Geo-Engineering (Weather Modification)

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could this be the reason we ONLY buy Pacific (Alaskan, Canadian, northern Pacific) wild salmon?

Never, ever Atlantic?

The Pacific fish may not be completely without harm, but it sure seems to beat the alternative.
Poor Atlantic Ocean...waste dump. :(
 

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Interesting documentary on this subject -
[video=youtube;jf0khstYDLA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA[/video]
 
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it would be nice to add some credible testimonials to this thread on chemtrails, haarp, etc but i don't have the time, energy or inclination right now i hope somebody else follows through. public awareness is the first critical step always. much thanks to the watchmen who are standing on the watchtowers sounding the trumpet. if the alarm isn't sounded who will take warning and be prepared. i pray that we are all found worthy to escape the coming wrath and that we are not found sleeping but wide awake as Jesus said we should be doing the jobs that He gave us to do
 

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it would be nice to add some credible testimonials to this thread on chemtrails, haarp, etc but i don't have the time, energy or inclination right now i hope somebody else follows through. public awareness is the first critical step always. much thanks to the watchmen who are standing on the watchtowers sounding the trumpet. if the alarm isn't sounded who will take warning and be prepared. i pray that we are all found worthy to escape the coming wrath and that we are not found sleeping but wide awake as Jesus said we should be doing the jobs that He gave us to do
i'll do it.....a.s.a.p, Lord willing.

it's not hard to find.
i have copies of the patents for the chemtrail gadgets from the 40's.
they've been spraying the globe since 1998.



these trail are EITHER contrails, which means drunk pilots flying that way, all in the same few hours

OR

they are CHEMTRAILS.
 
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it would be nice to add some credible testimonials to this thread on chemtrails, haarp, etc but i don't have the time, energy or inclination right now i hope somebody else follows through. public awareness is the first critical step always. much thanks to the watchmen who are standing on the watchtowers sounding the trumpet. if the alarm isn't sounded who will take warning and be prepared. i pray that we are all found worthy to escape the coming wrath and that we are not found sleeping but wide awake as Jesus said we should be doing the jobs that He gave us to do
Is being aware and watching part of salvation? Or does spreading the gospel, bringing in the sheep, finishing the work have far more to do with serving God than searching out things to fear? Will being aware of everything evil that's soon to come help us change anything? Only God will accomplish that end when He's good and ready. What makes you people think those that belong to Him aren't aware of what's to come? Scriptures tell us how bad things are going to get before the Lord returns. But I hardly think we are to obsess over things we cannot change. God will in His own good time put all these things under His feet.
 

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Is being aware and watching part of salvation? Or does spreading the gospel, bringing in the sheep, finishing the work have far more to do with serving God than searching out things to fear? Will being aware of everything evil that's soon to come help us change anything? Only God will accomplish that end when He's good and ready. What makes you people think those that belong to Him aren't aware of what's to come? Scriptures tell us how bad things are going to get before the Lord returns. But I hardly think we are to obsess over things we cannot change. God will in His own good time put all these things under His feet.
how are you making out evangelizing in your sphere?

"spreading the gospel, bringing in the sheep, finishing the work"

where do you come across the lost who are groping desperately for God?

you don't know what i'm talking about...do you.
 
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how are you making out evangelizing in your sphere?

"spreading the gospel, bringing in the sheep, finishing the work"

where do you come across the lost who are groping desperately for God?

you don't know what i'm talking about...do you.
How am I making evangelizing my sphere? Huh? Maybe you should think about making it your sphere. And unfortunately, I do know exactly what you're talking about.
 
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these trail are EITHER contrails, which means drunk pilots flying that way, all in the same few hours
contrails are not solid objects...they get blown by the wind...which can cause them to curve... furthermore planes tend to follow standardized flight paths...meaning different planes often will make their turns in the same place...which is reflected in the contrails they leave behind...
 

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How am I making evangelizing my sphere? Huh? Maybe you should think about making it your sphere. And unfortunately, I do know exactly what you're talking about.
lol....no it looks as though you don't.
at all.
that's okay.

