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how could they have recorded the sea level 10000 years ago when most of it was frozen.
Are you kidding? Sea level leaves a mark. You can see the various sea levels with satellite views. You can also see man made structures that are below the ocean now.

So let's consider the whole climate Change theory

1. Melting glaciers due to the industrial revolution burning fossil fuel will drown the coastline. In the last 120 years since 1900 sea level has risen 5 inches, compared to the roughly 80 feet it had risen in the ten thousand years prior to 1900.

2. Climate activists argue that we need to immediately do something about this crisis which will cost us $5 trillion at the least. It involves radically changing everything about our current lifestyle. And who is telling us we need to spend all this money? A teenager from Europe, a drama queen from the Bronx, Hollywood elites flying around in private airplanes, and the King of England, the richest man on the planet.

3. What facts do they have to support this? Climate models that have been proven to be wrong.
 
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Are you kidding? Sea level leaves a mark. You can see the various sea levels with satellite views. You can also see man made structures that are below the ocean now.

So let's consider the whole climate Change theory

1. Melting glaciers due to the industrial revolution burning fossil fuel will drown the coastline. In the last 120 years since 1900 sea level has risen 5 inches, compared to the roughly 80 feet it had risen in the ten thousand years prior to 1900.

2. Climate activists argue that we need to immediately do something about this crisis which will cost us $5 trillion at the least. It involves radically changing everything about our current lifestyle. And who is telling us we need to spend all this money? A teenager from Europe, a drama queen from the Bronx, Hollywood elites flying around in private airplanes, and the King of England, the richest man on the planet.

3. What facts do they have to support this? Climate models that have been proven to be wrong.
lol talk about not seeing a picture.

Ok hopefully this will work how can an ocean that is frozen rise in sea level when it thors.

Take for instance a glass of water.

If you fill a glass and freeze it, when it melts does it rise
 

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lol talk about not seeing a picture.

Ok hopefully this will work how can an ocean that is frozen rise in sea level when it thors.

Take for instance a glass of water.

If you fill a glass and freeze it, when it melts does it rise
If the ice is not in the water when it melts and runs into the water it rises. Glaciers by definition are on land. If it is in the water like you are describing we call it an iceberg.
 
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If the ice is not in the water when it melts and runs into the water it rises. Glaciers by definition are on land. If it is in the water like you are describing we call it an iceberg.
lol he said two thirds of the worlds ice has been lost since 10000 years ago.

Did he say that was service ice above sea level everywhere.
 

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lol he said two thirds of the worlds ice has been lost since 10000 years ago.

Did he say that was service ice above sea level everywhere.
Yes, he said that 32% of the land was covered in ice and now it is 10%
 
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Yes, he said that 32% of the land was covered in ice and now it is 10%
no he said ice covered 32 % of the total aera of the planet, he says this in the first 30 seconds of the video, which also means the existing water

Check again

 

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no he said ice covered 32 % of the total aera of the planet, he says this in the first 30 seconds of the video, which also means the existing water

Check again

So does that mean it was evenly distributed between land and sea in which case it was also 32% of land, or does that mean it was primarily land in which case it was more than 32% or does that mean it was primarily sea in which case it was less than 32%. Once again, vague, meaningless, and this is the person you are putting forth as the authoritative voice of climate change?

Any real scientist who is discussing Climate change and sea level rise as an inherent risk would be focused on glaciers and not sea ice. They would not be vague about that.
 
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So does that mean it was evenly distributed between land and sea in which case it was also 32% of land, or does that mean it was primarily land in which case it was more than 32% or does that mean it was primarily sea in which case it was less than 32%. Once again, vague, meaningless, and this is the person you are putting forth as the authoritative voice of climate change?

Any real scientist who is discussing Climate change and sea level rise as an inherent risk would be focused on glaciers and not sea ice. They would not be vague about that.
well 32 percent of the earth being covered by ice would include land and sea.

What would happen is half an ocean would freeze whilst the other half of the ocean would drop it's rain onto it.
 
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So does that mean it was evenly distributed between land and sea in which case it was also 32% of land, or does that mean it was primarily land in which case it was more than 32% or does that mean it was primarily sea in which case it was less than 32%. Once again, vague, meaningless, and this is the person you are putting forth as the authoritative voice of climate change?

Any real scientist who is discussing Climate change and sea level rise as an inherent risk would be focused on glaciers and not sea ice. They would not be vague about that.
The reason why the earth slowing down is so important, is because of this. It also includes a well detailed explanation of water balance and shifting it's relocation.





 

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The reason why the earth slowing down is so important, is because of this. It also includes a well detailed explanation of water balance and shifting it's relocation.





You do understand that when China built the 3 Gorges dam it actually slowed the earth's rotation. That had nothing to do with the burning of fossil fuel. And if one giant dam does that what do a hundred smaller dams do?

You also do understand that the magnetic poles are currently about to reverse and magnetic north is moving dramatically. What influence does this have on Earth's rotation because the magnetic field is a result of the movement of the inner and outer cores.

