The Trump Dictatorship

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This is a Christian web site and you ignore the fact that Trump is a committed Christian going to a Presbyterian church. Therefore he is Reformed in his Christian beliefs. What kind of a Christian are you to talk about another Christian like this. He is also the president of the country and deserves the respect from all Christians according to the Bible talking about those put in place by God over us. Hang your head in shame!!

This goes for all pseudo Christians ranting against Trump. It is one thing to disagree with specific policies but the bitter fallacious ad hominem attacks are beyond the pale on a Christian web site. So are you a Christian or not? If yes justify your diatribe against Trump Biblically!!
 

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NO NO NO He is a whoremonger caught on tape taking about what power he has over women to grab them and do as he pleases to them. Trump is the most non christian president we have ever had in america. and the thread is a political thread please read what the thread is about.
As Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." With the figurative stones you are casting you must be sinless. There are 613 laws in the Torah. Jesus stated if you sin in the least of them it is as though you are guilty of them all! Have you ever violated any of them?

In addition to the 10 commandments there are the laws scattered through the Torah.

List of the 613 laws in the Torah
http://www.gods-word-first.org/bible-study/613commandments.html

Discussion about the 613 laws in the Torah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments
 

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5 minute rule again
Trump is a committed Christian and president of the United States. As such he is placed over us by God!! Your vitriolic diatribe is very anti Biblical as well as intellectually dishonest! You rant like a far leftwing progressive. Most progressives are atheists. Therefore if you are a Christian you need to bridle your tongue. So are you saved by grace through faith in Jesus or not?
 

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5 minute rule again
Trump is a committed Christian and president of the United States. As such he is placed over us by God!! Your vitriolic diatribe is very anti Biblical as well as intellectually dishonest! You rant like a far leftwing progressive. Most progressives are atheists. Therefore if you are a Christian you need to bridle your tongue. So are you saved by grace through faith in Jesus or not?
Not my president maybe been place over you not me he is wicked and a racist pig
 

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Not my president maybe been place over you not me he is wicked and a racist pig
Your far leftwing progressive idiocy comes through loud and clear. You have absolutely no say about him not being your president unless you live outside of the United States and its territories. You reject the Bible stating God places people over us. Therefore we are to give them the respect that God wishes for us to give the one He put over us. You say this on a Christian site.

Romans 13 AMPC
1 Let every person be loyally subject to the governing (civil) authorities. For there is no authority except from God [by His permission, His sanction], and those that exist do so by God’s appointment.
2 Therefore he who resists and sets himself up against the authorities resists what God has appointed and arranged [in divine order]. And those who resist will bring down judgment upon themselves [receiving the penalty due them].
3 For civil authorities are not a terror to [people of] good conduct, but to [those of] bad behavior. Would you have no dread of him who is in authority? Then do what is right and you will receive his approval and commendation.
4 For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, [you should dread him and] be afraid, for he does not bear and wear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant to execute His wrath (punishment, vengeance) on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God’s wrath and escape punishment, but also as a matter of principle and for the sake of conscience.
6 For this same reason you pay taxes, for [the civil authorities] are official servants under God, devoting themselves to attending to this very service.
7 Render to all men their dues. [Pay] taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, and honor to whom honor is due.
 

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Pray to God for forgiveness for your attitude about who God placed over you.
 

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God placed Trump in office. If this is true, then did God place Obama in office?
 

calibob

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tourist,

Are you trying to put me in a box that is labeled democrat, green party, or moderate, or something?

You can put me in the box that says Christian. You are a Christian right? Then we are in the same box.

I am loyal to love.

When I see lies, hate, fear, and confusion, they are my enemy. I fight with the Holy Love Spirit and the gospel.

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These men and women who say that they love Jesus and the ways of righteousness,

But then they lie and perpetuate a lie, cause confusion, division, unwarranted fear, tear Christian families apart at the border, and fail to defend the nation and our allies, this is not the Holy Spirit of love that reaches out to the world and says, hear is love, hear is truth, here is freedom, here is the Spirit of Jesus. Here is food and water for the spirit.

Their ways will end in more lies, sin, and in the end, death. Maybe a war started because someone said something that Trump didn't like. He just gets mad and attacks Iran, or .............

Trump is a dictator and will never stop spreading the seeds of confusion, lies, and hate along with the far rite.

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And think about this, After you give Trump all power of a dictator, who will rule after he departs?

A democrat?

Trump Jr.?

Bannon?
Maybe the DEVIL!
 

abcdef

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Lol, srry man but no one is buying the idea that the right wing christians brainwash people. The average american can tell a snake oil salesman when they smell one and the public overwhelmingly accepts the tabloid status of the LSM. The only one listening to brain washing is the ignorant sheep of the left who have to be told what to think since it goes contrary to logic and reason. Which side supports killing kids? Which side believes in socialism? Which side beleieves in 72 genders? Which side believes in macroevolution? Which side believes in athiest principles and values supperceding christian values? Which side believes in christian freedom as opposed to pagan slavery? And you call yourself a christian? The only side that NEEDS to brainwash people is the side who stands against common sense at every turn.
This is a typical right wing extremist troll.

