The real mark of the Beast

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Gideon300

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In all the debate over vaccination, a much more insidious disease has been creeping over the world. It's not new. It is increasing in virulence and becoming more widespread. Immunity is difficult but not impossible. However, immunity has the opposite risk factor to vaccinations aginst other diseases. The risk is isolation, deprivation, intimidation, and in some instances, death.

Some of you may recognise this disease. It is Political Correctness. Recently, a well known, even notorious Australian Christian approached a very large corporation, seeking a donation for the ministry of her church. The ministry is for help for the poor and needy. She was rejected, not because the corporation did not agree with the work, but because the woman was vocally opposed to same sex marriage.

The time may well come when in order to function in society, people will have to conform to the prevailing societal norms. At present, these include gender selection, addressing people by whatever pronoun they choose, agreeing that any sexual preference is acceptable, that whites are the cause of all black problems, that the present generation is responsible for all the evils of the past and so on.

If people refuse to sign up to these conditions, they will be unable to work, receive government assistance, health care, run a business or any of the activities that we consider normal. Such people will be treated like social lepers. At some stage, the world will agree that the not-PC people are a burden on society and should be killed.

This is already happening in North Korea. Any dissent from the ruling party's policies is punishable by exile or death. China is not as extreme but not that far behind. Authoritarianism is on the rise and there is little opposition. What there is gets suppressed very quickly.

The Beast may not be outwardly in control. We are seeing more and more that the spirit of the Beast is rising up, enabled by the complacency and lethargy of the church. I personally believe that the true church will be raptured before the great tribulation begins. Why? Because true Christians have authority and power over Satan here on this earth. Once they have been caught up, there will be no opposition to Satan.

For nominal Christians, the choice will be stark. Go God's way and be killed or submit to the Beast and join him in the lake of fire. My preference is not to have to face that choice. Every knee will bow to Lord Jesus, willingly and lovingly, or by terrified necessity. How much better to choose Christ now, and not face the wrath of God in the future.
 
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In all the debate over vaccination, a much more insidious disease has been creeping over the world. It's not new. It is increasing in virulence and becoming more widespread. Immunity is difficult but not impossible. However, immunity has the opposite risk factor to vaccinations aginst other diseases. The risk is isolation, deprivation, intimidation, and in some instances, death.

Some of you may recognise this disease. It is Political Correctness. Recently, a well known, even notorious Australian Christian approached a very large corporation, seeking a donation for the ministry of her church. The ministry is for help for the poor and needy. She was rejected, not because the corporation did not agree with the work, but because the woman was vocally opposed to same sex marriage.

The time may well come when in order to function in society, people will have to conform to the prevailing societal norms. At present, these include gender selection, addressing people by whatever pronoun they choose, agreeing that any sexual preference is acceptable, that whites are the cause of all black problems, that the present generation is responsible for all the evils of the past and so on.

If people refuse to sign up to these conditions, they will be unable to work, receive government assistance, health care, run a business or any of the activities that we consider normal. Such people will be treated like social lepers. At some stage, the world will agree that the not-PC people are a burden on society and should be killed.

This is already happening in North Korea. Any dissent from the ruling party's policies is punishable by exile or death. China is not as extreme but not that far behind. Authoritarianism is on the rise and there is little opposition. What there is gets suppressed very quickly.

The Beast may not be outwardly in control. We are seeing more and more that the spirit of the Beast is rising up, enabled by the complacency and lethargy of the church. I personally believe that the true church will be raptured before the great tribulation begins. Why? Because true Christians have authority and power over Satan here on this earth. Once they have been caught up, there will be no opposition to Satan.

For nominal Christians, the choice will be stark. Go God's way and be killed or submit to the Beast and join him in the lake of fire. My preference is not to have to face that choice. Every knee will bow to Lord Jesus, willingly and lovingly, or by terrified necessity. How much better to choose Christ now, and not face the wrath of God in the future.
There are 2 different seal/mark and they are both spiritual.

