Dr. Fiona Hill refutes GOP conspiracy theories.

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azamzimtoti

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Dr. Hill runs rings round GOP at impeachment hearing:




This is the caliber of people we need running for government office.
 

Ghoti2

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I will say, she DID talk just about non-stop. (It might help her get another job.)
 

PennEd

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Dr. Hill runs rings round GOP at impeachment hearing:




This is the caliber of people we need running for government office.
What a Joke!

SHE, and Obama withheld funds to Ukraine, and military aid, resulting in the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea, beginnings of invasion in the rest of Ukraine, and the murder of almost 300 people by a Russian missile hitting a plane over Ukraine.

So she withheld aid Trump GAVE the aid to Ukraine, and HE'S under investigation?! I know there are tons of what Lenin termed "useful idiots" out there, but how people can remain so willfully ignorant is beyond me.
 

Nehemiah6

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So she withheld aid Trump GAVE the aid to Ukraine, and HE'S under investigation?! I know there are tons of what Lenin termed "useful idiots" out there, but how people can remain so willfully ignorant is beyond me.
What really bothers me about this whole three-ring-circus is that the Republicans in Congress and the Senate watch this nonsense day after day and do absolutely nothing about it.

That Mueller Witch Hunt should have been stopped before it began and now this Schiff Witch Hunt should have been stopped in its tracks. Surely there are plenty of laws which do not allow politicians to abuse their position and their power in this manner. WHY IS NO ONE BEING PROSECUTED AND LOCKED UP -- starting with Obama and Clinton, and going all the way down to Schiff and his goons????
 

Ghoti2

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The saddest thing about all this is that, if they could be honest with themselves, the Dems would have to say, "Of course Trump has done nothing illegal, we just want a Democrat in office, and this is the only way we can do it. We sure can't defeat him legally and honestly at the polls." (The American way, BTW.)
 

azamzimtoti

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"A Giuliani associate is reportedly willing to tell Congress that Devin Nunes met with Ukrainians to get dirt on Biden and Democrats"

"Parnas' attorney, Joseph Bondy, told the network that his client learned from the ex-Ukrainian official Viktor Shokin that Nunes met with Shokin in Vienna last December"

Full article.

https://www.businessinsider.com/lev-parnas-devin-nunes-victor-shokin-ukraine-biden-2019-11

No wonder he was sweating so much during the impeachment hearings.
 

PennEd

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"A Giuliani associate is reportedly willing to tell Congress that Devin Nunes met with Ukrainians to get dirt on Biden and Democrats""Parnas' attorney, Joseph Bondy, told the network that his client learned from the ex-Ukrainian official Viktor Shokin that Nunes met with Shokin in Vienna last December"Full article.https://www.businessinsider.com/lev-parnas-devin-nunes-victor-shokin-ukraine-biden-2019-11No wonder he was sweating so much during the impeachment hearings.
One has to be willingly ignorant to believe the leftist media:

Exclusive — Devin Nunes to Sue CNN, Daily Beast over Fake News Attacks14,225
Win McNamee/Getty ImagesMATTHEW BOYLE22 Nov 2019Washington, D.C.9,0675:08House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence ranking member Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) intends to file lawsuits against both CNN and the Daily Beast over fake hit pieces the outlets have published about him in recent days, Breitbart News has learned exclusively.
Two pieces recently published in both outlets–one from Daily Beast earlier this week, and one from CNN published late Friday–alleged that the Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas, who is now indicted on unrelated charges, helped Nunes with a variety of matters when digging into Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election on behalf of Democrats.

The Daily Beast story, from Betsy Swan (formerly Woodruff), alleges that Parnas helped Nunes set up a variety of meetings on Ukraine matters. The CNN story, from Vicky Ward, goes even further, alleging that Nunes arranged a secret trip to Vienna and met there with Victor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor that former Vice President Joe Biden pushed to have fired when Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, the natural gas company paying Biden’s son Hunter Biden $83,000 per month. It is unclear at this time how much of these reports are blatantly false, but most of each of them appear to be inaccurate, according to sources familiar with the matter.

As such, Nunes is planning to sue both the Daily Beast and CNN over each story.
“These demonstrably false and scandalous stories published by the Daily Beast and CNN are the perfect example of defamation and reckless disregard for the truth,” Nunes told Breitbart News late Friday night. “Some political operative offered these fake stories to at least five different media outlets before finding someone irresponsible enough to publish them. I look forward to prosecuting these cases, including the media outlets, as well as the sources of their fake stories, to the fullest extent of the law. I intend to hold the Daily Beast and CNN accountable for their actions. They will find themselves in court soon after Thanksgiving.”
Nunes has had rocky relationships with both establishment media outlets, and he regularly refuses to work with–or have his office cooperate with–any outlet that engages in deliberate printing of inaccurate and fake information, as CNN and the Daily Beast regularly do.
For instance, Nunes in this 2018 video, called CNN’s Manu Raju’s outlet the “leading Democratic Party propaganda” outlet:



CNN tries to question Rep. @DevinNunes (R-CA) who responds in the best possible manner.

Just say no to CNN.





CNN refused, then, to publish a Nunes quote about CNN’s engagement in printing inaccurate information:



Also when asked my office gave them this quote...”CNN’s slavish adherence to the Democrats’ comical talking points is an amazing sight to behold.”.....Guess what? They refused to run the statement...This is another great example of “Fake and fraudulent news” https://twitter.com/realsaavedra/status/1021610785397596160 …



Just say no to CNN.