Notice how anyone who disagrees with him is framed as a left wing gay communist etc.. His motive is to divide us from the person who sits next to us in church. Maybe that person is a democrat or even worse, votes for the green party ha ha.

(Be sure to Vote, No matter how you Vote, Please do Vote. There are other issues to be voted on also, state and local.)

For this person there is no middle ground. His enemy is anyone who disagrees with him.

If you do disagree, then he tries to bully you, degrade you, instead of reasoning and discussing.

A good example of this is Sen John McCain. A POW hero, a republican, and a long time proven public servant. What happened when he disagreed with the Trump cult? They turned on him, called him a fake republican and liberal after many years of service to the nation and the republican party. Yes, they turned on an American hero and degraded him like so many others. And the cult cheers.

That is the pattern. Notice how it happens to all the Trump supporters. They are "great people", until they disagree with Trump, then they turn into enemies, regardless of their previous standing. So anyone who disagrees with Trump is an enemy of the state (free press, free speech).

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calibob

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This is a typical right wing extremist troll.

Notice how anyone who disagrees with him is framed as a left wing gay communist etc.. His motive is to divide us from the person who sits next to us in church. Maybe that person is a democrat or even worse, votes for the green party ha ha.

(Be sure to Vote, No matter how you Vote, Please do Vote. There are other issues to be voted on also, state and local.)

For this person there is no middle ground. His enemy is anyone who disagrees with him.

If you do disagree, then he tries to bully you, degrade you, instead of reasoning and discussing.

A good example of this is Sen John McCain. A POW hero, a republican, and a long time proven public servant. What happened when he disagreed with the Trump cult? They turned on him, called him a fake republican and liberal after many years of service to the nation and the republican party. Yes, they turned on an American hero and degraded him like so many others. And the cult cheers.

That is the pattern. Notice how it happens to all the Trump supporters. They are "great people", until they disagree with Trump, then they turn into enemies, regardless of their previous standing. So anyone who disagrees with Trump is an enemy of the state (free press, free speech).

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How come nobody seems to fight to stay in the middle of the road any more? Our system was not designed to be a zero sum game. What ever happened to comprimise??
 

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This is a typical right wing extremist troll.

Notice how anyone who disagrees with him is framed as a left wing gay communist etc.. His motive is to divide us from the person who sits next to us in church. Maybe that person is a democrat or even worse, votes for the green party ha ha.

(Be sure to Vote, No matter how you Vote, Please do Vote. There are other issues to be voted on also, state and local.)

For this person there is no middle ground. His enemy is anyone who disagrees with him.

If you do disagree, then he tries to bully you, degrade you, instead of reasoning and discussing.

A good example of this is Sen John McCain. A POW hero, a republican, and a long time proven public servant. What happened when he disagreed with the Trump cult? They turned on him, called him a fake republican and liberal after many years of service to the nation and the republican party. Yes, they turned on an American hero and degraded him like so many others. And the cult cheers.

That is the pattern. Notice how it happens to all the Trump supporters. They are "great people", until they disagree with Trump, then they turn into enemies, regardless of their previous standing. So anyone who disagrees with Trump is an enemy of the state (free press, free speech).

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You ignore the fact this is a Christian site. This diatribe goes against what the Bible tells Christians. We are to be subservient and respectful to those who God places over us. All of those in governing positions are put there by God. Therefore you are going against what the Bible tells us to do. Respect and submit to those placed over us by God.
 

calibob

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You ignore the fact this is a Christian site. This diatribe goes against what the Bible tells Christians. We are to be subservient and respectful to those who God places over us. All of those in governing positions are put there by God. Therefore you are going against what the Bible tells us to do. Respect and submit to those placed over us by God.
So was David sinning when he rebeled against King Saul?
 

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Dont be naive. Abortion. If u are a christian then you believe it is murder, regardless of the pubishment(which shld be left to the states). Do u believe it is murder?
Abortion is a sin and is murder. But should NOT be illegal.

What do you personally think that the punishment should be?

What does the Bible say that the punishment for murder is? Death? Death by stoning? Is that what you are saying? Start obeying the Bible and start stoning the women who have abortions or miscarriages?


If not then you dont belong here.
You don't decide if I am a Christian or not, that is up to Jesus. And it is not a requirement to be a Christian to post here. It is not up to you.


Gods word is not subject to your feelings.
To those who have shown no mercy, no mercy will be shown.


If trump were innocent why would he need protecting? Is ur head in the sand? Dont be naive. Many innocent people are destroyed by our corrupt justice system. Of course he needs to be protected from a leftist deep state. That goes without saying.
The investigation is into a Russian spy ring that tried to influence the election, not Trump. Why would Trump want to stop the investigation into a Russian spy Ring? As president, he should be supporting the investigation. Unless, he has something to hide.