-The Seal of the Holy Spirit of promise that is only given to God's elects (Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 4:30; II Corinthians 1:21-22; II Timothy 2:19, Revelation 7:3-4)

-Only nonelects will receive mark of the beast.
 

gb9

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the vax is not the mark.

it is a training tool for the mark, getting people used to the idea of having to do something , take something to be a part of everyday society...
 

Gideon300

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There are 2 different seal/mark and they are both spiritual.

-The Seal of the Holy Spirit of promise that is only given to God's elects (Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 4:30; II Corinthians 1:21-22; II Timothy 2:19, Revelation 7:3-4)

I don't get your point. I know numbers of people who are Christian in name only. They know about Jesus but they do not know Him. And knowing Jesus is the definition of eternal life. Those people will be faced with a choice. Do they worship the Beast and take or turn to Jesus and accept the consequences.
 
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In all the debate over vaccination, a much more insidious disease has been creeping over the world. It's not new. It is increasing in virulence and becoming more widespread. Immunity is difficult but not impossible. However, immunity has the opposite risk factor to vaccinations aginst other diseases. The risk is isolation, deprivation, intimidation, and in some instances, death.

Some of you may recognise this disease. It is Political Correctness. Recently, a well known, even notorious Australian Christian approached a very large corporation, seeking a donation for the ministry of her church. The ministry is for help for the poor and needy. She was rejected, not because the corporation did not agree with the work, but because the woman was vocally opposed to same sex marriage.

The time may well come when in order to function in society, people will have to conform to the prevailing societal norms. At present, these include gender selection, addressing people by whatever pronoun they choose, agreeing that any sexual preference is acceptable, that whites are the cause of all black problems, that the present generation is responsible for all the evils of the past and so on.

If people refuse to sign up to these conditions, they will be unable to work, receive government assistance, health care, run a business or any of the activities that we consider normal. Such people will be treated like social lepers. At some stage, the world will agree that the not-PC people are a burden on society and should be killed.

This is already happening in North Korea. Any dissent from the ruling party's policies is punishable by exile or death. China is not as extreme but not that far behind. Authoritarianism is on the rise and there is little opposition. What there is gets suppressed very quickly.

The Beast may not be outwardly in control. We are seeing more and more that the spirit of the Beast is rising up, enabled by the complacency and lethargy of the church. I personally believe that the true church will be raptured before the great tribulation begins. Why? Because true Christians have authority and power over Satan here on this earth. Once they have been caught up, there will be no opposition to Satan.

For nominal Christians, the choice will be stark. Go God's way and be killed or submit to the Beast and join him in the lake of fire. My preference is not to have to face that choice. Every knee will bow to Lord Jesus, willingly and lovingly, or by terrified necessity. How much better to choose Christ now, and not face the wrath of God in the future.
Yes absolutely and they are achieving it though identity politics. Politics are more than just an ideology now, they're an identity. By making party-identity inseparable from self-identity, they are able to effectively control people and push the margins of platitudes of acceptance any way they want and those who don't confirm are "canceled." It's just fascism repackaged and rebranded as "political correctness."

The danger in this is that the government, corporations, and various other institutions are deciding for everyone what is correct and what is not correct. Political correctness has caught on so much that it's now an ever-growing thread in the fabric of society and is inseparable from everything from eating at a restaurant to going to school.
 
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Oblio

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Society is so corrupt that I see returning to how things were as a pipe dream. People will get more and more corrupt and the beast agenda will advance. I will continue to speak the words the Lord gives me to say and do what He gives me to do. The last day of my life will come, Lord willing I will honor Him courageously, and then I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
However...I can see a wave on the horizon...it's growing larger, it's getting nearer...oh can't you see it straight ahead...I can see a wave...the harvest wave!
 

