Trump - puppet or savior?

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Trump - puppet or savior?


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KJV1611

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I've heard many people including my parents say "God sent Trump to save America".

I've always said he's a puppet doing the bidding of the elite.... his handling of the Coronavirus proves that in my opinion.

What do you think, is Trump a puppet or a savior?
 
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I voted Neither. Jesus is the savior, so Trump is not the savior. On the other hand Trump is certainly no puppet, he proves constantly that the so-called elites cannot control him because he doesn't really need their money and he enjoys destroying their egos on twitter habitually. Trump is the elected representative of the citizens of the United States of America, and he performs this job quite well.
 

KJV1611

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I voted Neither. Jesus is the savior, so Trump is not the savior. On the other hand Trump is certainly no puppet, he proves constantly that the so-called elites cannot control him because he doesn't really need their money and he enjoys destroying their egos on twitter habitually. Trump is the elected representative of the citizens of the United States of America, and he performs this job quite well.
The way I see it, by all of this mass hysteria over a flu bug, shutting businesses down, crippling the economy spending a trillion dollars on bailouts and stimulus... I don't think he's got our best interest in mind.

Just like 911, we will never be the same after all of this.
 
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The way I see it, by all of this mass hysteria over a flu bug, shutting businesses down, crippling the economy spending a trillion dollars on bailouts and stimulus... I don't think he's got our best interest in mind.

Just like 911, we will never be the same after all of this.
I think Trump has handled the coronavirus outbreak well for what he can do about it. It may indeed be an overblown event, but since the virus is new and there is a certain quality of the unknown with it, it is sage to err on the side of caution and take steps to try to slow down or shut down the spread.

As for the stimulus spending, I think it is smart to make up for some of the lost productivity due to the virus and the panic. I have also seen Trump is replenishing our strategic oil reserve also while the prices are low. This I think to be very prudent. As my representative in government he is doing what I want the government to do in its capacity as a government. So I am satisfied with his job performance.
 

bojack

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I've heard many people including my parents say "God sent Trump to save America".

I've always said he's a puppet doing the bidding of the elite.... his handling of the Coronavirus proves that in my opinion.

What do you think, is Trump a puppet or a savior?
I think Trump was chosen by God after years of prayer for America .. His personality is perfect to withstand all the ridiculous attacks he's endured and I think he's been prepared through his life .. His calling is no more important than any ones calling ..
 

KJV1611

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I think Trump has handled the coronavirus outbreak well for what he can do about it. It may indeed be an overblown event, but since the virus is new and there is a certain quality of the unknown with it, it is sage to err on the side of caution and take steps to try to slow down or shut down the spread.

As for the stimulus spending, I think it is smart to make up for some of the lost productivity due to the virus and the panic. I have also seen Trump is replenishing our strategic oil reserve also while the prices are low. This I think to be very prudent. As my representative in government he is doing what I want the government to do in its capacity as a government. So I am satisfied with his job performance.
Do you think the Coronavirus is more lethal than a regular flu?
 

KJV1611

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I think Trump was chosen by God after years of prayer for America .. His personality is perfect to withstand all the ridiculous attacks he's endured and I think he's been prepared through his life .. His calling is no more important than any ones calling ..
Do you agree with the massive business disruptions and government spending?
 

bojack

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Do you agree with the massive business disruptions and government spending?
Normally I'd be against it .. I think there's much more going on than most realize ..
 

bojack

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What else do you think is going on?
There's a You Tuber ''X 22 report'' who I saw the last day or 2 that Trump is preparing to take down the Federal Reserve and fiat currency .. It is all about taking down the NWO , imo that is his calling .. I think the CV virus was meant to cause panic by the deep state more than pandemic and Trump keeps beating them at their own game time after time for 3 yrs .. I've had a ball watching it and I think Jesus is leading Trump .. My faith is in Jesus not Trump but I like him a lot ..
 

KJV1611

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There's a You Tuber ''X 22 report'' who I saw the last day or 2 that Trump is preparing to take down the Federal Reserve and fiat currency .. It is all about taking down the NWO , imo that is his calling .. I think the CV virus was meant to cause panic by the deep state more than pandemic and Trump keeps beating them at their own game time after time for 3 yrs .. I've had a ball watching it and I think Jesus is leading Trump .. My faith is in Jesus not Trump but I like him a lot ..
I probably didn't word the post right, I'm not suggesting that people put their faith in Trump like they would Jesus lol. I guess I'm saying did God send Trump in to take us down or restore us.