The CNN piece from Ward interestingly lays out how Nunes refuses to interact with the outlet:​
Over the past two weeks, CNN approached Nunes on two occasions and reached out to his communications staff to get comment for this story. In the Capitol on Nov. 14, as CNN began to ask a question about the trip to Vienna, Nunes interjected and said, “I don’t talk to you in this lifetime or the next lifetime.”
“At any time,” Nunes added. “On any question.”
Asked again on Thursday about his travel to Vienna and his interactions with Shokin and Parnas, Nunes gave a similar response. “To be perfectly clear, I don’t acknowledge any questions from you in this lifetime or the next lifetime,” Nunes said while leaving the impeachment hearing. “I don’t acknowledge any question from you ever.”​
The Daily Beast has similarly had a history of printing inaccurate information about Nunes, according to multiple reports detailing how the outlet has printed false and misleading stories about him.
While media outlets like CNN and the Daily Beast are willingly printing this information and these allegations against people like Nunes, fed to them by Parnas’ legal team, it appears to be part of a broader strategy by Parnas and his legal team to try to get out of the trouble he faces.

The New York Daily News reported on Parnas attempting to curry favor with authorities in a story Friday morning:
One of the Florida businessmen who worked with Rudy Giuliani on his hunt for Ukrainian dirt on Democrats has turned over a trove of “hard evidence” to impeachment investigators — including photos and videos, one of his lawyers said Friday.
Lev Parnas, who was criminally charged last month in a sweeping campaign finance scheme that overlaps with the House impeachment inquiry, had so much evidence it had to be sent to House probers in several batches, the attorney, Joseph Bondy, told the Daily News.
Bondy said he has also tried to schedule a time for Parnas to testify under oath before the House Intelligence Committee about the “first-hand knowledge” he says his client has about President Trump’s bid to pressure Ukraine into investigating Joe Biden’s family and other Democrats before the 2020 election.​
It remains to be seen what will happen next, and how Nunes’s lawsuit will come together. But Nunes is one of President Donald Trump’s most ardent defenders, and he held the line for the last month plus among Republicans during the Democrats’ “impeachment inquiry.” The House Intelligence Committee, which is now chaired by Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) since Democrats took the majority in the midterm elections, just held seven total public impeachment hearings over the past two weeks.
 

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The saddest thing about all this is that, if they could be honest with themselves, the Dems would have to say, "Of course Trump has done nothing illegal, we just want a Democrat in office, and this is the only way we can do it. We sure can't defeat him legally and honestly at the polls." (The American way, BTW.)
He could be gone in a year. Are they so lacking that they don't believe they can win? All the polls have Biden beating him they say. Why not save time and money and wait a year?
 

Ghoti2

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He could be gone in a year. Are they so lacking that they don't believe they can win? All the polls have Biden beating him they say. Why not save time and money and wait a year?
Because they remember how wrong the polls were in 2016.
 

Ghoti2

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True enough. They had an utter meltdown. If they lose again I cannot imagine what they will do.
Oh, yeah! Considering some of the almost unbelievable destitution that was on display following the 2016 election, I shudder to even try to imagine their screaming reactions at yet another loss.
 

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What a Joke!

SHE, and Obama withheld funds to Ukraine, and military aid, resulting in the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea, beginnings of invasion in the rest of Ukraine, and the murder of almost 300 people by a Russian missile hitting a plane over Ukraine.

So she withheld aid Trump GAVE the aid to Ukraine, and HE'S under investigation?! I know there are tons of what Lenin termed "useful idiots" out there, but how people can remain so willfully ignorant is beyond me.
P.T. Barn "ism"

A sucka born every minute.....for the shills that believe anything that comes out of a Democrats mouth and or those trying to impeach Trump......I suggest buying the Brooklyn Bridge.
 

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P.T. Barn "ism"

A sucka born every minute.....for the shills that believe anything that comes out of a Democrats mouth and or those trying to impeach Trump......I suggest buying the Brooklyn Bridge.
Oh it is a circus alright... a nice distraction while the real damage continues to be done behind the scenes.

Liberty is being assaulted and first amendment rights are slowly being chipped away and this is my worry because we know that when the USA is no longer a free society the only thing that awaits is the slave state conceived and implemented while the populace is distracted.
 

EleventhHour

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What a Joke!

SHE, and Obama withheld funds to Ukraine, and military aid, resulting in the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea, beginnings of invasion in the rest of Ukraine, and the murder of almost 300 people by a Russian missile hitting a plane over Ukraine.

So she withheld aid Trump GAVE the aid to Ukraine, and HE'S under investigation?! I know there are tons of what Lenin termed "useful idiots" out there, but how people can remain so willfully ignorant is beyond me.
I am no fan of Obama, what a travesty he was....but she was a foreign affairs specialist adviser to both Bush and Obama, can you provide evidence that she withheld funds, because I am pretty sure as an adviser she does not hold the purse strings.
 

PennEd

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I am no fan of Obama, what a travesty he was....but she was a foreign affairs specialist adviser to both Bush and Obama, can you provide evidence that she withheld funds, because I am pretty sure as an adviser she does not hold the purse strings.
Obviously she is not responsible for releasing, or not releasing funds. But it WAS her opinion at that time that the funds should NOT be released, and it was policy. She said the other day she "changed her mind", conveniently after Trump took office. The funds were NOT released under the Obama admin. she AGREED that they should not be released.

We KNOW that without the necessary military funding, and the signaling to Russia that the U.S. would not support Ukraine, that Ukraine was invaded, Crimea annexed, and a civilian plane was shot down by the Russians over Ukraine, murdering almost 300 people.