust your eyes, not on a globe Earth, not on a flat earth, not on... a concave hollow Earth. Why not? A number of reasons. Gas and liquid are both considered "fluid media" so refraction of light is a factor no matter what and it's heightened over distance. Then the atmosphere has varying density layers, with greater atmospheric density at sea level and thinner air higher up. As well, there can be greater air humidity above the surface of a body of water than higher above it. These factors affect how far light can propagate through the air in these layers. Flat earthers have done a lot of vision perspective videos that relate to these topics. And the human eye does not have an infinite view distance.

^ I say all that because there are actually situations where the Earth CAN APPEAR to be slightly concave. I came across this a week ago in a video, I will have to try to remember where I heard it.

But to illustrate these things, the flat earth movement was really bolstered by the release of the Nikon P900 camera with 80x digital zoom. For a long time, we were told that ships disappearing over the horizon were going beyond the curve. NOT SO. They were passing beyond a visible horizon whose distance was dictated by a variety of factors affecting range of visibility. You can literally watch a ship "sail over the horizon" but then use the Nikon P900's digital zoom to pull it right back into view. This phenomenon made people realize the establishment lied about ships going over a physical horizon.
 

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I'm sorry if I misunderstood your intentions. I thought this was more a humorous attempt to poke flat earthers in the eye. If not, well... the concept is interesting.

I mentioned in another thread just a moment ago (talking about this concave earth thread) that as a hobby game programmer I've been considering making a hollow Earth/Agartha themed video game.

So I will make a couple serious comments here. The first is that you really cannot trust your eyes, not on a globe Earth, not on a flat earth, not on... a concave hollow Earth. Why not? A number of reasons. Gas and liquid are both considered "fluid media" so refraction of light is a factor no matter what and it's heightened over distance. Then the atmosphere has varying density layers, with greater atmospheric density at sea level and thinner air higher up. As well, there can be greater air humidity above the surface of a body of water than higher above it. These factors affect how far light can propagate through the air in these layers. Flat earthers have done a lot of vision perspective videos that relate to these topics. And the human eye does not have an infinite view distance.

^ I say all that because there are actually situations where the Earth CAN APPEAR to be slightly concave. I came across this a week ago in a video, I will have to try to remember where I heard it.

But to illustrate these things, the flat earth movement was really bolstered by the release of the Nikon P900 camera with 80x digital zoom. For a long time, we were told that ships disappearing over the horizon were going beyond the curve. NOT SO. They were passing beyond a visible horizon whose distance was dictated by a variety of factors affecting range of visibility. You can literally watch a ship "sail over the horizon" but then use the Nikon P900's digital zoom to pull it right back into view. This phenomenon made people realize the establishment lied about ships going over a physical horizon.

I understand your point, but I believe the concave earth theory more than answers this.







https://lonestar1776.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/concave-earth-for-dummies/