Should the government take away my right to bear arms so only the "bad guys" have guns?

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GaryA

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I'm very primitive when it comes to American law, I do understand why some laws are in place in your country, stand your ground law it just seems lots of your laws have so much room for corruption.
What I suspect that you don't quite understand is - in the U.S.A. - in general - the most corrupt people are the ones who are passing the laws. THAT is why there is so much room for corruption. It is not because of the common people.
 

jacob_g

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I'm very primitive when it comes to American law, I do understand why some laws are in place in your country, stand your ground law it just seems lots of your laws have so much room for corruption.
We stand our 2ed amendment law because when the government did not want us to be free (King George) the government tried to take away our guns so we could not fight back. And if you look at what is happening here with open eyes, the Socialist want to take over America, take away our right to bare arms and form a mishula. We are FREE PEOPLE WHO WILL AND ALWAYS REMAIN FREE!!!!!
 
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Amen.....I know many people that are well armed....NONE will give them up without a fight and none will sell them back.......You know, I fully believe that if we keep going the way we are going that a civil war will errupt in the U.S. at some point....leader against leader and violence in the land right before the HINDERMOST of the NATIONS, the LADY OF THE KINGDOMS falls.......!!

Not even close. At that point. The military will get involved and then, Game over!. Listen to Trump. He say's that He built the biggest Military ever!...
 
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I can only speak from my experience; in South Africa they are trying to create a society without guns and it is not working. Criminals will always have guns! Now the “good guys” are without defence. How absurd...
 

dcontroversal

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Not even close. At that point. The military will get involved and then, Game over!. Listen to Trump. He say's that He built the biggest Military ever!...
Not hardly......and you must not get much.....! And you must not know many cops and or veterans!
 

Dude653

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No one is taking your guns unless the second amendment is repealed which it's highly unlikely
 
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Not hardly......and you must not get much.....! And you must not know many cops and or veterans!
I must not get much of what? And half of my family have fought in war's. Just not against it's own
citizens...
 

bojack

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I must not get much of what? And half of my family have fought in war's. Just not against it's own
citizens...

There may or may not be another war in the US if they try to throw the Constitution and the Bill of Rights out .. The demlibs, RINO's and the socialists have been pushing hard to destroy America inch by inch .. I'm pretty sure when the 45yrs old and younger take over and 45 yrs old and older generation is gone America will leave too ..
 

bojack

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There may or may not be another war in the US if they try to throw the Constitution and the Bill of Rights out .. The demlibs, RINO's and the socialists have been pushing hard to destroy America inch by inch .. I'm pretty sure when the 45yrs old and younger take over and 45 yrs old and older generation is gone America will leave too ..
When the NWO begins worldwide it will be nothing like everyone thinks .. Just like normally if you go in debt over your head, folks only think of the good and not when the ''what if'' goes wrong .. It will go wrong and worse than you could ever imagine , right now the devils are still selling the sweet lies and trying to convince every one ''we don't need a out of date, mean ole sovereign strong America or it's old Constitution .. Murphy's Law is coming to the world in spades when we're gone .. I almost think it's funny except I feel like I need to warn folks ..
 
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The gun trade is a multi billion dollar business for criminals. Should the government take away my right to bear arms so only the "bad guys" have guns?
Did you read what you just posted? I agree. Gun companies are allowed to sell guns to criminal's
That is what they are trying to prevent. everyone that passes a background check. get's a gun. Just not military weapon's.
 

Oncefallen

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The gun trade is a multi billion dollar business for criminals. Should the government take away my right to bear arms so only the "bad guys" have guns?
Did you read what you just posted? I agree. Gun companies are allowed to sell guns to criminal's
That is what they are trying to prevent. everyone that passes a background check. get's a gun. Just not military weapon's.
You completely misread (or inferred a meaning based on your own misconceptions) to the OP. The gun trade IS a multi billion dollar business for CRIMINALS. Nowhere in that statement is it even implied that gun manufacturers are allowed to sell firearms to criminals (they can't).

Every state and federal law all prohibit the sale of firearms to convicted felons. Every state and federal law requires gun dealers (manufacturers provide to wholesalers who then proved legal FFL dealers) perform a background check prior to the transfer of a firearm.

Criminal gun trade is just that, ILLEGAL. Criminals gain the weapons for that trade through theft or via straw purchases (paying someone who isn't a convict to purchase a firearm for you) which is...........



wait for it........







ILLEGAL.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for a felon to LEGALLY obtain or possess a firearm.


The issue that many people (myself included) have with the never ending attempts to make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to obtain firearms is that the reasoning always given by politicians is that they are trying to "keep guns out of the hands of criminals" when the laws we already have do that. What needs to be done is to more vigorously enforce the laws that are already on the books.
 
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You completely misread (or inferred a meaning based on your own misconceptions) to the OP. The gun trade IS a multi billion dollar business for CRIMINALS. Nowhere in that statement is it even implied that gun manufacturers are allowed to sell firearms to criminals (they can't).

Every state and federal law all prohibit the sale of firearms to convicted felons. Every state and federal law requires gun dealers (manufacturers provide to wholesalers who then proved legal FFL dealers) perform a background check prior to the transfer of a firearm.

Criminal gun trade is just that, ILLEGAL. Criminals gain the weapons for that trade through theft or via straw purchases (paying someone who isn't a convict to purchase a firearm for you) which is...........



wait for it........







ILLEGAL.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for a felon to LEGALLY obtain or possess a firearm.

The issue that many people (myself included) have with the never ending attempts to make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to obtain firearms is that the reasoning always given by politicians is that they are trying to "keep guns out of the hands of criminals" when the laws we already have do that. What needs to be done is to more vigorously enforce the laws that are already on the books.
No, the gun trade is a two hundred billion dollar business for the gun
manufacturer's that sell them.
 

Blade

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I agree with Charlton heston once said about GUNS! I would have said it a tad different.

But the word of God... the believer has no clue who they are. The promises God gave to us. Countless stories of people braking in.. trying to rob.. then out of no where.. get so scared.. and run away. Finding out later.. those two huge guys with you.. yet..you were alone :)

It is faith.. knowing His word..knowing your rights in Christ Jesus..through Him.
 

KJV1611

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The gun trade is a multi billion dollar business for criminals. Should the government take away my right to bear arms so only the "bad guys" have guns?
That’s the plan. Look at Israel in the Old Testament, the Philistines took all the weapons from the Jews. When Gods people turn rotten then judgement follows.

And not only are they going to take our guns but they are also going to disband the police force or at least they are saying that they want to. We are in for very very hard times. I think a lot people are about to die.
 

KJV1611

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There's more of us than them, so let them try if they are that foolish.
There may be more of us than them but they have the Chinese and Russian armies along with the UN and they also have over one million drones standing ready to take out whoever stands against them.
 
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There may be more of us than them but they have the Chinese and Russian armies along with the UN and they also have over one million drones standing ready to take out whoever stands against them.
Are you talking about Trump because there is no American that would alien with Russia.