Is The Earth Spinning?

[pckts]

Here's how I see it, scripture says the sun stood still, meaning it wasn't standing still before hand correct?, second the moon stopped? Stopped what? God stopped these from what? Spinning of coarse.

time stood still as us earthians measure our earth time people don't measure time by the earths spin why because we are standing on it. Now is the verse Joshua 10:13 saying that only the moon and sun move and earth stands still no not at all it doesn't say anything about the earth moving because humans don't measure time like that well at least in those times hehehe.

God isn't going to teach about something that the ancient people had no way of knowing, it's like traveling in car at 80 mph you don't feel yourself moving at 80mph same thing with standing on earth you can feel the earth moving at 1040 mph. to mention the earth moving would have caused great confusion among the ancient people because they couldn't feel the earth move. but they knew the sun and moon moved in the sky. Pretty simple concept.

So rather you believe in a spinning earth or still earth this is something outside of scripture to learn, something outside of script, just like the planet Mars anybody can buy a good telescope and view Mars your own self. That planet isn't written in scripture but we can see it in the night sky it's no hoax though some believe it is because out of fear to buy a telescope and actually see it, though that would change a person's thoughts about it and some people don't want to peak outside the box, that ok tis your own, no one is going to be comdenmed for not believing in a spin earth or still earth.

Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

Some know this some don't but the moon is spinning but it's in what is called a tidal lock with earth. perfectly sync so it appears as if it isn't spinning but it is a type of optical allusion.

Let's talk about this point you make that the ancient people had "no way of knowing".

#1 You believe in an omniscient all powerful God that talks to people(Me too it's great!), couldn't He have told us these complex things about our home Earth?

#2 You don't think ancient people had boats capable of world navigation? You believe "The wright brothers" discovered flight and created the first flying machine? I make this point more for understanding proper shape of earth rather than knowing whether moving or not.

#3 The Pyramids at Giza are located at EXACTLY the center of Earth's land mass(flat earthers and globers are in agreeance on this), They are also located very very very close to perfection on our modern Grid Coordinate System. Both of these points imply The builders of the Pyramids at Giza new the exact dimensions of the earth. Then you have this fact about it's proportions that implies the same


They seem to know the dimensions of the "moon" (Sun and moon because flat earthers believe they are the same size") as well as the the dimensions of the earth. Is this something one can come to without knowing the relationship the three (or two idc) objects share?

Can you really build the pyramids at exactly center earth land mass (meaning it's located at the center of the earth parts of earth not including the water of earth), and build it in proportion to the earth's and moon's actual sizes in relation to one another, without knowing the correct shapes, distances, directions, patterns, and all of that that constitutes the relationship between the 3?

Ancient people intimately knew the world that they lived and that knowledge is contained in remnants of their culture like the Giza Pyramids.

#4 You believe Copernicus (or whatever men you attribute this finding to) "discovered" the earth was what you think it is with simple experiments and calculations correct?

Anyone with a writing utensil and a "smart" brain should have been able to figure this out then, why did it take until the 1500s for white Freemasons and Jesuits in Europe to crunch the numbers for humanity, who then forcefully "gave" this knowledge to the rest of the world as they conquered their governments and rewrote their school curriculum? It was the beginning of the lie, not the discovery of the truth.

The ancient people knew the correct model of the universe

 

[BeyondET]

Let's talk about this point you make that the ancient people had "no way of knowing".

#1 You believe in an omniscient all powerful God that talks to people(Me too it's great!), couldn't He have told us these complex things about our home Earth?

#2 You don't think ancient people had boats capable of world navigation? You believe "The wright brothers" discovered flight and created the first flying machine? I make this point more for understanding proper shape of earth rather than knowing whether moving or not.

#3 The Pyramids at Giza are located at EXACTLY the center of Earth's land mass(flat earthers and globers are in agreeance on this), They are also located very very very close to perfection on our modern Grid Coordinate System. Both of these points imply The builders of the Pyramids at Giza new the exact dimensions of the earth. Then you have this fact about it's proportions that implies the same

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They seem to know the dimensions of the "moon" (Sun and moon because flat earthers believe they are the same size") as well as the the dimensions of the earth. Is this something one can come to without knowing the relationship the three (or two idc) objects share?

Can you really build the pyramids at exactly center earth land mass (meaning it's located at the center of the earth parts of earth not including the water of earth), and build it in proportion to the earth's and moon's actual sizes in relation to one another, without knowing the correct shapes, distances, directions, patterns, and all of that that constitutes the relationship between the 3?

Ancient people intimately knew the world that they lived and that knowledge is contained in remnants of their culture like the Giza Pyramids.

