Ukraine the bad guy?

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and do you know what the people of today also praise God befor they cut somebodies head off there called dictators.
1 Samuel 17:26
26 And David spake to the men that stood by him, saying, What shall be done to the man that killeth this Philistine, and taketh away the reproach from Israel? for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?



Praise Jesus for he is the Rock that will bring the wicked giant Russia down, PRAISE JESUS!

 

Fundaamental

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Then you have heard from Russia and not God. Therefore will I post material proving God fights against wicked Russia and that God is triumphing. Not just militarily by strengthening the Heroes, lest the Heroes forget to praise Jesus, But take a wider view, see how God is destroying Russia on all levels possible. On a whole as a spiritual principality, down to the personal levelof their wicked commanders and leaders turning them against eachother like when Gideon witnessed God destroy the invading army of the Midianites. Though it was good those faithful Heroes showed up to fight God's enemies, don't forget that it was God who won the war, an active God, a lively God that himself fights and is strong. PRAISE JESUS.


It's a common way to Judge with the wrath of God from a old testament war to justify a war for today. But I tell you now God won't be to happy people promoting war this way.

So many people do it but however your doing it without sound evidence that Russia are completely at fault.

Because let's be honest your going of what the social media is saying.

That's the only evidence you have. You don't have the thousands of documents delivered to the United Nations.

Which none of it has been proven yet

There's also many claims from Russia that alot of terroist attack are happening in Ukraine that isn't anything to do with them

Have you watched the documentary that america welcomed the war yet.

Could you watch that documentary with the same bias you have to believing social media evidence is credible ?.
 
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It's a common way to Judge with the wrath of God from a old testament war to justify a war for today. But I tell you now God won't be to happy people promoting war this way.

So many people do it but however your doing it without sound evidence that Russia are completely at fault.

Because let's be honest your going of what the social media is saying.

That's the only evidence you have. You don't have the thousands of documents delivered to the United Nations.

Which none of it has been proven yet

There's also many claims from Russia that alot of terroist attack are happening in Ukraine that isn't anything to do with them

Have you watched the documentary that america welcomed the war yet.

Could you watch that documentary with the same bias you have to believing social media evidence is credible ?.
What more evidence do you need? Russia started the war. That alone says a lot. Russia started the war with lies, and with the lies they shall die, and the God of Truth will be victorious and we hide it not, but openly PRAISE JESUS.

 

Fundaamental

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What more evidence do you need? Russia started the war. That alone says a lot. Russia started the war with lies, and with the lies they shall die, and the God of Truth will be victorious and we hide it not, but openly PRAISE JESUS.

and your basing those lies to be true based on a social media that' are biased.

As all social medias are biased when it comes to defending there own country.

Even you could be set up as a fall guy by our social media and the social media can quite easily demonize a person or nation or faith


And your even prepared to kill people yourself without seeing for yourself both written evidence from Russia claiming innocence and Ukraine claiming innocence first hand, you know the written evidence that has been delivered to the United Nations.
 
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and your basing those lies to be true based on a social media that' are biased.

As all social medias are biased when it comes to defending there own country.

Even you could be set up as a fall guy by our social media and the social media can quite easily demonize a person or nation or faith


And your even prepared to kill people yourself without seeing for yourself both written evidence from Russia claiming innocence and Ukraine claiming innocence first hand, you know the written evidence that has been delivered to the United Nations.
Are you ignorant of Russia's lies and therefore is why cannot distinguish between the Truth and Lies? Or do you intentionally try to make excuses here for Wicked Russia knowing that indeed they have lied the entire time? Russia lied when they said they would not invade while the CIA raised the warning alarm. Russia lied when they attacked Kiev and said they were not waging war but a 3 day special military operation. Russia lied about taking massive casualties. Russia lied about having to do a draft, special partial mobilization. Russia lied about Nordstream and trying to freeze Europe to death. Russia is lying now in the Spring with their wicked humanitarian disaster attack blowing up the Kakhovka Dam. Russia lies about everything in between, it has become their defining theme. Don't worry though it takes a lot of time to learn them all, Russia has lied so much and gone so deep into Satan's service that there is plenty of material to be curated and plenty of evidence. However since it is obvious you only seek to defend Satan's side and the wicked no matter what I say then just go ahead and defend Satan's side if you are so determined to do such it won't bring them victory against the Living God, their doom is for certain. As for me, I'm not going to stop praising Jesus for defending the good guys and the Heroes and heralding the dawn of his victory against these wicked liars of Russia. death to all of God's enemies, PRAISE JESUS!


