Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 19.8%
  • Never

    Votes: 78 59.5%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 27 20.6%

  • Total voters
    131

Fundamental

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I am complying with the order of my Governor and he is not Satan.
While I believe this virus is overblown, so is this mask and vaccine thing.
I don't like wearing seat belts but it is the law and as a Christian I will abide with the law as long as it does not interfere with my Worship. My local church has not missed a single Sunday meeting .
Getting shot with a pharmakia brew is very unchristian. Why would we not heal ourselves in His name, rather then take a shot making son of men richer and more powerful?

Why do we have to take a vaccin so they can carry on with business as usual which is our fallen nature? Is that a long term solution you think? Or is it just waiting for the next one to arise which might be a virus with a much higher mortality rate?

I am not christian, I am trying to be christian. Every cell in my core is shouting at me: don’t take the vaccin. It is an effect of a cause. If they don’t change the cause it’s effect has no use. It might even get worse over the long period of time.
It is my right to refuse the vaccin and maintain my rights.
 

Fundamental

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As far as those who really believe their irrational theories, I would rather attribute most cases to lack of information from real life, real world experience, so that they find things plausible that aren't because they do not understand how things really work. Once they were to work in the corporations they think are corrupt they would change their view. If they were to work for the CDC, or FDA, or as an immunologist or a virologist for a few years they would be embarrassed at the things they used to think. I am going to think the best of people until I have evidence for something more sinister.

What I have learned from this world wide crisis and all the chatter that has sprung up as a result, especially among my own church members, is not to let it cause us to be unkind or condescending toward those who believe things that we think are crazy talk. We have to be patient and extend kindness and pray for unity in the body of Christ. We have to be the examples that demonstrate that we are dressed in full armor and know the wiles of the enemy and how he would try to get Christians to act hateful toward one another over a disagreement about a vaccine. This must not stand. We have to lead during this time of chaos and demonstrate how to get along about the important things that bind us such as the Gospel message and reaching the lost. Like changing the subject when the strife seems imminent and talking about the real heart issues that we should be about instead.
Why has every virologist on national tv worldwide been seeding confusion? “Masks works, masks don’t work, corona is less worse then the flu, corona is worse then the flu.” They’ve been changing their mantra to the script politicians handed out to them. So why would anyone take them serious?
Why would an honest virologist refuse to take a test if he er she has taken hydroxychloroquine?

If they’d just be honest and not kiss communist asses we’d live in a different world. People are so eager to talk about Hitler but are blind for the Hitlers in this age. China arrests political enemies, places them on trains to re educate them while using them as workforce. Most we buy is made in China polluting our earth with cheap inkt and other goodies making our children sicker generation after generation.

If nobody is going to speak about this but let them dragonders use their draconian methods on us we wont be saved. You can’t think we’d gain the world from our ways where every solution creates an even worse reaction decades later.

We are over populated as species because we won’t change the way we live. If we don’t change the way we live we’ll be gone like all lost civilizations before us. We look with astonishment back. I think the future generations will look a bit different at this generation. We must not stand up? I beg to differ.
 
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If I can’t travel without vaccin it is force. We just need to look at China to see what’s heading to the west. Western people are not that easy surpressed and need to be fed with fears or hate before justifying about anything. Wether it’s war or mandatory vaccination. In Belgium we already have 1 mandatory vaccin, I’m affraid corona will be the second.


Having read it again I might have replied to soon yesterday. I’m sorry for my earlier reaction @ev4989 . It just seemed to me you were hoping for a cure. Which will be the vaccin. After decades of science they still have no cure for the flu and the vaccins are not that effective as they say they are. Might even create worse reactions in the body. Bad reactions those vaccine manifactures of course know nothing about.
We are already past that. They have at least two vaccines that work and are in 3 phase testing to insure safety. They even produce the T Cell response that tells them that it will create the antibody long after the initial immune boost fades. Google Moderna mRNA vaccine
 

Fundamental

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#84
We are already past that. They have at least two vaccines that work and are in 3 phase testing to insure safety. They even produce the T Cell response that tells them that it will create the antibody long after the initial immune boost fades. Google Moderna mRNA vaccine
There can never be one universal vaccin without any side effects when used on 8 billion people. I am aware of RNA en DNA vaccins.They are new and no long term effects of them are known.
We already know how they tried to shove everything underneath the table when current vaccines go wrong. So thanks but no thanks. My body my choice.
 

Just_Jo

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#86
No,I will not.
As a matter of fact I'm not taking my regular yearly flu shot bc it may be tampered with this season.
 

