What Does God Have to Say About Ritual Abuse?

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satanic Ritual Abuse (or sRA) is a worldwide problem-- the real pandemic-- and has been for many years. (It is also called Ritual Abuse (or RA) among other names like occult ritual abuse, witchcraft ritual abuse, sadistic ritual abuse, etc.) It is a form of sadistic torture in order to split the mind of a child and make them easier to control through mind control or brainwashing. From what I've learned about RA, it is 'the big secret' and goes up as high as the presidents and prime ministers in many countries. It appears to be a very pressing issue that directly touches the lives of millions of Americans and indirectly influences the lives of all Americans and of most of the world's population.

The CIA has had to admit to being a part of this evil practice (ie. MK Ultra, etc.), and Hollywood often injects the reality of this phenomenon in its movies. (Domino's and Jimmy John's recently produced TV ads that paint this evil phenomenon in a respectable light.) There have been many victims, or 'survivors' as they're called, of ritual abuse who have run to churches for help, but the common denominator with most of them is that churches don't want to help them break free of their abusers and heal of their traumas. I have three questions:

1. Why are the churches so reluctant to address an issue as pressing as Ritual Abuse?

2. Is there a conspiracy to reject believers who are RA victims or is the rejection of people who are struggling simply a mainstay of modern christianity?

3. Does God approve or reject the works of christians who neglect the needs of their struggling brethren?

"We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?"

https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/when-good-people-do-nothing.htm
 

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Have you ever heard Fritz Springmeyer talk about it? I just tried to find his current speeches before I saw your post here. He spoke on this topic in great details, travelled the world and exposed illuminati members and sacrificial locations. There are others that specialized on the topic like Russ Dizdar who died recently.
 
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Have you ever heard Fritz Springmeyer talk about it? I just tried to find his current speeches before I saw your post here. He spoke on this topic in great details, travelled the world and exposed illuminati members and sacrificial locations. There are others that specialized on the topic like Russ Dizdar who died recently.
I heard of both men. There's also Greg Reid who wrote an article that somewhat addresses my post: https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/ra-mpd-church.htm
 

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I heard of both men. There's also Greg Reid who wrote an article that somewhat addresses my post: https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/ra-mpd-church.htm
Just read that article by Reid. I had met a gentleman that had MPD last year. He was in his 40s and would share at length his abuse, mostly during childhood and once a few years ago. He was a very troubled soul and I had love for him but it wasnt enough, he didnt know how to receive love and I didnt know how to deal with MPD. He would talk about his personalities in the sense that they were God given and it is what stopped him from ending his life. Everyday was a mental battle for his main identity that I had gotten to know, to reel his other identities in, they were created when he was a child to cope with the abuse but years later they were destroying him. He had a counsellor who didnt believe some of his experiences, I also found that Id catch him out in something that made him look more victim than survivor and I wanted him to push through it but he didnt know how. I didnt either. The amazing thing about him was his love for Christ. I think in his state of mind he would not and did not ask the church for help. He didnt like me offering advice and I learned not to. I think about him from time to time. Wondering what I could have done differently.
 
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Just read that article by Reid. I had met a gentleman that had MPD last year. He was in his 40s and would share at length his abuse, mostly during childhood and once a few years ago. He was a very troubled soul and I had love for him but it wasnt enough, he didnt know how to receive love and I didnt know how to deal with MPD. He would talk about his personalities in the sense that they were God given and it is what stopped him from ending his life. Everyday was a mental battle for his main identity that I had gotten to know, to reel his other identities in, they were created when he was a child to cope with the abuse but years later they were destroying him. He had a counsellor who didnt believe some of his experiences, I also found that Id catch him out in something that made him look more victim than survivor and I wanted him to push through it but he didnt know how. I didnt either. The amazing thing about him was his love for Christ. I think in his state of mind he would not and did not ask the church for help. He didnt like me offering advice and I learned not to. I think about him from time to time. Wondering what I could have done differently.
Kathleen Sullivan, an RA survivor, has a quote for people who want to help RA survivors:

"If you are going to work with ritual abuse survivors, you must also get educated if you want to be effective. And you must learn to be humble. Trauma survivors do not need to be around ignorant, modern-day Pharisees. Survivors in pain need people who will connect with them on an emotional level, get right down in there where they are, and listen."

