Vaccine is killing more people than covid

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The mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among “those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination.”

“This scary picture also extends to those below 65,” the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process “0.05%, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate.”

As the country reopens after a two-month lockdown, the green pass would be given only to those who had been injected, not to people who tested negative for the virus. The proposed benefits include access to “non-essential” businesses as well as not being required to self-isolate if identified as a close contact of a confirmed case of COVID-19, and not having to self-isolate after a return from what the government calls a “red location.”

Despite there being no proof that these experimental vaccines actually prevent transmission of the virus, Israel’s minister for health, Yuli Edelstein, said upon the release of the vaccine “passport” that “(g)etting vaccinated is a moral duty. It is part of our mutual responsibility.” He went further, declaring, “Whoever does not get vaccinated will be left behind.”

The green pass needs renewing every six months, and despite holding one, an individual must still abide by masking and physical distancing rules. The Jerusalem Post also reported that legislation is being considered to grant employers the right to refuse unvaccinated people entry into the workplace.

Such measures prompted Business Insider to describe the country as “waging a war on the unvaccinated.” Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, has styled Israel’s vaccination response as “extraordinarily good.”
 

Roughsoul1991

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Link to the source ...Vaccine is killing more people than covid

The mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among “those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination.”

“This scary picture also extends to those below 65,” the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process “0.05%, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate.”

As the country reopens after a two-month lockdown, the green pass would be given only to those who had been injected, not to people who tested negative for the virus. The proposed benefits include access to “non-essential” businesses as well as not being required to self-isolate if identified as a close contact of a confirmed case of COVID-19, and not having to self-isolate after a return from what the government calls a “red location.”

Despite there being no proof that these experimental vaccines actually prevent transmission of the virus, Israel’s minister for health, Yuli Edelstein, said upon the release of the vaccine “passport” that “(g)etting vaccinated is a moral duty. It is part of our mutual responsibility.” He went further, declaring, “Whoever does not get vaccinated will be left behind.”

The green pass needs renewing every six months, and despite holding one, an individual must still abide by masking and physical distancing rules. The Jerusalem Post also reported that legislation is being considered to grant employers the right to refuse unvaccinated people entry into the workplace.

Such measures prompted Business Insider to describe the country as “waging a war on the unvaccinated.” Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, has styled Israel’s vaccination response as “extraordinarily good.”
Many at my job are getting vaccinated but I'm not. I'll wait to see the long term effectiveness. How well it holds up to prevent it. I'm praying Trump will be reelected and we can finally start to go back to normal. Can not live in fear forever.
 
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Many at my job are getting vaccinated but I'm not. I'll wait to see the long term effectiveness. How well it holds up to prevent it. I'm praying Trump will be reelected and we can finally start to go back to normal. Can not live in fear forever.
I reckon Trump was just a distraction... He had more than enough time and evidence to drain the swamp.

Then he turned and funded big pharma to produce this experimental DNA treatment...
Trump is in on the whole scam...

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Nehemiah6

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Many at my job are getting vaccinated but I'm not. I'll wait to see the long term effectiveness.
There is no need to wait and see. Bogus vaccines will remain bogus, and a menace to everyone. The billions of dollars from these useless vaccines were what prompted all the conspirators to attack HCQ, Ivermectin, etc. which are not only cheap but very effective. But the other reason was to INCREASE the death rate from COVID, and attribute any and all deaths to COVID. in order to create fear and panic. Now all of a sudden the seasonal flu has disappeared but COVID reigns supreme. Do you get the picture? It's become so easy to deceive billions, its like stealing candy from a baby.

 
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There is no need to wait and see. Bogus vaccines will remain bogus, and a menace to everyone. The billions of dollars from these useless vaccines were what prompted all the conspirators to attack HCQ, Ivermectin, etc. which are not only cheap but very effective. But the other reason was to INCREASE the death rate from COVID, and attribute any and all deaths to COVID. in order to create fear and panic. Now all of a sudden the seasonal flu has disappeared but COVID reigns supreme. Do you get the picture? It's become so easy to deceive billions, its like stealing candy from a baby.

Its been so frustrating to witness everyone just hand over everything out of fear...

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I find it very interesting that Israel was the country to dive into it and vaccinate the most people... Very interesting indeed...

How much do u know about the cult of Baal? One of Satans demons? The bull with the horns and his mistress Asherah.
The Canaanites worshipped them as Gods of fertility giving up offerings of live humans and babies.

Well... The cult is alive and well today... Not only that but many of the elite are in it and there is a huge people-smuggling racket to feed their sick offerings... Epstein was just the tip of the iceberg... And that cult hates the Jews the most, swore revenge on them...

Also, the rise of the cult of Baal seems like it may coincide with one of the beasts and the mark. Its still kept fairly secret but I'm wondering how long until they reveal it... Now there is a push to teach Satanism to our school kids claiming that they should learn about all religions without prejudice... That gold statue that is mentioned, could it be of Baal... Only time will tell
 

Roughsoul1991

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There is no need to wait and see. Bogus vaccines will remain bogus, and a menace to everyone. The billions of dollars from these useless vaccines were what prompted all the conspirators to attack HCQ, Ivermectin, etc. which are not only cheap but very effective. But the other reason was to INCREASE the death rate from COVID, and attribute any and all deaths to COVID. in order to create fear and panic. Now all of a sudden the seasonal flu has disappeared but COVID reigns supreme. Do you get the picture? It's become so easy to deceive billions, its like stealing candy from a baby.

Vaccines have saved lives in the past. I do not easily go down the conspiracy train.
 
Jun 22, 2020
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Vaccines have saved lives in the past. I do not easily go down the conspiracy train.
Vaccines have also killed people in the past.
Besides, that's no reason not to analyze the facts.

