Muslim Religion Started by Catholic Church

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bojack

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let me ask you something... Have you figured out the lineage between Matthew and Luke yet? im still on that one...
Mathew shows Joseph's line from Solomon, Jesus legal but not biological father and Luke is Mary's line from King David through Nathan .. in both lines God is His Father
 

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And why do we coddle to a faith of jihadist and pedophiles? If Mohammed, was not a satanic pedophile, why did he marry 6 and 9 year old girls, and why do muslim men still have baby brides? What would lead anyone to believe their religion is about love when it says, "Behead the Christians where they stand", in the Koran. Why don't Christian's consider islam similar to the church of satan, rather than a peaceful religion?

I'm not trying to put down the islamic faith, as much as I'm trying to understand, should we as Christian's, consider their faith as a peaceful religion, a cult of satan or a political movement?
We as Christian's are meant to expose darkness, rebuke and turn from it and speak truth. If you study sharia law very much you may come to a new understanding of what the islamic faith really stands for. I dont see anything but darkness and I rebuke islam, in the name of Jesus.
Both the roman catholic church and islam are evil religions and not of God.. But the belief that the catholic church started islam is just a conspiracy theory.. Now it is probably right that the roman catholic authorities did not mind that the muslims where attaching and destroying the Eastern Orthodox Church which had broken away from the evil roman cathoic cult.. But it is a bit too far to say that the roman catholic religion started islam.. Eventually the blood thirsty jihadist muslims reached catholic communities and started to slaughter them as they did Eastern Outhodux communities.. So in the end islam was islamic towards all those they consiodered infidels..
 

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https://www.technocracy.news/one-world-religion-pope-francis-signs-historic-covenant-with-islam/


I know a great deal about ISLAM, it is not a friend of Christianity, it is Not hate speech to speak the truth. Christians in Africa, Syria, Egypt are being killed daily, in the name of their disgusting version of god, their false god. Think what you will, the truth will reveal itself.

From their scriptures : Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." ---This is being acted out all over the world-
Well said.. :) Stand firm for the truth and against those who wish to ally themselves with Evil by trying to suppress those who reveal evil by calling them guilty of hate speech.. Such evil tactics from disgraceful ones..

It is good to hate Evil.. And thus it is good to hate the evil roman catholic religion and the evil islamic religion..
 
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But the belief that the catholic church started islam is just a conspiracy theory.
You may want to investigate further, I am not stating it is true since historical evidence can be tricky, but it bears investigation.
 

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no, im on the hunt for a church... i have been to Rome, i love the Vatican, i research all kinds of literature that is written by the saints, who preserved the Christian Faith up through the middle ages... but a question posed to me recently by many people is that i have to find "the true church"... and is there one? im not going to say yes or no right now... im going to start to go to 3 churches a week to seek them out
Read the holy Bible.. Trust in His Word.. Not in the words of supposed ""saints""

Who is declaring these supposed saints to be saints??

His Word is truth that should be our foundation.. In it we find real truth and real security..
 

bojack

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no, im on the hunt for a church... i have been to Rome, i love the Vatican, i research all kinds of literature that is written by the saints, who preserved the Christian Faith up through the middle ages... but a question posed to me recently by many people is that i have to find "the true church"... and is there one? im not going to say yes or no right now... im going to start to go to 3 churches a week to seek them out
You can find a good church but don't ever give your whole heart to any church, anything or anybody but Jesus ..
 
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It's not Abrahamic at all. The claims of Islam are false.
This is actually sad because the Bible do address this, God said to Abraham take your son (Isaac) your only son (quoted from memory).

The word only in Hebrew can actually be translated as chosen. Isaac was the chosen one. Ismail also became a multitude (as God promised) and yes the Arabs were born from him but he was never the chosen one.
 
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Science (through carbon dating) is actually assisting Christians to proof our religion is the only one. There are no manuscripts found in Islam or Catholicism that are thousands of years old. The oldest Muslim transcripts is basically 300 years old (if memory serve me correct). The problem is because Mohamed was illiterate they never wrote it down and it was transferred through memory (as I understand it).

This is also why the Vatican is not always willing to give there documents up for carbon dating using the excuse that it will destroy the value of the document.

The Torah portions that were tested was thousands of years old as claimed by the Hebrews.
 
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Bede

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Well, on this protestant site, where the Official stance is "Catholic is not Christian", it's no surprise people speak openly against it. Most on this site take a dim view of Catholocism.
And where does this site officially state that Catholics are not Christians?
 
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Bede

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The Catholic Church does deny both Father and Son ... and the adherents have no clue of such.
Utterly untrue.

Have you not read Ex 20:16: “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
 
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Bede

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If that is RCC bashing on post #22 then it is by an RCC nun .. I can bash aplenty if I wanted to ..
Give me the details of this "Cathaolic nun".

How do you know she is a Catholic nun?
What congregation does she belong to?
 
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Bede

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Both the roman catholic church and islam are evil religions and not of God.. But the belief that the catholic church started islam is just a conspiracy theory.. Now it is probably right that the roman catholic authorities did not mind that the muslims where attaching and destroying the Eastern Orthodox Church which had broken away from the evil roman cathoic cult.. But it is a bit too far to say that the roman catholic religion started islam.. Eventually the blood thirsty jihadist muslims reached catholic communities and started to slaughter them as they did Eastern Outhodux communities.. So in the end islam was islamic towards all those they consiodered infidels..
If by the "roman catholic church" you mean the Catholic Church then you are wrong. It is not evil and it is not a cult.
 
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Bede

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You may want to investigate further, I am not stating it is true since historical evidence can be tricky, but it bears investigation.
In normal discussions it is the person making the claim that should be investigating and providing evidence to back up that claim.
 
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EleventhHour

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It is clear to me from your comments that you do not know of what you speak.
I assume you are Catholic... and I know more than I want to ...but if you prefer your emotional attachment to a religion that is your choice.
 
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EleventhHour

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In normal discussions it is the person making the claim that should be investigating and providing evidence to back up that claim.
I said it bears investigation... leaving it to the person.
 
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Bede

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I assume you are Catholic... and I know more than I want to ...but if you prefer your emotional attachment to a religion that is your choice.
I am Catholic. Why do you assume that my attachment is only emotional?