RA/DID (DID was formerly called MPD) is a very complex network of spiritual bondage that closely includes territorial spirits or 'principalities' (ie. it is high-level bondage). As a result of the spirits at play, RA requires a whole new strategy to resolve it, and the strategies or knowledge that works for other spiritual, physical, psychological, and mental issues that believers face will rarely have an effect in the arena of ritual abuse.

In Mark 5, you read about the demonized man from Gadara. He was a survivor of ritual abuse. The Bible doesn't spell it out, but with the help of the Holy Spirit, it begins to become clear. (Note, for instance, the fact that this was the only time Jesus said He was going to "the other side"; Jesus's boat was almost capsized by a storm (the demons in the man were water spirits); the Jewish inhabitants of Gadara raised pigs; the inhabitants, rather than rejoicing that Jesus had healed the man were afraid of Jesus and begged Him to leave their region; etc.) Since this man's bondage was from RA, principalities were intimately involved. The reality of difficulty in freeing RA survivors shows in that the case of the demonized Gadarene was the only instance in which Jesus commanded demons to leave but they did not immediately leave and stayed to negotiate with Him (this had never happened in any other case of demonization and deliverance). By intuition or discernment, we know by this that something was amiss.

RA survivors primarily need community, because no one person can shoulder the burdens of just one survivor. I think that at the end of the day, to successfully minister to an RA survivor, a person (really, a group of people) needs two foundational tools:

1.) God's own love.

2.) God's own wisdom.


The former is love from God (with the human as a vessel); it is not human love even of the purest type which will have almost zero effect on the survivor. God's personal love is necessary as it provides the energy, motivation, and ability to minister. The latter is necessary because the rules when ministering to an RA survivor constantly change, therefore, it's imperative to be able to receive wisdom from God in the moment because things are constantly changing and what worked yesterday (or just two minutes ago) often will not work today as the complex network of bondage is constantly changing, turning, moving much like the gears inside a clock so that wher you could find a particular thing in one place a second ago, it is no longer there when you go back to look for it. This is the effect of luciferian wisdom (if you will): the gears or bondage or rules keep changing and moving so that only God's wisdom can overcome and resolve the bondage.

There is plenty of 'binding and loosing' when one ministers to an RA survivor. For example, God's love through a vessel releases Jesus to do the work of healing and deliverance (and believe me, it must be Him) and also signals the survivor that he/she is safe safety being a prerequisite for a survivor to heal (because "there is no fear in love"). And God's wisdom through a vessel binds the enemy and prevents him from successfully interfering in God's desire, will, and intention to heal and deliver the survivor. If a person (a community) relies on God's own love and God's own wisdom (in life or/and to minister to an RA survivor), then they will be able to have success. If they don't have those things, their attempts are applaudable, I guess, but will end up being just attempts. There needs to be a foundation of God's love and God's wisdom without which ministry to RA survivors is destined for failure, frustration, and major emotional drain.
 

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Kathleen Sullivan, an RA survivor, has a quote for people who want to help RA survivors:

"If you are going to work with ritual abuse survivors, you must also get educated if you want to be effective. And you must learn to be humble. Trauma survivors do not need to be around ignorant, modern-day Pharisees. Survivors in pain need people who will connect with them on an emotional level, get right down in there where they are, and listen."

RA/DID (DID was formerly called MPD) is a very complex network of spiritual bondage that closely includes territorial spirits or 'principalities' (ie. it is high-level bondage). As a result of the spirits at play, RA requires a whole new strategy to resolve it, and the strategies or knowledge that works for other spiritual, physical, psychological, and mental issues that believers face will rarely have an effect in the arena of ritual abuse.

In Mark 5, you read about the demonized man from Gadara. He was a survivor of ritual abuse. The Bible doesn't spell it out, but with the help of the Holy Spirit, it begins to become clear. (Note, for instance, the fact that this was the only time Jesus said He was going to "the other side"; Jesus's boat was almost capsized by a storm (the demons in the man were water spirits); the Jewish inhabitants of Gadara raised pigs; the inhabitants, rather than rejoicing that Jesus had healed the man were afraid of Jesus and begged Him to leave their region; etc.) Since this man's bondage was from RA, principalities were intimately involved. The reality of difficulty in freeing RA survivors shows in that the case of the demonized Gadarene was the only instance in which Jesus commanded demons to leave but they did not immediately leave and stayed to negotiate with Him (this had never happened in any other case of demonization and deliverance). By intuition or discernment, we know by this that something was amiss.