I agree that the deep state is more about panic because from what I've seen, this is no different than any other flu virus, maybe more contagious I guess, but certainly not worth the extreme measures being taken.

That's an interesting theory about taking down the Federal Reserve, although it's kind of odd that the NWO is creating the panic and drastic measures and Trump is onboard with it.
 

KJV1611

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Well that's the thing with it, that quality of the unknown I mentioned. No one knows yet.
Devastating the economy, ruining peoples live financially and 1 trillion dollars of new debt (probably much more to come) over a "maybe".
 
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Yes, if we can believe what is going on is truth. I assume it to be truth. I am a retired R.N. of 22 years. When I hear "We have a shortage of ventilators" it sends alarm bells off to me. This is the most serious form of life support. If you need a ventilator that bad, then you are seriously ill.
 

Runningman

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I've always said he's a puppet doing the bidding of the elite
Maybe, maybe not. I do find it hard to believe that the powers the be would hand over the office of the commander in chief to any ole Joe Schmoe who rose up from the populace and won the electoral college. Therefore I can only conclude that people who run for president are probably groomed for it as part of a long term agenda.

At the same time it's counterintuitive that a president who opposes the elite's agenda could somehow be supporting it simultaneously. The word that comes to mind here is what is known as controlled opposition which is just a strategy used to covertly control or influence the publicly stated purpose of a movement.

The amount of coordination required to make this look convincing would be impressive and would indicated a corruption so deeply embedded that suggesting this would only draw on accusations of being a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.

So I'm of the mindset that what we are seeing is highly dramatized, but it's ultimately all real. So Trump is neither.
 
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Devastating the economy, ruining peoples live financially and 1 trillion dollars of new debt (probably much more to come) over a "maybe".
Yes that's the risk they decided to take and it may turn out that the virus is not as bad as some worry about. The other risk was doing nothing and seeing if the virus would spread farther and faster and being more lethal than expected. Tough choices have to be made sometimes. We'll see the results either way.
 

KJV1611

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Maybe, maybe not. I do find it hard to believe that the powers the be would hand over the office of the commander in chief to any ole Joe Schmoe who rose up from the populace and won the electoral college. Therefore I can only conclude that people who run for president are probably groomed for it as part of a long term agenda.

At the same time it's counterintuitive that a president who opposes the elite's agenda could somehow be supporting it simultaneously. The word that comes to mind here is what is known as controlled opposition which is just a strategy used to covertly control or influence the publicly stated purpose of a movement.

The amount of coordination required to make this look convincing would be impressive and would indicated a corruption so deeply embedded that suggesting this would only draw on accusations of being a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.

So I'm of the mindset that what we are seeing is highly dramatized, but it's ultimately all real. So Trump is neither.
I think God could put a man in the oval office contrary to the wishes of the elite, but what I don't see in Trump is evidence of that, especially right now. He is as much a part of this as all the rest.

He's not standing against all of these intrusive and destructive measures being put in place. From what I see, again especially through this Coronavirus "crisis", he is perfectly aligned to the NWO agenda.
 

KJV1611

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Yes that's the risk they decided to take and it may turn out that the virus is not as bad as some worry about. The other risk was doing nothing and seeing if the virus would spread farther and faster and being more lethal than expected. Tough choices have to be made sometimes. We'll see the results either way.
Would you be ok with Trump setting curfews and quarantining people to their homes? Would be ok with marshal law? I'm not judging anyone, I just want to see where God's people stand on this, especially how long they will support Trump's actions.
 

bojack

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I probably didn't word the post right, I'm not suggesting that people put their faith in Trump like they would Jesus lol. I guess I'm saying did God send Trump in to take us down or restore us.

I agree that the deep state is more about panic because from what I've seen, this is no different than any other flu virus, maybe more contagious I guess, but certainly not worth the extreme measures being taken.

That's an interesting theory about taking down the Federal Reserve, although it's kind of odd that the NWO is creating the panic and drastic measures and Trump is onboard with it.
I know you didn't suggest that bro .. God Bless , My posts tend to be direct and to the point to use as few words as possible .. lol