John 4:35
Don't you have a saying, 'It's still four months until harvest'? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest.
 

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contrails are not solid objects...they get blown by the wind...which can cause them to curve... furthermore planes tend to follow standardized flight paths...meaning different planes often will make their turns in the same place...which is reflected in the contrails they leave behind...
if you say so rachel:)

the kiddie section at NASA says the same thing:)





Contrail Watching for Kids

Science Project: Contrail Watching for Kids

Purpose: Contrails are long clouds made by high-flying aircraft. Because kids are so good at watching clouds, they can be easily taught to identify contrails.

Age Range: 6 – 10
Time Required: Young children can observe and report on contrails in only a few minutes a day.



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anyways.......:rolleyes:


"There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."

former U.S. Defense Secretary William Cohen
Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, Athens, Ga., 1997








Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally… It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog, and storms on earth or to modify space weather, … and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of technologies which can provide substantial increase in US, or degraded capability in an adversary, to achieve global awareness, reach, and power.
- Air University of the US Air Force, AF 2025 Final Report

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Weather as a Force Multiplier:
Owning the Weather in 2025
http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf

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AF2025 v3c15-7 | Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning ...
www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/v3c15/v3c15-7.htm‎
AF2025 Final Report: Vol 3; (Bibliography) Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025. ... Appleman, Herbert S. An Introduction to Weather-modification. ... Air University Press, December 1993. ... Meyer, William B. "The Life and Times of US Weather: What Can We Do ... Air Force Materiel Command, 1992.
AF2025 v3c15-7 | Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning... | (Bibliography)

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The Weather Changers
Daniel Stephen Halacy

References from web pages

AF2025 v3c15-7 | Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning ...
Halacy, Daniel S. The Weather Changers. New York: Harper & Row, 1968. Hall, J. Storrs. "Overview of Nanotechnology" Adapted from papers by Ralph C. Merkle ...
AF2025 v3c15-7 | Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning... | (Bibliography)

Weather As A Weapon:
But so did talk of atom bombs before 1945. [52]. So wrote author Daniel S. Halacy Jr., in his book, The Weather Changers, published in 1968. ...
Weather As A Weapon:

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Weather and Climate Modification Problems and Prospects: Final Report of the ... - Google Books

Weather and Climate Modification Problems and Prospects: Final Report of the Panel on Weather and Climate Modification, Volumes 1-2

1966

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Cloud modifications during the cold months

Mikhail Petrovich Leonov, Georgiĭ Ivanovich Perelet

Published for the U.S. Dept. of the Interior, Bureau of Reclamation and the National Science Foundation, Washington, D.C., by the Indian National Scientific Documentation Centre, 1976 - Science - 198 pages

Cloud modifications during the cold months - Mikhail Petrovich Leonov, Georgi- Ivanovich Perelet - Google Books

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Ninth Conference on Weather Modification, May 21-23, 1984, Park City, Utah: Extended Abstracts

American Meteorological Society, 1984 - Weather control - 120 pages

Ninth Conference on Weather Modification, May 21-23, 1984, Park City, Utah ... - Google Books



etc etc

suggestion: search PATENTS.

bye then
 

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Geoengineering the climate: science, governance and uncertainty
01 September 2009

The Royal Society has published the findings of a major study into geoengineering the climate.
The study, chaired by Professor John Shepherd FRS, was researched and written over a period of twelve months by twelve leading academics representing science, economics, law and social science.

Man-made climate change is happening and its impacts and costs will be large, serious and unevenly spread. The impacts may be reduced by adaptation and moderated by mitigation, especially by reducing emissions of greenhouse gases. However, global efforts to reduce emissions have not yet been sufficiently successful to provide confidence that the reductions needed to avoid dangerous climate change will be achieved. This has led to growing interest in geoengineering, defined here as the deliberate large-scale manipulation of the planetary environment to counteract anthropogenic climate change.