RA survivors primarily need community, because no one person can shoulder the burdens of just one survivor. I think that at the end of the day, to successfully minister to an RA survivor, a person (really, a group of people) needs two foundational tools:

1.) God's own love.

2.) God's own wisdom.

The former is love from God (with the human as a vessel); it is not human love even of the purest type which will have almost zero effect on the survivor. God's personal love is necessary as it provides the energy, motivation, and ability to minister. The latter is necessary because the rules when ministering to an RA survivor constantly change, therefore, it's imperative to be able to receive wisdom from God in the moment because things are constantly changing and what worked yesterday (or just two minutes ago) often will not work today as the complex network of bondage is constantly changing, turning, moving much like the gears inside a clock so that wher you could find a particular thing in one place a second ago, it is no longer there when you go back to look for it. This is the effect of luciferian wisdom (if you will): the gears or bondage or rules keep changing and moving so that only God's wisdom can overcome and resolve the bondage.

There is plenty of 'binding and loosing' when one ministers to an RA survivor. For example, God's love through a vessel releases Jesus to do the work of healing and deliverance (and believe me, it must be Him) and also signals the survivor that he/she is safe safety being a prerequisite for a survivor to heal (because "there is no fear in love"). And God's wisdom through a vessel binds the enemy and prevents him from successfully interfering in God's desire, will, and intention to heal and deliver the survivor. If a person (a community) relies on God's own love and God's own wisdom (in life or/and to minister to an RA survivor), then they will be able to have success. If they don't have those things, their attempts are applaudable, I guess, but will end up being just attempts. There needs to be a foundation of God's love and God's wisdom without which ministry to RA survivors is destined for failure, frustration, and major emotional drain.
Thank you so much. I wish I knew this in hindsight but I am better off knowing now. God bless.
 
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satanic Ritual Abuse (or sRA) is a worldwide problem-- the real pandemic-- and has been for many years. (It is also called Ritual Abuse (or RA) among other names like occult ritual abuse, witchcraft ritual abuse, sadistic ritual abuse, etc.) It is a form of sadistic torture in order to split the mind of a child and make them easier to control through mind control or brainwashing. From what I've learned about RA, it is 'the big secret' and goes up as high as the presidents and prime ministers in many countries. It appears to be a very pressing issue that directly touches the lives of millions of Americans and indirectly influences the lives of all Americans and of most of the world's population.

The CIA has had to admit to being a part of this evil practice (ie. MK Ultra, etc.), and Hollywood often injects the reality of this phenomenon in its movies. (Domino's and Jimmy John's recently produced TV ads that paint this evil phenomenon in a respectable light.) There have been many victims, or 'survivors' as they're called, of ritual abuse who have run to churches for help, but the common denominator with most of them is that churches don't want to help them break free of their abusers and heal of their traumas. I have three questions:

1. Why are the churches so reluctant to address an issue as pressing as Ritual Abuse?

2. Is there a conspiracy to reject believers who are RA victims or is the rejection of people who are struggling simply a mainstay of modern christianity?

3. Does God approve or reject the works of christians who neglect the needs of their struggling brethren?

"We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?"

https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/when-good-people-do-nothing.htm
Sounds like another conspiracy theory in the making to me. I'm sure there are abuses out there, but I doubt they are so widespread and upward reaching as has been claimed by some.
 
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Sounds like another conspiracy theory in the making to me. I'm sure there are abuses out there, but I doubt they are so widespread and upward reaching as has been claimed by some.
Most people who disbelieve that RA is real are contradicted by their intuition, the nagging sense that RA is in fact real. Furthermore, their instinct (not to be confused with their intuition) joins the conversation and tells them that RA and anything surrounding it is a very dangerous arena to traffic in. They're right, and fear is the choice weapon of the occult to keep 'inquiring minds' away. They fiercely guard their secrets and deliver on their threats unless God intervenes.

