Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

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GaryA

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NASA states that they are composites. It's simply impossible otherwise. A composite is a a real photo. Stand on a high point and look to the horizon. Can you see the whole of the view? No. Your field of view is insufficient. Likewise with cameras. And no camera can see the other side of a sphere, no more than the human eye can.
No - a composite is not a real photo - understand the context - a real photo is a single unedited image the whole of which was created together as one complete picture.

I don't think anyone is talking about seeing the other side of a sphere - again - context - the entire half of a sphere (the camera side) in a single unedited image is required.
 

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No - a composite is not a real photo - understand the context - a real photo is a single unedited image the whole of which was created together as one complete picture.

I don't think anyone is talking about seeing the other side of a sphere - again - context - the entire half of a sphere (the camera side) in a single unedited image is required.
Illogical. If I look at the horizon from a high point, my field of view means that i can't see the whole horizon at once. If I try to photograph it, I can't include the whole horizon in the photo either. That does not mean that what I see by moving my head or the camera is not real. I can capture the panorama by taking a number of pictures and yes, producing a composite. To say that the end result is fake is patently absurd. But that is what FE people claim about the photos of the earth.
 

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Illogical. If I look at the horizon from a high point, my field of view means that i can't see the whole horizon at once. If I try to photograph it, I can't include the whole horizon in the photo either. That does not mean that what I see by moving my head or the camera is not real. I can capture the panorama by taking a number of pictures and yes, producing a composite. To say that the end result is fake is patently absurd. But that is what FE people claim about the photos of the earth.
We are not talking about the horizon or panorama pictures - we are talking about the whole earth in a camera frame as a single all-together-in-one-exposure image without edit or seam.
 

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A composite is a a real photo.
Do you understand the difference between a 'photo' (photograph), an 'image', and a 'picture'?

A 'composite' can be said to be a real 'image' or a real 'picture' - but, cannot be said to be a real 'photo'.

By definition, a 'photo' is created by a single-exposure of a single-emulsion film - or, if digital, [it means] every pixel of the image is captured together at the same moment in time and remains unaltered.
 

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If we succumbed to the idea that the earth is flat the Russians would have overrun us. Our aircrafts and missiles would be needing so much fuel that most of them would not be able to compete.
 

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We are not talking about the horizon or panorama pictures - we are talking about the whole earth in a camera frame as a single all-together-in-one-exposure image without edit or seam.
I have to wonder about the mental state of flat earthers. Is it too hard to comprehend that it is simply physically impossible to take a photo of the whole earth from the typical satellite orbit? I don't want to be rude as you are one of the more reasonable FE adherents. But I just have to shake my head over your statement.

There are pictures of the earth from space but FE people reject that there is space as most people know it. So I've not posted them. FE people refuse to believe their own eyes anyway so it is pointless.
 

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I have to wonder about the mental state of flat earthers. Is it too hard to comprehend that it is simply physically impossible to take a photo of the whole earth from the typical satellite orbit? I don't want to be rude as you are one of the more reasonable FE adherents. But I just have to shake my head over your statement.

There are pictures of the earth from space but FE people reject that there is space as most people know it. So I've not posted them. FE people refuse to believe their own eyes anyway so it is pointless.
I am more concerned about the spiritual state of those who claim to be "Christians". It is so much harder to comprehend and believe the stars falling (traveling) over 25 trillion miles to earth [and virtually all of them being larger than the earth] without knocking the earth out of orbit. Now that's a stretch! So I join you in shaking my head as well. I would rather refuse to believe my own eyes (which may deceive me) than to reject the teaching of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ (who will NEVER deceive me).

Matthew 24:29, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"
Revelation 6:13, "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth . . ."

If you need a refresher to the reference above, please see Post #14.
 
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I have to wonder about the mental state of flat earthers. Is it too hard to comprehend that it is simply physically impossible to take a photo of the whole earth from the typical satellite orbit? I don't want to be rude as you are one of the more reasonable FE adherents. But I just have to shake my head over your statement.

There are pictures of the earth from space but FE people reject that there is space as most people know it. So I've not posted them. FE people refuse to believe their own eyes anyway so it is pointless.
You worry about our mental health, hmm. Thank you I guess. I worry about the intellectual health of people who make contradictory statements.