 

Fundaamental

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Are you ignorant of Russia's lies and therefore is why cannot distinguish between the Truth and Lies? Or do you intentionally try to make excuses here for Wicked Russia knowing that indeed they have lied the entire time? Russia lied when they said they would not invade while the CIA raised the warning alarm. Russia lied when they attacked Kiev and said they were not waging war but a 3 day special military operation. Russia lied about taking massive casualties. Russia lied about having to do a draft, special partial mobilization. Russia lied about Nordstream and trying to freeze Europe to death. Russia is lying now in the Spring with their wicked humanitarian disaster attack blowing up the Kakhovka Dam. Russia lies about everything in between, it has become their defining theme. Don't worry though it takes a lot of time to learn them all, Russia has lied so much and gone so deep into Satan's service that there is plenty of material to be curated and plenty of evidence. However since it is obvious you only seek to defend Satan's side and the wicked no matter what I say then just go ahead and defend Satan's side if you are so determined to do such it won't bring them victory against the Living God, their doom is for certain. As for me, I'm not going to stop praising Jesus for defending the good guys and the Heroes and heralding the dawn of his victory against these wicked liars of Russia. death to all of God's enemies, PRAISE JESUS!


I'm not ignorant but I have got a mind that won't pass Judgement untill i have weighed up all the evidence.
But I won't support war in our world for any leader as there all corrupt


Social media is corrupt, and drenched in sin to.

From the top to the bottom.

To free lance reporters to the paparazzi to selling stories to gain a profit.

Even going as far as ruining a person life, knowing that by time they've made there millions seeling there papers with there latest lie, the compensation they know they will have to pay to there victims will still leave them in profit, so they go ahead and print the story regardless.

Then they all claim to be patriotic for there country.

They condem the rich but get payed huge amount of money them selfs, in fact every single government acts the same way in politics, they cut each other up to get in power. ( A treacherous cut throat business with people swaying for blood all over the world.)

Have you payed any attention to Ukraine pushing for all out war against Russia by claiming Russia bombed Poland when it wasn't proven ?.

No your bias wont let you, because your the Wrath Of God type..

Besides there all in it together all bad as each other.

Ukraine have been at war with Russia for 10 years or more, it was always going to escalate one day.

Infact lets be honest Russia could of wiped Ukraine out years ago.
 

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On Ukraine; The Euro-maidan revolution was too shady; and that anyone skeptical of the mainstream narrative is instantly branded a Putin supporter; and that anyone who wants fiscal accountability for Ukraine aid is considered a Russian propagandist- that alone tells me I should be even more skeptical. The whole situation appears to be designed specifically to start war between the US and Russia; and approaching the situation recklessly with a presumptuous sense of moral superiority just because Russia is breaking the UN rules is stupid; because I think the UN war doctrines fail to reflect God's intent and providence- they are only man's failed attempt (or feigned attempt) at world-peace.

On wars in general; obviously God's intent for man was not for us to be killing each other, so in that sense, I don't think he has ever really 'approved' of war (as if it were something great), but it comes about in part as a result of man's wickedness, and in part to fulfill the requirements of Genesis 9, so in that sense it is 'approved' in the case where it fulfills an obligation/requirement.

While I recognize the legitimacy of civil government (per scriptures like Romans 13 and Jesus' dialog with Pilate) I think as Christians we can definitely learn from Paul and ask "is it lawful for you to...?" and scrutinize... not necessarily "demand", but we can be assertive in pressing the government on the legitimacy of what they are doing. "are you sure this is right?", "why are you doing this?"... and if they're lying or wrong, feel at liberty to tell them "you're wrong".

But without a prophet saying so, I could not say that God has not had a hand in wars, or fulfilled his purposes via warfare in the last thousands of years. I definitely don't believe that a saying about a "smite on the cheek" is properly applied to allow armies of wicked men to destroy your family and homeland and whatnot.
 