Never be quick to discredit anything, because we're limited in knowledge and don't even know what's going on behind us when facing one direction, therefore, we can't be sure we know of things that go on when and where we can't see.

The evidence for ritual abuse is vast. I don't waste time with opinions and theories; I persevere for only truth because I want to be safe, not just feel safe.

I was in a church in Rochester, NY in 2006 in which the pastor's wife happened to minister to RA survivors. On my first day there, my spirit didn't feel right around four of the church members (it was a small church, about thirty people on a good day). When I prayed about them, God showed me that they were satanists who were planted in the church to destroy it or at least hinder it. I immediately reported this to the pastor and his wife and told them to please pray about it with their prayer team because if God was the one who revealed to me that those two couples were satanists, then God-- being no respecter of persons-- would reveal the same to them but that if God hadn't revealed it to me, then He would tell them. They prayed and told me God revealed it to all of them. When this happened, several witnesses came forward to tell them of ritual abuse that the satanists were doing on some of the church members in the church's padlocked basement. Scary isn't it? That's why most people prefer not to believe it exists.

The longest-running and most expensive criminal trial in U.S. history is about ritual abuse. The CIA was caught performing elements of ritual abuse on unwitting American citizens (Project MK Ultra), and the FBI publicly recognizes its existence (though they prefer not to). But with many voices (including Dr. James Dobson) ridiculing and burying the evidence, there are more voices from all walks of life that acknowledge the existence and wide reach of ritual abuse. So many voices-- from all walks of life-- can't be conspiracy theorists, lying, or mistaken. Here are two of many examples:

1.) Speaking to christian journalists and magazines that discredit the existence and reach of RA, Pastor Greg Reid wrote, "That ritual abuse is real, and that MPD is real, is not an issue for me. I don't have the luxury of high-minded 'investigative journalists' who can treat survivors with ridicule and contempt without ever getting their hands dirty, or looking at the facts. I survived brutal ritual abuse... In Acts, the Bereans didn't just accept Paul's words. They were 'fair-minded', and they 'searched the scriptures daily to see if it was true.' (Acts 17:11) They loved truth. And finding truth means testing all known facts. Issues such as MPD and ritual abuse are so traumatic that they demand a complete hearing in the name of truth and compassion. We have failed to do so."
https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/ra-mpd-church.htm

2.) Speaking as scholars, Noblitt and Perskin (now Perskin-Noblitt) wrote: "We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse... We are hopeful that the christian community will not only become active in confronting ritual abuse, but that they will take a leadership role in eliminating such practices. Consider how much could be accomplished if the clergy would adopt an advocacy role in promoting public awareness and in assisting in the desperately needed fund-raising which would support research, treatment and legal assistance for those victimized by ritual abuse."
https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/when-good-people-do-nothing.htm

When non-christian psychologists are concerned about the way christians are rejecting christians, you're probably not looking at a conspiracy theory. Moreover, the evidence for global RA-- especially in western nations, which no one would suspect-- certainly exposes a conspiracy more than a theory. But since most people conveniently choose to disbelieve anything that scares them, even Hollywood, a satanic stronghold, sometimes rubs the truth in people's faces, knowing they'll choose to not believe. At the end of the day, we choose to live in the real world (where bad people do bad things behind closed doors) or to live in a fantasy where the truth is never too hard to bear. If you're scared of unsavory truths, then you're a friend to occultists who are more than happy to help you live in a reality that isn't in fact real. 'Regression' is based on actual events:


Ritual abuse takes place every night and covens are embedded in all cities and towns-- the members never apparent as they look normal like you and me-- such as Bellingham, WA which is one of many satanic stronghold towns (and then you have stronghold cities and stronghold states) in the US. The last thing you, as a christian, want to do is disdain a thing before hearing it out or discredit a cry for help without investigating it as Dr. James Dobson publicly did regarding ritual abuse (so much for focusing on the family because most RA is multi-generational and performed behind the closed doors of families). God's feelings about neglecting people's cries for help-- though this fact is swallowed up and forgotten in western cultures of hedonism-- are very strong and negative. The following is a recent documentary about RA called 'Detestable' that I think came out in 2017 by Thomas Dunn who is/was part of Russ Dizdar's ministry which helps survivors of RA:

 

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I heard of both men. There's also Greg Reid who wrote an article that somewhat addresses my post: https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/ra-mpd-church.htm
A lot of truth there.
It's a shame that more Christians don't show compassion to those who have gone through such devastating trauma. It seems like if people don't understand something, they care less for those who are less fortunate. Satanism in it's various forms is real and more common than I probably am aware of. The Lord allows me glimpses of it locally in the exact timing that can only be His direction.
 