The idea that this slowing down is related solely to melting water is suspect. As we have already pointed out, ten thousand years ago the amount of ice was about 3 times what it is today and sea level was about 80 feet lower. So if 5 inches slows the earth by a fraction of a second, how many seconds does 1,000 inches slow it?

You are telling us that the melting ice has affected the earth's rotation, but have done nothing to prove by how much, or even if that is in fact true. Nor have you taken into account other factors.

Also, twice in human history we have reports of the Earth's rotation being dramatically altered. The only way to explain that with physics would be the passing of a large planetary body close enough that it's gravitational pull impacted the rotation. such an event could also explain the huge increase in earthquakes by 1,000% since 1950.
 
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You do understand that when China built the 3 Gorges dam it actually slowed the earth's rotation. That had nothing to do with the burning of fossil fuel. And if one giant dam does that what do a hundred smaller dams do?

You also do understand that the magnetic poles are currently about to reverse and magnetic north is moving dramatically. What influence does this have on Earth's rotation because the magnetic field is a result of the movement of the inner and outer cores.

The idea that this slowing down is related solely to melting water is suspect. As we have already pointed out, ten thousand years ago the amount of ice was about 3 times what it is today and sea level was about 80 feet lower. So if 5 inches slows the earth by a fraction of a second, how many seconds does 1,000 inches slow it?

You are telling us that the melting ice has affected the earth's rotation, but have done nothing to prove by how much, or even if that is in fact true. Nor have you taken into account other factors.

Also, twice in human history we have reports of the Earth's rotation being dramatically altered. The only way to explain that with physics would be the passing of a large planetary body close enough that it's gravitational pull impacted the rotation. such an event could also explain the huge increase in earthquakes by 1,000% since 1950.
well you've got time to watch video this should give you an idea what I've been saying for the last 3 pages. It also mentions the dam you mentioned

The scientist estimate is from 1993 to 2010 humans have moved, a collosal amount of underground water, of 2000 giga tonnes of water from underground to the service, which has raised sea levels by 6mm. That's a huge amount of water to bring to the service. But then combine that with melting ice to.

It's also believe that in doing so it has dictated how the earth is spinning because it changed the moment of inertia. Watch the video.

Basically as the planet spins it pushes the water further away from its centre of mass of rotation, causing a slowing effect.

More weight on the perimeter means spinning slower.







 
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well you've got time to watch video this should give you an idea what I've been saying for the last 3 pages. It also mentions the dam you mentioned

The scientist estimate is from 1993 to 2010 humans have moved, a collosal amount of underground water, of 2000 giga tonnes of water from underground to the service, which has raised sea levels by 6mm. That's a huge amount of water to bring to the service. But then combine that with melting ice to.

It's also believe that in doing so it has dictated how the earth is spinning because it changed the moment of inertia. Watch the video.

Basically as the planet spins it pushes the water further away from its centre of mass of rotation, causing a slowing effect.

More weight on the perimeter means spinning slower.







oops slightly out with my figure lol @ZNP 2150 million giga tons of water has been pumped up from underground to earths service by man.
 
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Most serious warning yet, Scientists warn that we could be entering into a dramatic new phase of climate change this year. Here's why

6 hours ago

 

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Most serious warning yet, Scientists warn that we could be entering into a dramatic new phase of climate change this year. Here's why

6 hours ago

You cannot have dramatic climate change in one year. Climate is the average of a hundred years. A dramatic change this year would be a change in the weather which is not the same thing as a climate change.
 
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You cannot have dramatic climate change in one year. Climate is the average of a hundred years. A dramatic change this year would be a change in the weather which is not the same thing as a climate change.
I see you posted within 4 minutes of me posting ànd the video is 7 minutes long video 😞
 
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You cannot have dramatic climate change in one year. Climate is the average of a hundred years. A dramatic change this year would be a change in the weather which is not the same thing as a climate change.
How do you know you know you can't when scientists says there fearing climate change could accelerate this year
 

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How do you know you know you can't when scientists says there fearing climate change could accelerate this year
Because the definition of the word Climate is "the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period." and "Long period" is generally considered 100 years or more.
 
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Because the definition of the word Climate is "the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period." and "Long period" is generally considered 100 years or more.
does this allow for a dramatic acceleration.

Has there been a dramatic acceleration in those last 100 years

So the earth is slowing down in rotation.

Scientists suspect its because of water shift


We have a dramatic acceleration in global temperature this year, and more water is shifted.

Do you have an idea why scientists may be worried
 

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does this allow for a dramatic acceleration.

Has there been a dramatic acceleration in those last 100 years

So the earth is slowing down in rotation.

Scientists suspect its because of water shift


We have a dramatic acceleration in global temperature this year, and more water is shifted.

Do you have an idea why scientists may be worried
We communicate in language. You do not say the climate has changed because it is hot today, or snows in April.

However, they don't want to say "dramatic weather" because they will be dismissed. But saying a dramatic change in the climate this year is phony baloney, every scientist should know that because it is Climatology 101.