However, despite this interest, there has been a lack of accessible, high quality information on the proposed geoengineering techniques which remain unproven and potentially dangerous. This study provides a detailed assessment of the various methods and considers the potential efficiency and unintended consequences they may pose. It divides geoengineering methods into two basic categories:

Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) techniques, which remove CO2 from the atmosphere. As they address the root cause of climate change, rising CO2 concentrations, they have relatively low uncertainties and risks. However, these techniques work slowly to reduce global temperatures.

Solar Radiation Management (SRM) techniques, which reflect a small percentage of the sun's light and heat back into space. These methods act quickly, and so may represent the only way to lower global temperatures quickly in the event of a climate crisis. However, they only reduce some, but not all, effects of climate change, while possibly creating other problems . They also do not affect CO2 levels and therefore fail to address the wider effects of rising CO2, including ocean acidification.

The report recommends:

Parties to the UNFCCC should make increased efforts towards mitigating and adapting to climate change and in particular to agreeing to global emissions reductions of at least 50% on 1990 levels by 2050 and more thereafter;

CDR and SRM geoengineering methods should only be considered as part of a wider package of options for addressing climate change. CDR methods should be regarded as preferable to SRM methods.

Relevant UK government departments, in association with the UK Research Councils, should together fund a 10 year geoengineering research programme at a level of the order of £10M per annum.

The Royal Society, in collaboration with international science partners, should develop a code of practice for geoengineering research and provide recommendations to the international scientific community for a voluntary research governance framework.

The Royal Society issued a call for submissions and convened a small ethics workshop as part of the evidence gathering process. More information is available in the main report.

Read the related press release here.

UPDATED March 2010 - The Natural Environment Research Council (NERC) is carrying out a public dialogue on geoengineering to assess public opinion on how future research relating to the subject should be directed, conducted and communicated. If you would like to take part in the dialogue the following link will take you to an online survey about geoengineering. Dialogue by Design | Specialists in public engagement and online consultation | Homepage

Related Royal Society publications:

Towards a low carbon future: 29 Jun 2009
Inter-Academy Panel statement on Ocean Acidification: 1 Jun 2009
Ground-level ozone in the 21st century: future trends, impacts and policy implications: 6 Oct 2008
Sustainable biofuels: prospects and challenges:14 Jan 2008

Media coverage of the report includes:

The Independent (article)
The Independent (editorial)
The Times
The Sunday Times
The Financial Times (Clive Cookson)
The Financial Times (Fiona Harvey)
The Guardian
Nature
New Scientist
BBC news
20:20 Science
Bloomberg

Geoengineering the climate: science, governance and uncertainty | Royal Society

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"Man-made climate change":rolleyes:







September 3, 1991
In the 1970s, the Club of Rome launched the book "The Limits to Growth". Essential reading for all those concerned about the future of the planet, the book was translated into 37 languages. Now, President Emeritus Alexander King and Secretary General Bertrand Schneider review global problems 20 years on, offering both a warning and an approach to a possible solution to world problems. Topics covered by this book include the need for the world to convert from a military to a civil economy, the recognition of the disastrous short-term effects of exploitation by First World countries of Third World poverty and need, and the containment of global warming: the need to reduce global emissions of carbon dioxide, to encourage reforestation, to conserve traditional forms of energy and develop alternatives....


"The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor. Some states have striven to overcome domestic failure and internal contradictions by blaming external enemies. The ploy of finding a scapegoat is as old as mankind itself - when things become too difficult at home, divert attention to adventure abroad. Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one, or else one invented for the purpose. With the disappearance of the traditional enemy, the temptation is to use religious or ethnic minorities as scapegoats, especially those whose differences from the majority are disturbing."[8] "Every state has been so used to classifying its neighbours as friend or foe, that the sudden absence of traditional adversaries has left governments and public opinion with a great void to fill. New enemies have to be identified, new strategies imagined, and new weapons devised."[8] "In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill. In their totality and their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together. But in designating these dangers as the enemy, we fall into the trap, which we have already warned readers about, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention in natural processes, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself." - p.115
 