What saddens me is that many people have turned on their fellow people and have joined the government...
Do u believe the testimony of a mother of a disabled child or do believe a health bureaucrat?
I can't even believe I have to ask people such a question these days...

Do u believe your fellow man or the government???
 
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And all under the guise of "science"...
Most people don't know how science works and even the people who went to university don't know anymore...
The number one thing that makes a claim scientific is its ability to be tested... It's known as falsifiability...

Here are some examples of modern fields of science that are nothing more than speculative philosophy.

Theory of evolution: In university, it is unacceptable to offer an explanation that doesn't adhere to Darwinism, it cannot be questioned.

Big bang theory: A theory that has absolutely no basis whatsoever yet it is taught as infallible truth.
No other possibilities can be explored

Climate change: Another pseudoscience that is unfalsifiable... In fact, all their predictions made in the 90s have turned out to be wrong yet governments around the world have based policies on this erroneous claim...

Karl Popper was a famous 20th-century scientist/philosopher/professor. He wrote many books and studied many fields but his main concern was with pseudoscience, how to avoid it, how to identify it.

Rule number one is that the claim must be falsifiable

A red flag is when they claim infallibility. Claims like "the science is settled" is a ploy to stop any further inquiry and debate

Another red flag is the stifling of a challenge or debate by ridiculing the people opposing it with slogans like "climate denier", "anti-vaxer", "conspiracy theorist" and so on.

Another red flag is the censoring of any dissenting opinions... Science by nature is all about challenge and debate and anything that stifles that process is a red flag.

He has more red flags but I think they're the main ones that I wish everyone knew...
 

Roughsoul1991

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Vaccines have also killed people in the past.
Besides, that's no reason not to analyze the facts.

What saddens me is that many people have turned on their fellow people and have joined the government...
Do u believe the testimony of a mother of a disabled child or do believe a health bureaucrat?
I can't even believe I have to ask people such a question these days...

Do u believe your fellow man or the government???
I believe in facts and evidence. If the mother can prove it was a vaccine then sure.
 
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I believe in facts and evidence. If the mother can prove it was a vaccine then sure.
What kind of facts and evidence would you expect from a parent. The story often goes like this.

A child becomes ill after taking a vaccine. The makers say it wasn't the vaccine.
 

Roughsoul1991

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What kind of facts and evidence would you expect from a parent. The story often goes like this.

A child becomes ill after taking a vaccine. The makers say it wasn't the vaccine.
Stuff happens to young kids with or without vaccines. Until you know it was related then you cannot factually say it was the vaccine. But every vaccine, medicine or surgery comes with risks where a percentage of the population may respond negatively.
 

Moses_Young

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Vaccines have saved lives in the past. I do not easily go down the conspiracy train.
Vaccines have never saved a life, and never will. A vaccine is probably as useful in saving lives as a charm is at warding off evil spirits.
 

Moses_Young

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What kind of facts and evidence would you expect from a parent. The story often goes like this.

A child becomes ill after taking a vaccine. The makers say it wasn't the vaccine.
The facts and evidence is the reluctance of doctors to investigate each and every claim of vaccine harm. One refusal to investigate invalidates the claimed safety statistics.

The burden of proof is on the drug manufacturer to prove their drug is safe (and continue to prove it), not on the user to prove it is not safe. A refusal to investigate a claim of harm is tacit acceptance of the claim.
 

Lanolin

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another rubbish scare piece.

honestly if you personally dont want a vaccine or to get immunised then dont, but dont post rubbish about it.
 

Jackson123

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And all under the guise of "science"...
Most people don't know how science works and even the people who went to university don't know anymore...
The number one thing that makes a claim scientific is its ability to be tested... It's known as falsifiability...

Here are some examples of modern fields of science that are nothing more than speculative philosophy.

Theory of evolution: In university, it is unacceptable to offer an explanation that doesn't adhere to Darwinism, it cannot be questioned.

Big bang theory: A theory that has absolutely no basis whatsoever yet it is taught as infallible truth.
No other possibilities can be explored

Climate change: Another pseudoscience that is unfalsifiable... In fact, all their predictions made in the 90s have turned out to be wrong yet governments around the world have based policies on this erroneous claim...

Karl Popper was a famous 20th-century scientist/philosopher/professor. He wrote many books and studied many fields but his main concern was with pseudoscience, how to avoid it, how to identify it.

Rule number one is that the claim must be falsifiable

A red flag is when they claim infallibility. Claims like "the science is settled" is a ploy to stop any further inquiry and debate

Another red flag is the stifling of a challenge or debate by ridiculing the people opposing it with slogans like "climate denier", "anti-vaxer", "conspiracy theorist" and so on.

Another red flag is the censoring of any dissenting opinions... Science by nature is all about challenge and debate and anything that stifles that process is a red flag.

He has more red flags but I think they're the main ones that I wish everyone knew...
To my knowledge, people make conclusion base on science and statistic.

For example 200 people among 100000 people that take vaccines, die.

People start think, vaccines my kill people. We may don't know scientific explanation yet. But statistic seem tell something.

About vaccines that use mRNA, I listen doctor Sharri have sintific explanation.

I am not a doctor or biologist, to my knowledge, she exkplain why this vaccines kill,
She said, mRNA will replicate itself, and it may course blood disorder, than destroy lung.
I think doctor Sharri explanation consistence with what happen to my friend's sister in law, she have problem to breath after vaccines. Go to ICU for about 3 weeks, use respiratory machines and die.
 

Reformed1689

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This vaccine has not killed more people than Covid-19. We may see that, I suppose... but that isn't true now. This thread is rooted in ignorance and likely willful at that.