The TYRANNY of COVID-19 masks

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May 29, 2019
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ugh, this is getting so old!!! Everywhere you look it's covid this, mask that........
I'd love to say I'm sick of this already, but rather I have to say I WAS sick FROM this.
And I did faithfully wear a mask, wash my hands as soon as a sink and soap was available, used hand sanitizer after leaving stores (so much so that I had to carry lotion with me b/c my hands were getting to dry from the sanitizer)
I have to admit it was hell to quarantine, especially during the middle of anasty divorce, but guess what!?
I recovered and I'm still here!!!!
But I still question just how the hell did I get sick when I followed all the rules from the get go?
 

GaryA

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One woman infected 56 patrons at a Starbucks in Korea.

https://bgr.com/2020/08/25/coronavirus-news-today-starbucks-outbreak-wear-face-masks/

Not a single employee was infected. Why? They were wearing masks.
Since when did the 'official' story - that wearing a mask might be somewhat helpful in protecting others but would do very little for the person wearing a mask (making the reason to wear a mask to protect others) - change to lifting up any mask-wearer to the level of a 'hero' that "saves the day" just by simply wearing a mask?

What was the woman supposed to do - drink her coffee through her mask???

Absurd. :rolleyes:

Do you see how this type of propaganda works by appealing to the emotions to cover up the fact that it makes no sense at all?

Did any of those 56 people die? Or even show any symptoms?

Do you see how this stuff promotes fear without fact?
 

Fundamental

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But I still question just how the hell did I get sick when I followed all the rules from the get go?
It was most likely contracted by bringing in products in home. The virus lasts longer on surfaces in bacteria.
 
May 29, 2019
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It was most likely contracted by bringing in products in home. The virus lasts longer on surfaces in bacteria.
dunno......
I've been SUPER careful. Let my mail and packages sit for 3-5 days before opening, changed clothes when getting home, sprayed and disinfected my shoes, disinfected items brought in (yeah I went that far, disinfecting cans and boxed foods, )
Dunno, maybe the over doing actually caused more harm than good.
maybe I was careless somewhere along the way
 
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EleventhHour

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Do you really think what you said in the first quoted statement is unmistakable fact?

Is it not true that - "the more it spreads" - the less need there is to contain it?

Is that not how Herd Immunity works?

If/After it is sufficiently widespread, 'contain' is no longer the 'optimal' word; rather, 'protect' is.

It is - or, would be - better to let it "run its course" and 'protect' the feeble while allowing the other 99.99% to develop herd immunity while suffering no damage.

Some people want everyone to get a vaccine (by force, if necessary?) so as to develop herd immunity.

Why not trust God and the Natural Immunity that He put into every human body???

(Admittedly, it does not work as well for some folks as it does for others - but, that is a different - albeit related - issue. Nonetheless, ...)

No vaccine will ever be as good as what God did - period.

And - that is a fact! :cool:

Your "scientific logic" is flawed.

Your ad hominem approach is silly but amusing... :p:rolleyes::giggle:

And - I am not "threatened" by any of your "facts" in the slightest.

Have a nice day! :)
I made no mention of herd immunity.

What I wrote was..... "the more it spreads the harder it is to contain" ...... period.
 
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ugh, this is getting so old!!! Everywhere you look it's covid this, mask that........
I'd love to say I'm sick of this already, but rather I have to say I WAS sick FROM this.
And I did faithfully wear a mask, wash my hands as soon as a sink and soap was available, used hand sanitizer after leaving stores (so much so that I had to carry lotion with me b/c my hands were getting to dry from the sanitizer)
I have to admit it was hell to quarantine, especially during the middle of anasty divorce, but guess what!?
I recovered and I'm still here!!!!
But I still question just how the hell did I get sick when I followed all the rules from the get go?
Mask protects others from you it does not protect you from others....the social distancing is what protects you.....it is air borne.
 
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Most doctors did not even know what was in vaccines they shot in their patients. They simply repeat what they heard “it is safe and effective”. But things go wrong. You can not have a universal vaccin for 8 billion people. Any honest doctor will tell you that.
I am not saying patients know more about medical practices then doctors. But they do know their own body better and dare to question mainstream.
A doctor questioning corona is playing with his or her carreer now. They lie to maintain position.

That is a general statement hard to know if true.

The doctors I know know what is in a vaccine.

Question what part....whether it is real or some effect of 5G nonsense?
 
Feb 28, 2016
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I remember being in the darkened room, but I must have had a mild case, no lasting effect that I know of. I'm 61, have tried to find out what all I was given without much luck. I remember lining up for the sugar cube.

Do you know what that shot was that made a circular scar on the upper arm? All my siblings have that, I do not, was always curious what that one was.

Regan was in office when the bill passed, taking away the rights of victims to pursue damages from the vaccine companies. I used to lean conservative but have realized they all play their part and not in our best interest.
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KARR,
it was for sure the 'POLIO' vaccine - it was, back then, called the 'SALK' vaccine - hub and I still have the scar to prove it..
 