You said, "Is it too hard to comprehend that it is simply physically impossible to take a photo of the whole earth from the typical satellite orbit? Well no, we are actually very well aware of this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zkq41ZYoGug

But then you say, "There are pictures of the earth from space but FE people reject that there is space as most people know it."

So forgive me if I misunderstand you, but you say that we can't get pictures of the earth from low earth orbit, but then you say that we have pictures from space. Is low earth orbit, such as the orbit occupied by the ISS still not space? I mean, its called the International SPACE Station.

You are correct, in that we believe space to be fake.

And we believe every alleged photo from space to be fake. But then again you say, "FE people refuse to believe their own eyes anyway so it is pointless."

I posted a video above which you probably will not watch, and even if you did you wouldn't believe it. So who is it actually that is denying their own senses here? It's not us.

Have you ever taken even a few moments to examine closely those alleged pictures from space?

I can't wait to read your response, presuming that you actually do watch the posted video.

And I have another question for you if you would be so kind to ponder it. Had you never received your government indoctrination, would your five senses tell you that you were on a ball spinning at over 1000 miles per hour, while simultaneously expanding away from the stars above your head at over 600,000 miles per hour? The same stars I might add, that while allegedly moving away from us and each other at breakneck speeds, somehow manage to maintain the same positions in our night sky that they have for thousands of years.

I believe in biblical cosmology. You have put your trust in scientists, mathematical models and hypothesis generated by a group of people who have done their level best for centuries to undermine everything your bible tells you, up to and including the very existence of the author of the bible Himself, The Spirit of the Living God.

Just saying man. I don't think we are the ones with the problem here.
 
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I have to wonder about the mental state of flat earthers. Is it too hard to comprehend that it is simply physically impossible to take a photo of the whole earth from the typical satellite orbit? I don't want to be rude as you are one of the more reasonable FE adherents. But I just have to shake my head over your statement.

There are pictures of the earth from space but FE people reject that there is space as most people know it. So I've not posted them. FE people refuse to believe their own eyes anyway so it is pointless.
OK, I've reread your post several times, and I want to apologize for accusing you of making contradictory statements. I think I see now what you meant. So please correct me if I am yet again mistaken.

You acknowledge that we cannot get a full view of the earth from low earth orbit. Hence the composite images taken from low earth orbit. But this is where I'm still confused. You claim that we have photos of the earth (at least the visible side of it) from deeper in space. Am I correct? And you also insist that these images are available for all to see.

So hopefully I understand you now. My response to this claim is that no, we do not have photographs of the earth from deeper space. And I challenge you to produce these photos that you speak of. And, I can assure you that when you do, every one of these "photos" will also be composite images if not outright CGI.

If you reference the video I linked to in my previous reply, you will see those images. And you will also see the gay guy from NASA telling you that they are composites.

So the only question left I guess, is will you take the NASA artist at his word, or will you still insist that these are actual photos from space? They are not.

If the scientific community could indeed actually produce images of the complete visible side of the earth from space, it's game over for flat earth. But they never have, they never will, and that is because it is impossible for them to do so.

A cursory examination of the photos you claim came from space will prove beyond any doubt that they are not actual photos of the earth. How so? Easy, watch the video. In one photo, North America is at least 3 times the size that it is in another photo. And that's just one discrepancy. How do you explain this? There's only one viable explanation, they are lying to you. That's kind of what governments do you know?

If you are aware of any government on this plane(t) that is faithful to Creator God, His Holy Word, which serves Christ, promotes His teachings, and rules their citizens by His holy example, please point them out to me, I'm moving there tomorrow. The fact is, governments are basically evil and corrupt and run by the most evil and corrupt among us. And the academic institutions whose information you religiously cling to in support of your position are on their payroll.

You're a Christian for heavens sake, do you not know that Satan and the world are your mortal enemies? Why do you trust them? All over the world millions of people are injured, dead and dying right now because they believed the lies their governments told them. How is it that you still put your trust in these Satanic institutions? And have you not considered for a moment just why it is they may want to deceive you about these issues? This should be a no brainer for any discerning believer. Don't put your faith in governments ruled by Satan the father of lies, or his institutions.

We aren't the crazy ones.

We were taught just as you were, from an early age, to deny our senses. But by the grace of God we realized that we were living in an empire of lies ruled by the Emperor of Lies. You're a little behind the curve bro, wake up.