Why does he continue to call it a which hunt if he is innocent? 🤣🤣🤣 Because thats the very definition of a witch hunt!
Even you agree that the Russians interfered. Why would Trump be afraid of a investigation into the Russian spy ring interference?


Again, show me on the doll where trumps WORDS hurt you. Srry but most americans care less about what trump says publiclly to putin
Every time he lies, he drags the name of Jesus and Christian through the mud.

Trump cult troll: it doesn't matter what Trump says, if he lies everyday to the American people, it's OK. If it was anybody else, they would be screaming, but since it is Trump, it's OK to lie. A good "Christian" example.


and more about the fact that his admin has been tougher on russia than past prezes.
How old are you? You can't be that old or you would remember the wars that have been fought between the Russian supported nations and American supported nations.


We know for a fact that, as usual, the russians failed in their usual attempts at meddling, no votes affected,
It is only a fact in your mind.


trump has a mandate from the people.
Trump has no mandate form the people. The election was too close to call it a mandate.


(Remembers, minus dead and illegals trump won the popular vote)
False. You have used the figure of 3,000,000 dead or illegal votes.

3 mill divided by 50 states means an average of 60,000 votes cast by dead or illegals per state.

The elections are all run locally by republicans, independents, and democrats etc..

So you are accusing all the local residents who run the elections as fraudulent.

I think that those local authorities would notice 60, 000 extra votes.

Besides that, since the election accusations, the roles have been examined. There were no 60,000 extra votes per state.


Trump is the peoples champion
In your mind.


and is championing christianity.
After Trump's example, people may never want another "Christian" president.

Maybe he is a Christian like Czar Putin is a Christian. Czar Putin goes to church, and holds the candle. Then he invades Georgia, Croatia and Ukraine, kills thousands of people, enslaves thousands of men, women and children, and takes their land.

Yes, Trump could be a Christian like Czar Putin is a Christian.


Your statments show that you support niether.
No, I just don't agree with everything that you say.

Troll: If you don't agree with him, you are not a Christian, no middle ground.


But its ok. We will continue to educate you and hold your hand as the truth slowly...SLOWLY...sinks into the collective leftist hive mind.
Troll: If you don't agree with every thing that he says, you are a leftist. Remember that the trolls job is to divide by extremism.


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You ignore the fact this is a Christian site. This diatribe goes against what the Bible tells Christians. We are to be subservient and respectful to those who God places over us. All of those in governing positions are put there by God. Therefore you are going against what the Bible tells us to do. Respect and submit to those placed over us by God.
Was Hitler put in charge by God? We should obey Hitler and kill all the Jews?

Was the Bishop of Rome put in place by God? That we should kill all non-RCC?

Was Stalin put in place by God to starve millions of Ukrainians? We should support those who do such things?

So God approves of evil dictators, and we should obey them?


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So was David sinning when he rebeled against King Saul?
You ignore that David was anointed to be king. God had pronounced judgement on him. David waited a long time before rebelling. He tried to be subsurvient to Saul but Saul kept trying to kill him because the people held him in higher esteem.

Why do you try to tell something that isn't true!!
 

abcdef

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How come nobody seems to fight to stay in the middle of the road any more? Our system was not designed to be a zero sum game. What ever happened to comprimise??
Reasonable people who love their neighbor will compromise, reason out their differences.

Egotism will not allow that.

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calibob

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Trump may be innocent but only due to his insanity. His ego and narcissism blinded him to the fact he was pimped by Putin and the one worlders. Closing our ports and borders, becoming isolationistic is what they want us to do! Stalin said it.
 

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This is a Christian site not a political site. You ignore the fact that Trump is a committed Christian going to a Presbyterian church. Your diatribe against a fellow Christian on a Christian web site is disgusting and anti Biblical. You ignore what Jesus told a group about to stone a prostitute. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." So are you sinless?
I hear that Obama and Hillary both have great rock collections, and have built houses from all the stones that the extremist right has thrown.
 

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What does the Bible say??

Romans 13 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)
13 Let every person be loyally subject to the governing (civil) authorities. For there is no authority except from God [by His permission, His sanction], and those that exist do so by God’s appointment.
2 Therefore he who resists and sets himself up against the authorities resists what God has appointed and arranged [in divine order]. And those who resist will bring down judgment upon themselves [receiving the penalty due them].
3 For civil authorities are not a terror to [people of] good conduct, but to [those of] bad behavior. Would you have no dread of him who is in authority? Then do what is right and you will receive his approval and commendation.
4 For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, [you should dread him and] be afraid, for he does not bear and wear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant to execute His wrath (punishment, vengeance) on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God’s wrath and escape punishment, but also as a matter of principle and for the sake of conscience.