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FREEMASONS AND THE ROYAL SOCIETY

Alphabetical List of Fellows ofthe Royal Society who were Freemasons


Thisis an attempt to list Fellows ofthe Royal Society ("FRS") who were freemasons. It has been compiled, on behalf of the Library and Museum ofFreemasonry, by Bruce Hogg, assisted by Diane Clements. The Royal Society's website includes two lists ofFellows, from A-J and K-2, with approximately 8000 names recorded for the period 1660-2007. There is no comparable listing of freemasons and their details have been drawn from a variety ofsources as described below. This is unlikely to be a complete list ofthe freemasons who were FRS and any additions and corrections are welcomed and will be added to future updates ofthis list. Please email with details ofthese to the Library and Museum at libmusCiilfreemasOIlry.london.mnscum

http://freemasonry.lmfm.net/os/wp-content/resources/frs_freemasons_complete_jan2010.pdf



scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll...yawn



OH THESE GUYS AGAIN!

tsk.....





Freemasons have always been in the forefront of the scientific community; from the founding of the British Royal Society to today’s NASA programme in the United States.

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it's just a gentlemen's club.
no biggie.

G.A.O.T.U.
 

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Chemtrails. The Realities of Geoengineering and Weather Modification

By James F. Tracy
Global Research, November 08, 2012

Theme: Environment, Science and Medicine

Over the past decade evidence has increasingly emerged indicating how geoengineering and weather modification programs designed to inflict major impacts on the atmosphere and environment are fully operational.

Despite such developments the CO2-specific anthropogenic theory of global warming touted by foundation-funded environmental groups and public relations dominates much of popular discourse and the prevailing worldview of intellectuals.

By drawing attention away from actually existing efforts of atmospheric experimentation and manipulation, such coordinated efforts are complicit in the impending environmental catastrophe they profess to be rallying against. The repeated claim of CO2-driven climate change without acknowledgment of geoengineering-related environmental intervention is a severe perversion of both meaningful scientific inquiry and public opinion with overwhelming implications for all life on earth.



“While scientists continue research into any global climatic effects of greenhouse gases, we ought to study ways to offset any possible ill effects. Injecting sunlight-scattering particles into the stratosphere appears to be a promising approach. Why not do that?”—Edward Teller[1]

“To accept opinions in their terms is to gain the good solid feeling of being correct without having to think. “—C. Wright Mills[2]



For anyone who looks up in the sky every so often while fostering some recollection of what a sunny day used to resemble, the reality of geoengineering—what are often referred to as “chemtrails”—can no longer be easily dismissed. For over a decade military and private jet aircraft have been spraying our skies with what numerous independent researchers, journalists, and activists observe to be an admixture of aluminum, barium, strontium, and other dangerous heavy metals. Such substances distributed into the atmosphere as microscopic subparticulates eventually descend to earth where they are breathed by living things and absorbed by the soil and plant life.

“A glimpse into new death technologies” intended to modify weather and the environment “is in legislation introduced by Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich,” investigative writer Amy Worthington wrote almost a decade ago. Kucinich’s unsuccessful Space Preservation Act of 2001 was intended to ban space deployment of:

*electronic, psychotronic and information weaponry
*high altitude ultra low frequency weapons
*plasma, electromagnetic, sonic and ultrasonic weapons
*laser weapons
*strategic, theater, tactical or extraterrestrial weapons
*chemical biological, environmental climate or tectonic weapons
*chemtrails (this term was stricken from a later version, suggesting duress)

In their quest to remain top dog in the kill chain, the purveyors of perpetual war have deliberately dimmed earth’s life-giving sunlight, and reduced atmospheric visibility with lung-clogging particulates and polymers. This ecological terrorism has severely compromised public health, according to thousands of testimonials.[3]

A recently discovered NASA document from 1966 indicates that weather modification efforts have been underway since the 1940s. “There is … great motivation to develop effective countermeasures against the destructive measures of weather,”

the paper observes, and,

"conversely, enhance the beneficial aspects. The financial and other benefits to human welfare of being able to modify weather to augment water supplies, reduce lightening, suppress hail, mitigate tornados, and inhibit the full development of hurricanes would be very great."[4]

According to the report, in 1964 the National Science Foundation formed a Special Commission on Weather Modification.