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satanic Ritual Abuse (or sRA) is a worldwide problem-- the real pandemic-- and has been for many years. (It is also called Ritual Abuse (or RA) among other names like occult ritual abuse, witchcraft ritual abuse, sadistic ritual abuse, etc.) It is a form of sadistic torture in order to split the mind of a child and make them easier to control through mind control or brainwashing. From what I've learned about RA, it is 'the big secret' and goes up as high as the presidents and prime ministers in many countries. It appears to be a very pressing issue that directly touches the lives of millions of Americans and indirectly influences the lives of all Americans and of most of the world's population.

The CIA has had to admit to being a part of this evil practice (ie. MK Ultra, etc.), and Hollywood often injects the reality of this phenomenon in its movies. (Domino's and Jimmy John's recently produced TV ads that paint this evil phenomenon in a respectable light.) There have been many victims, or 'survivors' as they're called, of ritual abuse who have run to churches for help, but the common denominator with most of them is that churches don't want to help them break free of their abusers and heal of their traumas. I have three questions:

1. Why are the churches so reluctant to address an issue as pressing as Ritual Abuse?

2. Is there a conspiracy to reject believers who are RA victims or is the rejection of people who are struggling simply a mainstay of modern christianity?

3. Does God approve or reject the works of christians who neglect the needs of their struggling brethren?

"We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?"

https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/when-good-people-do-nothing.htm
I think when much of the church can't even understand worldly issues, how impossible will it be for them to understand spiritual issues? I know just months ago, some churches were banning people from attending if they didn't wear a face mask or show a vaxx-certificate, just because a little puppet, want-to-be-god politician said they had to. I don't remember reading that in the bible. These people try to rely on man-made wisdom which is folly, so will probably be even more foolish when it comes to spiritual matters such as Satanic abuse. Not all Christians, but in my experience, many who go to church.
 
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A lot of truth there.
It's a shame that more Christians don't show compassion to those who have gone through such devastating trauma. It seems like if people don't understand something, they care less for those who are less fortunate. Satanism in it's various forms is real and more common than I probably am aware of. The Lord allows me glimpses of it locally in the exact timing that can only be His direction.
It's a shame but it's also important to look at things logically or to remember how human psychology works so you're not helplessly puzzled about things and you understand why things happen the way they do: people naturally avoid things that are a.) difficult, b.) uncomfortable, and c.) inconvenient. Generally speaking, this is more true with christians than with the average person, and there are also logical and psychological reasons why that is.

You said, "The Lord allows me glimpses of it locally in the exact timing that can only be His direction." What do you mean?
 
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I think when much of the church can't even understand worldly issues, how impossible will it be for them to understand spiritual issues? I know just months ago, some churches were banning people from attending if they didn't wear a face mask or show a vaxx-certificate, just because a little puppet, want-to-be-god politician said they had to. I don't remember reading that in the bible. These people try to rely on man-made wisdom which is folly, so will probably be even more foolish when it comes to spiritual matters such as Satanic abuse. Not all Christians, but in my experience, many who go to church.
You said, "I think when much of the church can't even understand worldly issues, how impossible will it be for them to understand spiritual issues?"

Well said. I can't remember talking to a pastor and not echoing what Jesus said to Nicodemus which you also stated above:

“Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things" (John 3:10‭-‬12).

Yes, most christians are afraid to lose their lives. (If you look into it, you'll see that a person's 'life' properly consists of four things: their time, their reputation, their finances/possessions, and their wellbeing. When the Bible talks about losing one's life, one's 'life' as we value it consists of those four things. To 'lose' your life simply means to 'lay down your life' orto release your death grip on and need to control and use for only yourself your time, reputation, finances, and wellbeing.) For that reason, most will do whatever it takes to make sure life doesn't get harder for them. But when that's the case to the extent that it is (eg. rejecting people who don't mask up because a politician is backing that behavior), then there's no chance that the same christians will touch something like satanism which is much scarier and much more dangerous than politicians and covid.