DWR

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Getting shot with a pharmakia brew is very unchristian. Why would we not heal ourselves in His name, rather then take a shot making son of men richer and more powerful?

Why do we have to take a vaccin so they can carry on with business as usual which is our fallen nature? Is that a long term solution you think? Or is it just waiting for the next one to arise which might be a virus with a much higher mortality rate?

I am not christian, I am trying to be christian. Every cell in my core is shouting at me: don’t take the vaccin. It is an effect of a cause. If they don’t change the cause it’s effect has no use. It might even get worse over the long period of time.
It is my right to refuse the vaccin and maintain my rights.
I suppose you never go to the doctor or take medication when your are sick.

We have a church member with liver cancer that is scheduled for surgery next month at the Mayo Clinic.
Should she not take advantage of the skill and knowledge of those doctors?
You are right. It is your right to refuse the vaccine. It is also my right to take it without your condemning me.

I get so tired of this foolish talk and condemning others for exercising their right to take all steps offered to stay healthy.
 

tourist

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#88
With Bill Gates and Fauci on the loose -- safe and effective???? (n)

The whole idea is to make UNSAFE AND INEFFECTIVE vaccines for the poor slobs who will believe everything coming from on high. Check out Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s crusade against bogus vaccines. And Trump was supposed to have him on board, and then ignored him.
Yeah, no vaccine from Bill Gates reprogramming my DNA. Dr. Fauci has had his 15 minutes and needs to vacate the White House.
 

ev4989

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#89
Yeah, no vaccine from Bill Gates reprogramming my DNA. Dr. Fauci has had his 15 minutes and needts to vacate the White House.
Well, we will see how Dr. Fauci does once Mr Trump is out of office.
 

Fundamental

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#90
I suppose you never go to the doctor or take medication when your are sick.

We have a church member with liver cancer that is scheduled for surgery next month at the Mayo Clinic.
Should she not take advantage of the skill and knowledge of those doctors?
You are right. It is your right to refuse the vaccine. It is also my right to take it without your condemning me.

I get so tired of this foolish talk and condemning others for exercising their right to take all steps offered to stay healthy.
I had corona, I cured. So why would I need a vaccine? If they have a cure for cancer, people are still allowed to deny the cure.

And no, I don’t have a doctor anymore and it is commonly known I refuse treatment for some diseases. The way they got their medication is anti Christian. Coronavaccins are tested unchristian too. My body my choice.

I don’t condemn you taking it, I condemn those forcing it unto others. It is all stockmarket related.
 

Nehemiah6

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Well, we will see how Dr. Fauci does once Mr Trump is out of office.
So you are eagerly looking forward to the destruction of American with the ouster of Trump? I believe you called yourself a patriotic American, but any Democrat in the White house (especially a wicked witch) will make sure that America is destroyed, the Constitution is shredded, the flag is burned, and the national anthem is perverted. It is already happening.

As to Fauci (Dr. Death), he should be held directly responsible (along with his co-conspirators) for mass murder (or wrongful deaths), or whatever legal term applies. The FDA is still blocking the use of HCQ, while Trump stands by. Fauci was an ardent admirer of Hillary Clinton, so how come he ended up on Trump's Task Force?

One of Josef Mengele's survivors said this: “I have never accepted that Mengele believed he was doing serious medical work.…He was exercising power." This fits Fauci, Birx, Redfield, Hahn, etc. to a T. Nazi Mengele was called "the Angel of Death'.
 
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So you are eagerly looking forward to the destruction of American with the ouster of Trump? I believe you called yourself a patriotic American, but any Democrat in the White house (especially a wicked witch) will make sure that America is destroyed, the Constitution is shredded, the flag is burned, and the national anthem is perverted. It is already happening.

As to Fauci (Dr. Death), he should be held directly responsible (along with his co-conspirators) for mass murder (or wrongful deaths), or whatever legal term applies. The FDA is still blocking the use of HCQ, while Trump stands by. Fauci was an ardent admirer of Hillary Clinton, so how come he ended up on Trump's Task Force?

One of Josef Mengele's survivors said this: “I have never accepted that Mengele believed he was doing serious medical work.…He was exercising power." This fits Fauci, Birx, Redfield, Hahn, etc. to a T. Nazi Mengele was called "the Angel of Death'.
Correct me if I am wrong (I am sure someone will :) ) Doctors can still administer HCQ if they chose to do so can't they? I don't think the FDAs ruling bans them from using it at their own discretion. A Hospital patient is not banned from getting the medication and no one is dying because they cannot get it. People are still getting it. Some are still dying anyway and some are swearing that it brought them back from the brink of death. These reports are still coming in daily.
 