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KARR,
it was for sure the 'POLIO' vaccine - it was, back then, called the 'SALK' vaccine - hub and I still have the scar to prove it..
Thanks for the reply, now I know. Forgot to mention, my husband does not have the scar either, and all his siblings do. Go figure?
 

Fundamental

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That is a general statement hard to know if true.

The doctors I know know what is in a vaccine.

Question what part....whether it is real or some effect of 5G nonsense?
What is the relation with 5G in this? I was only talking about vaccines.
When I “studied” this topic and changed from pro vaxxer to anti vaxxer, I was confronted with many concerned parents that questioned their doctors. They asked if he knew that there was “a bad ingredient I forgot its name” was in the vaccine? Many did not.

Doctors got visits from pharmaceutical companies that sell meds and they negotiate. There is a blind trust in medicines we sell today as “safe and effective” but are clearly not over the long period of time. These researches are forced underneath the carpet to be never spoken off. Mothers and fathers who see their child change dramaticly after a vaccine gone wrong are forced into silence and have no right of answers.
They are simply left in the cold.

Whatever the case may be, mandatory vaccination should be looked at again in transparacy with more independent researchers. Why is it only governmental scientists get the last word in the media? This selection proces on what is defined as mainstream is taking notice in the world.

95 procent of the people I know were never confronted with corona. Those other 5 got isolated until cured and did cure. What is all this fuzz about then? If there is a vaccine for the elderly and other weakened immunesystems, go ahead if they want. Just don’t force that stuff on my household or we will be having a big problem.
 
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What is the relation with 5G in this? I was only talking about vaccines.
When I “studied” this topic and changed from pro vaxxer to anti vaxxer, I was confronted with many concerned parents that questioned their doctors. They asked if he knew that there was “a bad ingredient I forgot its name” was in the vaccine? Many did not.

Doctors got visits from pharmaceutical companies that sell meds and they negotiate. There is a blind trust in medicines we sell today as “safe and effective” but are clearly not over the long period of time. These researches are forced underneath the carpet to be never spoken off. Mothers and fathers who see their child change dramaticly after a vaccine gone wrong are forced into silence and have no right of answers.
They are simply left in the cold.

Whatever the case may be, mandatory vaccination should be looked at again in transparacy with more independent researchers. Why is it only governmental scientists get the last word in the media? This selection proces on what is defined as mainstream is taking notice in the world.

95 procent of the people I know were never confronted with corona. Those other 5 got isolated until cured and did cure. What is all this fuzz about then? If there is a vaccine for the elderly and other weakened immunesystems, go ahead if they want. Just don’t force that stuff on my household or we will be having a big problem.
It has nothing to do with 5G... agree.
Let us not conflate different topics vaccines and Covid -19, two different things.
 

Fundamental

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It has nothing to do with 5G... agree.
Let us not conflate different topics vaccines and Covid -19, two different things.
5G and vaccines are a different thing, however that is open for debate.
But vaccines and covid19 are very related. Whenever our TV reminds us about the “new normal” or the return to “normal”; it is always followed up by vaccination riddles.

Those having been too political correct to stop this pandemic at its core should not come with any solution. They must respect voters in majority and resign or be replaced. Simple as that.
 
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5G and vaccines are a different thing, however that is open for debate.
But vaccines and covid19 are very related. Whenever our TV reminds us about the “new normal” or the return to “normal”; it is always followed up by vaccination riddles.

Those having been too political correct to stop this pandemic at its core should not come with any solution. They must respect voters in majority and resign or be replaced. Simple as that.
Tell me how does one stop this pandemic at its core?
 

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KARR,
it was for sure the 'POLIO' vaccine - it was, back then, called the 'SALK' vaccine - hub and I still have the scar to prove it..
I still have the scar too.
 

Fundamental

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Tell me how does one stop this pandemic at its core?
By listening to other experts which aren’t under governmental control but speak freely without restraint.
When SARS emerged virologists around the world were concerned that one would ever mutate in such a way that it would be more easily transferable from human to human. Sars was not, sarscov2/covid19 is.
They said one day we will have a pandemic and labeled this as “diseaseX”. This was roughly 20 years ago.

There were beginning 2019 clear and loud signals dripping out of China a new virus was spreading from Wuhan. Travel restrictions were not to be spoken off and many politicians chose to ignore these signals placing the economy and good position with China first.

If they took the signals serious we would not had a shortage in masks and they would have enforced travel restrictions on people coming out of Asia. This was not done for the economy but is now done for months in a row.

We don’t need vaccination but we need to look what is causing this viruses to mutate from animal to human. If we only vaccinate and remain with business as asual only more deadly viruses will come at us.
 

Billyd

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KARR,
it was for sure the 'POLIO' vaccine - it was, back then, called the 'SALK' vaccine - hub and I still have the scar to prove it..

The scar is more likely from the smallpox vaccine. It was administered by putting a drop of vaccine on the arm, and scratching the skin. It was actually live cowpox.

The Salk vaccine was a shot in the arm. Later an improved oral vaccine.