Meeting in churches (ie. church buildings) has a way of dampening the gospel, keeping christians in perpetual toddlerhood spiritually, and weakening christians, especially the men. 'Church', like a soon-to-be mother's womb, is a safe place. Like a baby in the womb, churchgoers usually won't leave the church (ie. move forward, grow up, take risks, have faith, etc.) unless the church becomes unbearably uncomfortable and/or pushes them out. And like babies, they'd be very unhappy if for some reason they had to leave that safe place.

What do you think is a practical solution for the obvious problems?
 

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It's a shame but it's also important to look at things logically or to remember how human psychology works so you're not helplessly puzzled about things and you understand why things happen the way they do: people naturally avoid things that are a.) difficult, b.) uncomfortable, and c.) inconvenient. Generally speaking, this is more true with christians than with the average person, and there are also logical and psychological reasons why that is.

You said, "The Lord allows me glimpses of it locally in the exact timing that can only be His direction." What do you mean?
I've wondered why I come across evidence of Satan worship from time to time. Usually it's in a rural setting. It became apparent to me that God wanted me to warn others of these evils as He commanded His prophets to do likewise. In the nearby city there are groups of pagans and other occult practitioners. They sometimes show their symbols like gangs have their special identifying emblems or tattoos.
 

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I have three questions:

1. Why are the churches so reluctant to address an issue as pressing as Ritual Abuse?
What you have gone through and what you have been saved from becomes the basis for your ministry.

2Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; 4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ. 6 And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.

If there is a reluctance it is a reluctance of those who went through this tribulation, who were afflicted in this way, so minister the consolation of Christ and the comfort wherewith they were comforted with.

2. Is there a conspiracy to reject believers who are RA victims or is the rejection of people who are struggling simply a mainstay of modern christianity?
To answer that you would have to be someone who is privy to what is going on in every church on earth. The only person qualified is Jesus. So if you look at His letters to the seven churches in Revelation you see that Balaam, a false prophet hired by unbelievers to destroy the people of God has entered the church in Pergamos, that Jezebel, a pagan queen who wants to replace the worship of God with the worship of Moloch and Baal is sitting in the church in Thyatira. These two have worked together, Balaam made the poison and Jezebel puts the poison in an apple and gives it to the church in Sardis which is dead, like Snow White. As a result the church is infected with the putrid poison of Satan, his arrogance and pride, and we see that in Laodicea which God will vomit out of his mouth. Paul told us that after he left grievous wolves would come, so yes, Christianity is infected with grievous wolves. FreeMasons and Satanists have gotten a foothold into Christianity with money. The "richer" and better funded the church is the more likely it is infected with FreeMasons.

3. Does God approve or reject the works of christians who neglect the needs of their struggling brethren?
Jesus has made us witnesses, not judges. God will judge each one according to their work.

In my own experience I have found that the book of James is very helpful. James was the leader of the Concision, a Jewish cult that infected the early church. His book is his ministry that came out of the comfort and light the Lord gave him to escape that deception.
 

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I don't know if He was referring to ritual abuse, but don't think He was referring to spanking when Jesus said,

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

Matthew 18:6
satanic Ritual Abuse (or sRA) is a worldwide problem-- the real pandemic-- and has been for many years. (It is also called Ritual Abuse (or RA) among other names like occult ritual abuse, witchcraft ritual abuse, sadistic ritual abuse, etc.) It is a form of sadistic torture in order to split the mind of a child and make them easier to control through mind control or brainwashing. From what I've learned about RA, it is 'the big secret' and goes up as high as the presidents and prime ministers in many countries. It appears to be a very pressing issue that directly touches the lives of millions of Americans and indirectly influences the lives of all Americans and of most of the world's population.

The CIA has had to admit to being a part of this evil practice (ie. MK Ultra, etc.), and Hollywood often injects the reality of this phenomenon in its movies. (Domino's and Jimmy John's recently produced TV ads that paint this evil phenomenon in a respectable light.) There have been many victims, or 'survivors' as they're called, of ritual abuse who have run to churches for help, but the common denominator with most of them is that churches don't want to help them break free of their abusers and heal of their traumas. I have three questions:

1. Why are the churches so reluctant to address an issue as pressing as Ritual Abuse?

2. Is there a conspiracy to reject believers who are RA victims or is the rejection of people who are struggling simply a mainstay of modern christianity?

