Is The Earth Spinning?

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Ya my cousin who works with the satellite fleet won't talk to me cuz I am beneath him. I can't for life of me get him to tell me what crackpots the flat earthers are.
I know a guy who works with satellites too and gets mad at me when I tell them they are not real. He is not a billionaire with any influence in this world, he is a regular guy with a job like your cousin.
 

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Yes! Let's make a sci fi film from it!

let's make a fake thread so people will think it's a real one!

because their minds would be blown if they discovered there was a real thread.
this is important.
let's spend trillions and trillions of dollars on it and directly involve hundreds of millions of people for a thousand years.
 
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I know a guy who works with satellites too and gets mad at me when I tell them they are not real. He is not a billionaire with any influence in this world, he is a regular guy with a job like your cousin.
Your friend works for my cousin.
 

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let's make a fake thread so people will think it's a real one!

because their minds would be blown if they discovered there was a real thread.
this is important.
let's spend trillions and trillions of dollars on it and directly involve hundreds of millions of people for a thousand years.
I think we've already done this.

I think we did it just now.


: )
 

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I know a guy who works with satellites too and gets mad at me when I tell them they are not real. He is not a billionaire with any influence in this world, he is a regular guy with a job like your cousin.
Does he get paid with Monopoly money for working on something that's not real?
 
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Does he get paid with Monopoly money for working on something that's not real?
And you must be, the monopoly guy

[video=youtube;Cj1wcs7SZj0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj1wcs7SZj0[/video]
 
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Oh no! Pictures of the Apollo crash site.

Apollo-16-408151.jpg
 

posthuman

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in re: moon landings,

[video=youtube;ZdfSoWb6W54]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdfSoWb6W54[/video]

here is a brief, easy to read article outlining the same evidence and reasoning presented in the video:

http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/proof-we-landed-moon-dust


and here, more technically, is the research paper cited in the video & article in .pdf form, in case you feel like arguing with the math, the analysis or the methods; provided so that the skeptical reader is welcome to bring actual argumentation instead of mere flip dismissal without considering the evidence --

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mihaly_Horanyi/publication/258468670_Tracking_Lunar_Dust_-_Analysis_of_Apollo_Footage/links/54a02cb30cf257a6360215d3.pdf
 

posthuman

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or maybe the entire film studio where the LEV was being driven around was in an enormous cargo plane in free fall.

lol.

((oops, footage is longer than 60 seconds. heh))
 
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or maybe the entire film studio where the LEV was being driven around was in an enormous cargo plane in free fall.

lol.

((oops, footage is longer than 60 seconds. heh))
Once again, a simple special effect has deceived you.


They slowed the rover footage down .5X to achieve the visual effect of less gravity.


That is ALL they did. For the astronaut walking portions they slowed the footage down AND had them wear wires.


Here is the rover footage sped up 2X so that you can see the natural motion of everything:

[video=youtube;v5KMqKovRD0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5KMqKovRD0[/video]

The moon rover is clearly on earth in the clip, the way the rover moves and handles as well as the dirt flinging.

IF IT WAS AUTHENTIC FOOTAGE ON THE MOON SPEEDING THE FOOTAGE UP 2X WOULD NOT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS ON EARTH!

A simple 1960's "special effect" of slowing the footage down. You need to really think about the fact that speeding the footage up makes everything look like it is on earth, that should be conclusive evidence that it's a fake video. It's suppose to be 1/6 of the earth's gravity, yet if you speed the footage up it appears to be earth gravity, THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE UNLESS IT'S A FAKE VIDEO MADE ON EARTH AND SLOWED .5X!

In this video the whole process of slowing the footage down is explained:
it start's at the 27:44 minute mark and the explanation is like 60 seconds thereafter.

[video]https://youtu.be/5aIFhlv457U?t=27m44s[/video]
 
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Once again, a simple special effect has deceived you.


They slowed the rover footage down .5X to achieve the visual effect of less gravity.


That is ALL they did. For the astronaut walking portions they slowed the footage down AND had them wear wires.


Here is the rover footage sped up 2X so that you can see the natural motion of everything:

[video=youtube;v5KMqKovRD0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5KMqKovRD0[/video]

The moon rover is clearly on earth in the clip, the way the rover moves and handles as well as the dirt flinging.

IF IT WAS AUTHENTIC FOOTAGE ON THE MOON SPEEDING THE FOOTAGE UP 2X WOULD NOT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS ON EARTH!

A simple 1960's "special effect" of slowing the footage down. You need to really think about the fact that speeding the footage up makes everything look like it is on earth, that should be conclusive evidence that it's a fake video. It's suppose to be 1/6 of the earth's gravity, yet if you speed the footage up it appears to be earth gravity, THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE UNLESS IT'S A FAKE VIDEO MADE ON EARTH AND SLOWED .5X!

In this video the whole process of slowing the footage down is explained:
it start's at the 27:44 minute mark and the explanation is like 60 seconds thereafter.

[video]https://youtu.be/5aIFhlv457U?t=27m44s[/video]

I still see dust flying away in your video. Look closely.
 

posthuman

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They slowed the rover footage down .5X to achieve the visual effect of less gravity.
slowing down the time scale would not make the data look like it does.
all that would do in the graph below is widen the X-axis gradation. it would not affect the Z-direction in the measured trajectory, and so would not match the action of dust on the earth's surface.

Fig-7-Comparison-of-the-measured-dust-trajectory-clip-1-and-calculated-trajectories.png
Tracking Lunar Dust - Analysis of Apollo Footage (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258468670_Tracking_Lunar_Dust_-_Analysis_of_Apollo_Footage
[accessed Mar 12, 2017]


you don't make things look like they are in [SUP]1[/SUP]/[SUB]3[/SUB] gravity just by playing them in slow motion. the ballistics change in a fundamental way. go look at a pop fly in a baseball game at half speed -- does it look like there is much less gravity in the park, and virtually no atmosphere? no - if there were, the fly ball would fly much further away, in an arc with different curvature.
 
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slowing down the time scale would not make the data look like it does.
all that would do in the graph below is widen the X-axis gradation. it would not affect the Z-direction in the measured trajectory, and so would not match the action of dust on the earth's surface.

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Tracking Lunar Dust - Analysis of Apollo Footage (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258468670_Tracking_Lunar_Dust_-_Analysis_of_Apollo_Footage
[accessed Mar 12, 2017]


you don't make things look like they are in [SUP]1[/SUP]/[SUB]3[/SUB] gravity just by playing them in slow motion. the ballistics change in a fundamental way. go look at a pop fly in a baseball game at half speed -- does it look like there is much less gravity in the park, and virtually no atmosphere? no - if there were, the fly ball would fly much further away, in an arc with different curvature.
1/6th of the Earth's gravity and the dust only gets kicked up a couple feet and goes right back down, exactly like earth.

[video=youtube;2NOOer5-8Lk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NOOer5-8Lk[/video]

You need to look at the video instead of looking at graphs that tell you what to believe.

Think about what 1/6th gravity is and look at how the dust moves exactly like earth despite this. Sped up 2x it becomes indistinguishable from earth.
 

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Look dude, you are not comprehending.

Things don't just fall slower in low gravity - they rise higher in the air for a given initial velocity. Think. When you watch a base hit una baseball game in slo motion, it doesn't become a home run.

Those little idiot videos you're posting are bogus, and deceiving you because you lack knowledge of physics.
 

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And that's what we see in the LEV footage: dust flying higher that it should in earth gravity, in a different parabolic path. A path that statistically matches lunar gravity.

The path it takes is completely independent of the speed you play the video.

Conspiracy debunked. Sorry for your loss.
 
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