Blain

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The vaccine is not the mark though some who clearly do not know their bibles claim it is, however have you ever seen the movie divergent? if not the run down is people take test that cotagorize them into four different social groups the divergents do not fit into any one group and killed for it at the near end of the movie there is chip inserted into people that makes them obedient soldiers.
GroWing up I loved the books and movies but when I became a Christian I saw the movie again and got a completely different understanding of it.

The way society is being divided now is the four groups of people in different catagories divergents are Christians who don't fit into the worlds social government and they will be killed for it that chip inserted that makes them mindless obedient soldiers is going to be how the mark works. Do you think it odd that dna altering is a thing now? have you ever studied how dna can pretty much control everything including the brain? wait and see when the mark comes it will not merely be a vaccination and will not be just a thing to buy and sell with it will completely take the person over
 

ZNP

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All money has the seal of that country or those leaders. Considering the US dollar we have George Washington, a Free Mason on the front and the seal of the illuminati with the all seeing eye on the back.

At the time of the Lord it had the seal and superscription of Caesar. Benjamin Franklin is on the hundred and he also was a member of the illuminati.

This is a precursor to the mark of the beast. According to the illuminati they view humans as beasts of burden the same way you might view cattle. The mark of the beast brands those cattle so you know who they belong to. Jesus is the great shepherd, these are the evil shepherds. If you are lame or broken or damaged the Lord will heal you. These will call you a useless eater and exterminate you.

They put their seal on you the same way they have put their seal on money. They view you as slaves and their wealth is based on how many slaves they have. You become a real asset in the same way that land and other resources are real assets.

Killing people is simply a means to an end. Hitler and Stalin had no issue with killing millions. The goal is not your welfare or a just and equitable society, the goal is that they are in power. As long as they are at the top of the pyramid everything else is simply the cost of getting there.
 

Lanolin

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when you have a ministry you dont go round publically begging for money. Of course people will reject you when you do that.

You ask God for all the resources and He provides.
 

Aidan1

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There are 2 different seal/mark and they are both spiritual.

-The Seal of the Holy Spirit of promise that is only given to God's elects (Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 4:30; II Corinthians 1:21-22; II Timothy 2:19, Revelation 7:3-4)

-Only nonelects will receive mark of the beast.
You forget the sealed 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel. In revealation 7,4.
 
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the vax is not the mark.

it is a training tool for the mark, getting people used to the idea of having to do something , take something to be a part of everyday society...
It is impossible for the mark of the beast to be physical because there is also seal of the Holy Spirit which is spiritual. Obvious Satan is a counterfeiter, so I am guessing mark of the beast is spirit of antichrist which is given to all nonelects. Jesus only paid the price for God's elect, not the nonelect.
 

Nehemiah6

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the vax is not the mark. it is a training tool for the mark, getting people used to the idea of having to do something , take something to be a part of everyday society...
That's right. This is called "conditioning". Softening up people and destroying their resistance to totalitarianism, racism, anarchism, stupidity, and tyranny at every level. When grown up adults walk around in fresh air and sunshine with their stupid masks (muzzles?) on their faces, you know that rationality has gone out the window. When German police literally walk around with rulers in their hands during a demonstration -- in order to measure social distancing -- one knows that insanity has taken hold of the world.

While the OP is correct about the virus of political correctness which has now mutated into "Wokeism", the other virus which has infected probably 99.9% of the globe is the DEMON OF FEAR. Fear-mongering was the real driving force of the bogus pandemic, and an eminent epidemiologist has publicly stated this. Fear can literally kill people, but no one has any statistics on those who are suffering from anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts (as well as actually committing suicide or dying from fearfulness) because of COVID Tyranny.

The average death rate in the West for coronavirus was only about 0.05% (5 deaths in a population of 10,000) but everything was deliberately blown out of proportion to generate fear and panic and ensure that everyone was injected with lethal and toxic cocktails from Hell. That is what the vaccine mandates are all about. Thus the mandate for the Mark will go out and everyone will line up for it.