Thereafter, weather weapons in the form of cloud seeding were used to flood North Vietnamese supply lines during the Vietnam War.[5]

More recent documentation points to private and government bodies’ active pursuit of weather modification, including the US Department of Homeland Security’s Hurricane Aerosol and Microphysics Program.[6] And in mid-2012 scientists proposed a $5 billion geoengineering plan to potentially unleash one million tons of particulates in the upper atmosphere each year to “cut world greenhouse gas emissions.”[7]

...Not until 2010, when I happened across the documentary What in the World Are They Spraying? (WITWATS) did I become more fully convinced that coordinated geoengineering programs not only exist, but that they are far-reaching in scope and have major implications for life on earth. Perhaps alongside the alleged scourge of CO2-induced global warming, geoengineering programs that are purportedly in place to “curb” such processes actually pose the greatest threat to humanity and the environment. Like Monsanto, which seeks to control all facets of agriculture and thus our physiological makeup, the US military’s self-admitted objective is to “control the weather” through atmospheric manipulation by 2025.[9]...

Chemtrails. The Realities of Geoengineering and Weather Modification | Global Research
 

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Scratching the veneer of some of the major climate change movers and shakers one finds a very well-financed assemblage of entities with major philanthropic foundation ties. Indeed, the Rockefeller Foundations alone are major players behind the anthropogenic global warming “activism” and propaganda. For example, in 2009 the Rockefeller Family Foundation gave $3,500,000 to Grace Communications Fund, an organization that “builds partnerships and develops innovative media strategies that increase public awareness of the relationships among food, water, and energy systems.” Also in 2009 Rockefeller gave $775,000 to the Natural Resource Defense Council, whose foremost agenda is “curbing global warming” and “creating a clean energy future.” Another $650,000 was channeled to the World Wildlife Federation, $350,000 to the Center for Climate Strategies, and $200,000 to the Sierra Club.[14]

As bizarre as it may seem, such organizations are funded to such a degree because of their express intent on austerity and even depopulation programs. Toward this end they speak in one powerful voice that climate change is caused by the CO2-specific consumptive practices of human beings. Curiously, however, these extremely well-funded groups completely ignore actually existing or impending environmental upheavals brought about by geoengineering, dangerously designed nuclear power plants, the wanton disbursal of depleted uranium, and the proliferation of genetically modified organisms throughout the food supply.

Chemtrails. The Realities of Geoengineering and Weather Modification | Global Research

fascinating expose.
usual suspects.
 

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Interesting documentary on this subject -
[video=youtube;jf0khstYDLA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA[/video]
BUMP.
there is a part II as well, called (i think) WHY in the World are They Spraying?
 

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[video=youtube;TGsi7JaV6gs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGsi7JaV6gs[/video]

Why in the World are They Spraying Full Length Documentary HD

Part II to previously posted.
 

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I believe i may of shared this before.

An old man last year said that he thought helicopters were spraying the crop with something.

This man is not a conspiracy theorist, no just an old man who has grown his own food many years and knows something is a miss.
 
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[video=youtube;TGsi7JaV6gs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGsi7JaV6gs[/video]

Why in the World are They Spraying Full Length Documentary HD

Part II to previously posted.

War.
Political power.
Population control. :(

MONEY.


I admit I got a little depressed.
Then I remembered Who is Sovereign, and who is NOT.
 

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War.
Political power.
Population control. :(

MONEY.


I admit I got a little depressed.
Then I remembered Who is Sovereign, and who is NOT.
it kinda makes the radical nature of our depravity a little sharper.
Situation Critical - The Son of God must leave His eternal Glory and come to earth to pay for our sin.