#4 You believe Copernicus (or whatever men you attribute this finding to) "discovered" the earth was what you think it is with simple experiments and calculations correct?

Anyone with a writing utensil and a "smart" brain should have been able to figure this out then, why did it take until the 1500s for white Freemasons and Jesuits in Europe to crunch the numbers for humanity, who then forcefully "gave" this knowledge to the rest of the world as they conquered their governments and rewrote their school curriculum? It was the beginning of the lie, not the discovery of the truth.

The ancient people knew the correct model of the universe

Well these monuments weren't built on the center of earth but around natural energy forces of earth. Yea they were quite knowledgeable of things indeed.

[video=youtube;bztxu3G05Ac]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bztxu3G05Ac[/video]

 

[BeyondET]

They knew the stars around our galaxy but even these folks couldn't see beyond our own Galaxy.

 

[pckts]

Well these monuments weren't built on the center of earth but around natural energy forces of earth. Yea they were quite knowledgeable of things indeed.

[video=youtube;bztxu3G05Ac]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bztxu3G05Ac[/video]

I guess you think you can slap a like on my post, ignore 90% of it, and then "agree" with me by telling me a fact I presented was false.

FACT: It's center land mass of earth



I would bring back up the other points I made and ask you questions regarding them to attempt to get you to acknowledge them, but you have already proven what kind of "debater" you are.

 

[Sirk]

I guess you think you can slap a like on my post, ignore 90% of it, and then "agree" with me by telling me a fact I presented was false.

FACT: It's center land mass of earth

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I would bring back up the other points I made and ask you questions regarding them to attempt to get you to acknowledge them, but you have already proven what kind of "debater" you are.

Thats interesting. Did not know that the pyramids were the center of land mass. I guess I can take your word for that. But they are also proportional to a certain trifecta of stars out there in the universe. While it proves that the ancients had a certain set of math skills we have yet to understand, I fail to see how it proves a flat earth.

 

[pckts]

Thats interesting. Did not know that the pyramids were the center of land mass. I guess I can take your word for that. But they are also proportional to a certain trifecta of stars out there in the universe. While it proves that the ancients had a certain set of math skills we have yet to understand, I fail to see how it proves a flat earth.

Don't take my word for it, for once this is something the new age false prophets your respect actually agree with me on. Go google something useful instead of falling deeper into your matrix lies. lol It's funny how you find a way to make even agreeing with a fact I present completely insulting and belittling.

Sirk, Go learn about point #3 with google, ponder points 1,2, and 4 that I made, and then maybe on another day I will have the energy to attempt to move your education further.

 

[BeyondET]

I guess you think you can slap a like on my post, ignore 90% of it, and then "agree" with me by telling me a fact I presented was false.

FACT: It's center land mass of earth

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I would bring back up the other points I made and ask you questions regarding them to attempt to get you to acknowledge them, but you have already proven what kind of "debater" you are.

Of coarse I've read you post the whole thing, now what I said in my first post of not knowing things of the spinning earth only pertained to people of the bible, Surely you understood who i was referencing as to who didn't you? or did you skip over that and just assume I was talking about the Egyptians too,, did you come now tell the truth friend?

 

[BeyondET]

The center of the earths mass as at the center of the earth it's not on its out lying surface area that is way away from the center of mass.. Is the center of a wheel tire around on the rubber tire of coarse not its at the wheel hub in the middle.

 

[Sirk]

Don't take my word for it, for once this is something the new age false prophets your respect actually agree with me on. Go google something useful instead of falling deeper into your matrix lies. lol It's funny how you find a way to make even agreeing with a fact I present completely insulting and belittling.

Sirk, Go learn about point #3 with google, ponder points 1,2, and 4 that I made, and then maybe on another day I will have the energy to attempt to move your education further.

Well thanks for putting yourself above me your heinous. I was being respectful to you and you come at me with this lofty holier than thou crap. Whatever man....have a nice life.

 

[pckts]

Of coarse I've read you post the whole thing, now what I said in my first post of not knowing things of the spinning earth only pertained to people of the bible, Surely you understood who i was referencing as to who didn't you? or did you skip over that and just assume I was talking about the Egyptians too,, did you come now tell the truth friend?

The Bible was written for all of humanity, not just the people of the times. God gave us his Perfect Unbroken Word, so it does not matter "who the people of the times" were, it would not effect the message.

So I do understand, I did not skip, nor did I assume.

 

[BeyondET]

The Bible was written for all of humanity, not just the people of the times. God gave us his Perfect Unbroken Word, so it does not matter "who the people of the times" were, it would not effect the message.

So I do understand, I did not skip, nor did I assume.

True but when the sun was stopped and moon stood still was God teaching Eygpt too? I'm trying to figure out why you brought up the Egyptians when we where clearly talking about Joshua account.