Dude653

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#93
So you are eagerly looking forward to the destruction of American with the ouster of Trump? I believe you called yourself a patriotic American, but any Democrat in the White house (especially a wicked witch) will make sure that America is destroyed, the Constitution is shredded, the flag is burned, and the national anthem is perverted. It is already happening.

As to Fauci (Dr. Death), he should be held directly responsible (along with his co-conspirators) for mass murder (or wrongful deaths), or whatever legal term applies. The FDA is still blocking the use of HCQ, while Trump stands by. Fauci was an ardent admirer of Hillary Clinton, so how come he ended up on Trump's Task Force?

One of Josef Mengele's survivors said this: “I have never accepted that Mengele believed he was doing serious medical work.…He was exercising power." This fits Fauci, Birx, Redfield, Hahn, etc. to a T. Nazi Mengele was called "the Angel of Death'.
Uhhhh...no... None of these things you mentioned have happened
 

Moses_Young

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Uhhhh...no... None of these things you mentioned have happened
Can you be more specific? Your post makes absolutely no sense. What has not happened that was mentioned? And if you're talking about the destruction of America, even you are surely not so foolish as to believe it was to happen the same day as the post?
 

J-T

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#95
I am getting very concerned that christians are supporting mandatory masking and vaccines. This is terrifying, you know both are from Satan , right? And so is this hoax? This virus is to help setup the new world order via the UN and the WHO. I wouldn't trust either as far as I could throw them, and yet here we have christians obeying Satan. That to be frank is terrifying.
Gregory, I agree with you 100%!! The reality is that many in the Churches today are slumbering, as we are witnessing the great falling away from the faith. The lukewarm Laodicean Church is poor, blind, and naked because they don't have Jesus Christ, and as a result are become indotrinated with the wisdom of this world rather than the wisdom of God. Many Churches have been overtaken by wolves in sheepskins; the false teachers (Freemasons) that have crept in unawares.

I read another post, where you mentioned your concern about the Socialists that have become intigrated into the U.S. Government. They are not only in the U.S. Govt., but as you are aware, they are also in the Australian Govt., and other Governments world-wide as the Illuminati is making it firm push to usurp final authority away from Christians for the ushering in of their "New World Order", of which we know will become the Great Tribulation once the man of sin, the Antichrist is revealed. It is apparent that the world is on the verge of being taken captive, and they are using the C-19 as their tool to frighten the masses into submission as they impliment Fascism-Socialism-Communism. I want to encourage you with the words of The Lord from three passages (each to be read in full context);
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2Th 2:1-5 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

Mat 24:6-7 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

1Th 5:1-6 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

1Th 5:7-11 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
 

J-T

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#96
Personally I think that imagining that the virus is a hoax, masks and vaccines are all part of an group of evil planners, to establish a New World Order via the UN and the Who is an irrational world view. Do you think that most would be able to see your point of view or that most would worry about your mental state? Why would you be surprised that most are not going to agree with you?
Pro 6:9-11 How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

Eze 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.


Rev 3:14-17 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Rev 3:18-22 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
 
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Pro 6:9-11 How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

Eze 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.


Rev 3:14-17 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Rev 3:18-22 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Thse churhces have the blind leading the blind, hence so many lost souls. They are looking at an eternity in the lake of fire if they keep this up. My landlord was a catholic, and started up his own religion , took some friends with him, and built a church/temple at his expense. They do declare they are followers of Jesus, but his doctrine is far from correct. There doctrine AFAIK :
1/ There are no more prophets, the last prophets came out of the new testament
2/ There is no anti christ per se, its the world that is mans idol
3/ Nudity is a detestable and shameful thing, and it shows the depravity of mankind
4/ The virus is real, things will get better as we have fine governments here, Trump, Boris Johnson, Scott Morrison, Macron from France etc, all placed there by the Lord to keep the world stable
5/ They preach prosperity theology
There is probably much more but I stopped listening. I also played them this to teach them the truth about prosperity theology, they were offended by it and walked away form the iPad!
 
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I also have been following the Lord and the backpack philosophy since childhood BTW
 

ev4989

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He will fade into obscurity.
I believe that if Mr. Trump loses by a big enough margin, He will definitely fade away into the night. As far as Dr. Fauci. most Americans still trust in him.