From the Christian perspective this is all a work of Satan whose agenda is to steal, kill, and destroy, and prepare the world for the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition.
 
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That's right. This is called "conditioning". Softening up people and destroying their resistance to totalitarianism, racism, anarchism, stupidity, and tyranny at every level. When grown up adults walk around in fresh air and sunshine with their stupid masks (muzzles?) on their faces, you know that rationality has gone out the window. When German police literally walk around with rulers in their hands during a demonstration -- in order to measure social distancing -- one knows that insanity has taken hold of the world.

While the OP is correct about the virus of political correctness which has now mutated into "Wokeism", the other virus which has infected probably 99.9% of the globe is the DEMON OF FEAR. Fear-mongering was the real driving force of the bogus pandemic, and an eminent epidemiologist has publicly stated this. Fear can literally kill people, but no one has any statistics on those who are suffering from anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts (as well as actually committing suicide or dying from fearfulness) because of COVID Tyranny.

The average death rate in the West for coronavirus was only about 0.05% (5 deaths in a population of 10,000) but everything was deliberately blown out of proportion to generate fear and panic and ensure that everyone was injected with lethal and toxic cocktails from Hell. That is what the vaccine mandates are all about. Thus the mandate for the Mark will go out and everyone will line up for it.

From the Christian perspective this is all a work of Satan whose agenda is to steal, kill, and destroy, and prepare the world for the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition.
Fear and confusion are the weapons that Satan and his demons use.

2 Timothy 1:7

King James Version

7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.


1 Corinthians 14:33

King James Version

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
 

Aidan1

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That's right. This is called "conditioning". Softening up people and destroying their resistance to totalitarianism, racism, anarchism, stupidity, and tyranny at every level. When grown up adults walk around in fresh air and sunshine with their stupid masks (muzzles?) on their faces, you know that rationality has gone out the window. When German police literally walk around with rulers in their hands during a demonstration -- in order to measure social distancing -- one knows that insanity has taken hold of the world.

While the OP is correct about the virus of political correctness which has now mutated into "Wokeism", the other virus which has infected probably 99.9% of the globe is the DEMON OF FEAR. Fear-mongering was the real driving force of the bogus pandemic, and an eminent epidemiologist has publicly stated this. Fear can literally kill people, but no one has any statistics on those who are suffering from anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts (as well as actually committing suicide or dying from fearfulness) because of COVID Tyranny.

The average death rate in the West for coronavirus was only about 0.05% (5 deaths in a population of 10,000) but everything was deliberately blown out of proportion to generate fear and panic and ensure that everyone was injected with lethal and toxic cocktails from Hell. That is what the vaccine mandates are all about. Thus the mandate for the Mark will go out and everyone will line up for it.

From the Christian perspective this is all a work of Satan whose agenda is to steal, kill, and destroy, and prepare the world for the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition.
You ever asked yourself if Satan is uesing you as a tool for to spread such a nonsense?
 

Nehemiah6

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You ever asked yourself if Satan is uesing you as a tool for to spread such a nonsense?
The one who has been spouting nonsense all along is you. And since Satan is behind this attack on humanity, that nullifies your idea.
 

Aidan1

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The one who has been spouting nonsense all along is you. And since Satan is behind this attack on humanity, that nullifies your idea.
Ok, lets the Lord have the last word. He will judge us about what we are spreading.
 

PennEd

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It is impossible for the mark of the beast to be physical because there is also seal of the Holy Spirit which is spiritual. Obvious Satan is a counterfeiter, so I am guessing mark of the beast is spirit of antichrist which is given to all nonelects. Jesus only paid the price for God's elect, not the nonelect.
It is indeed spiritual, but it ABSOLUTELY is also physical:


Revelation 16:2
New King James Version



First Bowl: Loathsome Sores
2 So the first went and poured out his bowl upon the earth, and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.