I feel as your wanting to twist things around I hope that's not the case friend. I've been trying to be nice in our conversation but I don't feel as you want the same.

 

[pckts]

Well thanks for putting yourself above me your heinous. I was being respectful to you and you come at me with this lofty holier than thou crap. Whatever man....have a nice life.

"I guess I can take your word for it" is something that if thought should go unsaid.

Then you act as if I was telling you the location of Giza alone proves a Flat Earth , which wasn't the intention, the intention was to give physical evidence ancient people had intimate knowledge of the earth, so that the person I addressed point that the ancient people "Had now way of knowing these things" was wrong. You misrepresented my intentions and then just hid behind your generic default line "I fail to see how this proves a flat earth".

You pop in here acting as the critic (even though it's rare you defend your side or do anything other than dismiss things for assumptions you make that are shallow and incorrect) and tell me I failed at something that was not my intended goal, the goal was to give reasons why ancient people could have had intimate knowledge of earth and give an example of this.

But worst of all, now you play the victim, because I was put off by your response.

 

[Sirk]

"I guess I can take your word for it" is something that if thought should go unsaid.

Then you act as if I was telling you the location of Giza alone proves a Flat Earth , which wasn't the intention, the intention was to give physical evidence ancient people had intimate knowledge of the earth, so that the person I addressed point that the ancient people "Had now way of knowing these things" was wrong. You misrepresented my intentions and then just hid behind your generic default line "I fail to see how this proves a flat earth".

You pop in here acting as the critic (even though it's rare you defend your side or do anything other than dismiss things for assumptions you make that are shallow and incorrect) and tell me I failed at something that was not my intended goal, the goal was to give reasons why ancient people could have had intimate knowledge of earth and give an example of this.

But worst of all, now you play the victim, because I was put off by your response.

I don't need to defend a spinning ball earth orbiting the sun. It's you that need to prove your assertion. You are a very small minority my friend....some may even say bordering on mental illness. Maybe youre one of the 144k? Lol

 

[Sirk]

You know what I think is cool? God designing things in 3's. What I don't think is cool....is people thinking they are the center of the universe. And you my friend...pckts...seem to think you are the center of the universe. Maybe that is why you like the flat earth theory. At any rate...I think you have some predisposition to thinking you are special.....and youre not. Youre not special or unique..there are a thousand others just like you...all caught up in meaningless nonsense...stepping closer and closer to their appointed time to die and be forgotten. I hope you find that the true meaning and purpose of your life....to connect to someone and to share love. If you can't share love here....why do you think you can share it in heaven? Silly battle you have chosen to fight. Carry on my foolish folly filled friend.

 

[CaptainGoat]

Anyone consider asking God directly to show you? He may need to show you a few other things first before you are ready to be shown. I'm not saying one way or the other what the outcome will be as leave that to God. Have patience. Wait for the answer.

 

[pckts]

True but when the sun was stopped and moon stood still was God teaching Eygpt too? I'm trying to figure out why you brought up the Egyptians when we where clearly talking about Joshua account.

I feel as your wanting to twist things around I hope that's not the case friend. I've been trying to be nice in our conversation but I don't feel as you want the same.

The only thing twisted is your own understanding, which I'll attempt to unravel now. Your statement that I put in bold

"God isn't going to teach about something that the ancient people had no way of knowing"

You believe the globe earth, so with this statement I think your rationality is something along the lines of:

"The earth actually spins, but these ancient people did not know, and God did not mention it because it would confuse them so he spoke in words they would understand to get his message across."

You make the assumption that the ancient people were ill-informed in their understanding of cosmology and that God had to censor himself from saying spinning or the people would get confused. My entire post was to point out to you that these "ancient people" actually weren't ill informed of their earth and demonstrate advanced knowledge of cosmology, and that God was not changing his message to avoid confusion at all.

The confusion regarding his message did not occur until Man's understanding of cosmology was changed by Satan, now you believe God distorted his message rather than Man distorting your beliefs about cosmology.

P.S You are further confused in thinking the ancient Egyptians thought the earth spun, they didn't and I wasn't suggesting they did. I only brought up how intimately they knew the earth, to arouse suspicions in you that other ancient civilizations also may have been equally if not more advanced, and that the fact that they were this far along and still did not believing in rotation or the heliocentric model, that maybe just maybe it would cast more doubt on the globe model.