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Ukraine counteroffensive


Obliterated
 

Fundaamental

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On Ukraine; The Euro-maidan revolution was too shady; and that anyone skeptical of the mainstream narrative is instantly branded a Putin supporter; and that anyone who wants fiscal accountability for Ukraine aid is considered a Russian propagandist- that alone tells me I should be even more skeptical. The whole situation appears to be designed specifically to start war between the US and Russia; and approaching the situation recklessly with a presumptuous sense of moral superiority just because Russia is breaking the UN rules is stupid; because I think the UN war doctrines fail to reflect God's intent and providence- they are only man's failed attempt (or feigned attempt) at world-peace.

On wars in general; obviously God's intent for man was not for us to be killing each other, so in that sense, I don't think he has ever really 'approved' of war (as if it were something great), but it comes about in part as a result of man's wickedness, and in part to fulfill the requirements of Genesis 9, so in that sense it is 'approved' in the case where it fulfills an obligation/requirement.

While I recognize the legitimacy of civil government (per scriptures like Romans 13 and Jesus' dialog with Pilate) I think as Christians we can definitely learn from Paul and ask "is it lawful for you to...?" and scrutinize... not necessarily "demand", but we can be assertive in pressing the government on the legitimacy of what they are doing. "are you sure this is right?", "why are you doing this?"... and if they're lying or wrong, feel at liberty to tell them "you're wrong".

But without a prophet saying so, I could not say that God has not had a hand in wars, or fulfilled his purposes via warfare in the last thousands of years. I definitely don't believe that a saying about a "smite on the cheek" is properly applied to allow armies of wicked men to destroy your family and homeland and whatnot.
Right so just to confirm you can't make a decision as to whether God has approved any war for the last 2000 years.
 

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Are you ignorant of Russia's lies and therefore is why cannot distinguish between the Truth and Lies? Or do you intentionally try to make excuses here for Wicked Russia knowing that indeed they have lied the entire time? Russia lied when they said they would not invade while the CIA raised the warning alarm. Russia lied when they attacked Kiev and said they were not waging war but a 3 day special military operation. Russia lied about taking massive casualties. Russia lied about having to do a draft, special partial mobilization. Russia lied about Nordstream and trying to freeze Europe to death. Russia is lying now in the Spring with their wicked humanitarian disaster attack blowing up the Kakhovka Dam. Russia lies about everything in between, it has become their defining theme. Don't worry though it takes a lot of time to learn them all, Russia has lied so much and gone so deep into Satan's service that there is plenty of material to be curated and plenty of evidence. However since it is obvious you only seek to defend Satan's side and the wicked no matter what I say then just go ahead and defend Satan's side if you are so determined to do such it won't bring them victory against the Living God, their doom is for certain. As for me, I'm not going to stop praising Jesus for defending the good guys and the Heroes and heralding the dawn of his victory against these wicked liars of Russia. death to all of God's enemies, PRAISE JESUS!


Russia lies. Yes they do. Its just amazing and incredible.
 

ZNP

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Jesus is Lord. This war in Ukraine is taking place under the Lord's sovereignty. It is not up to Putin or Zelensky. Get on your knees, pray, and the Lord will deliver you one way or the other.

Neither Zelensky or Putin or Biden or any of the other major players is a servant of the Lord Jesus. They are pawns that are being moved about to accomplish the Lord's will. That will first and foremost is that all men would be saved and come to the knowledge of Jesus Christ. War is a very effective tool at getting people to humble themselves and repent.

However, the Lord's will also includes dealing with sin on this earth and this war will ultimately result in the death and destruction of the Satanic worldly system.

Now is your best chance to repent and turn to the Lord. But know this, the world is on a canoe heading for the falls and we were told this 2,000 years ago and we are now much, much closer to going over those falls than we were back then.
 

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Right so just to confirm you can't make a decision as to whether God has approved any war for the last 2000 years.
What I meant there in the last paragraph was, if there was a governing authority waging war to fulfill a biblical requirement; then it would take a prophet to prove that what the government was doing was not approved- because otherwise, that is government doing it's job.
 

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