 

[pckts]

You know what I think is cool? God designing things in 3's. What I don't think is cool....is people thinking they are the center of the universe. And you my friend...pckts...seem to think you are the center of the universe. Maybe that is why you like the flat earth theory. At any rate...I think you have some predisposition to thinking you are special.....and youre not. Youre not special or unique..there are a thousand others just like you...all caught up in meaningless nonsense...stepping closer and closer to their appointed time to die and be forgotten. I hope you find that the true meaning and purpose of your life....to connect to someone and to share love. If you can't share love here....why do you think you can share it in heaven? Silly battle you have chosen to fight. Carry on my foolish folly filled friend.

At this point we "know" each other, and this was not or first interaction tonight.

I have joked with you several times about how I teach you flat earth theory step by step, when I said I don't have the energy to move your education further I was referencing that to make a joke to you. I'm not sure if you remember this "step by step" joke, or if you are the person I make this joke with.

Idk if that is what upset you, but I really did not like "ill take your word for it" and your critique of a mis-represenation of my point.

But, I am sorry if the joke set you off that I honestly meant lightly to make you laugh at my sarcasm.

 

[BeyondET]

The only thing twisted is your own understanding, which I'll attempt to unravel now. Your statement that I put in bold

"God isn't going to teach about something that the ancient people had no way of knowing"

You believe the globe earth, so with this statement I think your rationality is something along the lines of:

"The earth actually spins, but these ancient people did not know, and God did not mention it because it would confuse them so he spoke in words they would understand to get his message across."

You make the assumption that the ancient people were ill-informed in their understanding of cosmology and that God had to censor himself from saying spinning or the people would get confused. My entire post was to point out to you that these "ancient people" actually weren't ill informed of their earth and demonstrate advanced knowledge of cosmology, and that God was not changing his message to avoid confusion at all.

The confusion regarding his message did not occur until Man's understanding of cosmology was changed by Satan, now you believe God distorted his message rather than Man distorting your beliefs about cosmology.

P.S You are further confused in thinking the ancient Egyptians thought the earth spun, they didn't and I wasn't suggesting they did. I only brought up how intimately they knew the earth, to arouse suspicions in you that other ancient civilizations also may have been equally if not more advanced, and that the fact that they were this far along and still did not believing in rotation or the heliocentric model, that maybe just maybe it would cast more doubt on the globe model.

Well I guess me and you will never see eye to eye on this matter, and besides your to immature to have a real conversation with again you twist things to make it sound as you what it too, this seems to be the normal thing now days among young poopie pants like yourself. Again the ancient people I spoke of was the people who were eyewitness to the sun stop etc.. Your just not getting that message you want to bring up Eygpt and other ancient people has nothing to do with what we where talking about Joshua account do you remember that. Farther more you have no idea what the Egyptians thought of a spinning earth or not spinning earth this is just some made up hog wash to warm your agitating like a washer machine. reverse psyche crap doesn't work on me.

You make statements like my assumption is of ill informed people again I didn't say that I said they were taught about what they saw that was it. Dude you really got issues with the twisting words thing, it's sad but it's the Internet and there's nothing that can change that you can act up and look stupid all day long. I know your just being bold and ugly talking because your talking to older folks and you've probably been not able to speak like this in your young life to people a lot older than you and and it is pleasing you at the moment you can have fun on me it's quite ok. Good day poopie pants.

P.S. Yes the earth is a sphere that spins on its own axes O well if you can't grasp that.

 

[pckts]

Well I guess me and you will never see eye to eye on this matter, and besides your to immature to have a real conversation with again you twist things to make it sound as you what it too, this seems to be the normal thing now days among young poopie pants like yourself. Again the ancient people I spoke of was the people who were eyewitness to the sun stop etc.. Your just not getting that message you want to bring up Eygpt and other ancient people has nothing to do with what we where talking about Joshua account do you remember that. Farther more you have no idea what the Egyptians thought of a spinning earth or not spinning earth this is just some made up hog wash to warm your agitating like a washer machine. reverse psyche crap doesn't work on me.

You make statements like my assumption is of ill informed people again I didn't say that I said they were taught about what they saw that was it. Dude you really got issues with the twisting words thing, it's sad but it's the Internet and there's nothing that can change that you can act up and look stupid all day long. I know your just being bold and ugly talking because your talking to older folks and you've probably been not able to speak like this in your young life to people a lot older than you and and it is pleasing you at the moment you can have fun on me it's quite ok. Good day poopie pants.

P.S. Yes the earth is a sphere that spins on its own axes O well if you can't grasp that.

You just completely broke down and became so immature and pathetic

I don't twist your words, I hold you to them

I will now be holding you to calling me poopie pants

 

[BeyondET]

You just completely broke down and became so immature and pathetic

I don't twist your words, I hold you to them

I will now be holding you to calling me poopie pants

Nice try but you can hold my ice water while a take a nap.. let's just say it's even, good day poopie pants.