3. Does God approve or reject the works of christians who neglect the needs of their struggling brethren?

"We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?"

https://fromtheinsideout.tripod.com/articles/ra/when-good-people-do-nothing.htm
You made some good observations SoCaleb.
I can think of an example of a group of college students near Halloween who summoned a spirit. One got possessed and the rest saw a manifestation in the room. They escaped, called 'dial a prayer" to no avail. Then randomly picked my church from the yellow pages next. My pastor and assistant showed up and helped the group. Someone followed up to try to lead them to Christ a couple days later. I'm thinking that MOST churches don't know how to deal with spiritual warfare any more than the sons of Sceva because they are led by the spiritually blind. Remember those were the Jews who were doing the exorcist ritual to no avail.
 

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Yes, most christians are afraid to lose their lives. (If you look into it, you'll see that a person's 'life' properly consists of four things: their time, their reputation, their finances/possessions, and their wellbeing. When the Bible talks about losing one's life, one's 'life' as we value it consists of those four things. To 'lose' your life simply means to 'lay down your life' orto release your death grip on and need to control and use for only yourself your time, reputation, finances, and wellbeing.) For that reason, most will do whatever it takes to make sure life doesn't get harder for them.
I didn't know this. Thank you for sharing. Now I will view my 'life' in a different light.
 
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I've wondered why I come across evidence of Satan worship from time to time... They sometimes show their symbols like gangs have their special identifying emblems or tattoos.
Maybe God is acquainting you with the reality of satanism because many christians don't know that satanism and occultism exist or choose to believe the occult is not a legitimate threat. It's easier to acknowledge or recognize something if you already know it exists whereas if you don't know it exists or don't think it exists, then that thing can be way off your radar even when it's perched on your nose.

It's a good thing that we have occultists who wear visible symbols and use hand signs like gangs, because most occultists don't have any obvious markings or behavior. Seeing the ones who do have outward marks of occult involvement may, again, be acclimatizing you to the existence and reality of the occult. The more acquainted you become with something, the easier it will be for you to recognize it, even when it isn't as plain or obvious.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Maybe God is acquainting you with the reality of satanism because many christians don't know that satanism and occultism exist or choose to believe the occult is not a legitimate threat. It's easier to acknowledge or recognize something if you already know it exists whereas if you don't know it exists or don't think it exists, then that thing can be way off your radar even when it's perched on your nose.

It's a good thing that we have occultists who wear visible symbols and use hand signs like gangs, because most occultists don't have any obvious markings or behavior. Seeing the ones who do have outward marks of occult involvement may, again, be acclimatizing you to the existence and reality of the occult. The more acquainted you become with something, the easier it will be for you to recognize it, even when it isn't as plain or obvious.
I can only speculate on the reason God directed me to those locations, but I'm open to opinions.

When shopping, the checkout clerks or whoever sometimes wear signs that are usually symbols, jewelery, crystals, tattoos and sometimes they try to proselytize people that I know. I think that it helps them to connect with like minded and they believe that it gives them power.
Example... I even had a male pagan witch infiltrate my Bible studies before I knew who he was. He befriended one of my members and he gave me contact email and number for our schedule. Later I see a couple of different posters at the grocery store bulletin board inviting people to websites for meet ups. It was occultic so I took down the posters. I checked the sites and they showed ceremonies to worship deities/devil's out in the woods dancing naked around campfires.
I noticed that the email and phone number looked familiar. It was the strange man who was visiting our meetings. .....No more.
Last time I saw him, he was dressed like a little girl at the store.
 
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I can only speculate on the reason God directed me to those locations, but I'm open to opinions.

When shopping, the checkout clerks or whoever sometimes wear signs that are usually symbols, jewelery, crystals, tattoos and sometimes they try to proselytize people that I know. I think that it helps them to connect with like minded and they believe that it gives them power.

Example... I even had a male pagan witch infiltrate my Bible studies before I knew who he was. He befriended one of my members and he gave me contact email and number for our schedule. Later I see a couple of different posters at the grocery store bulletin board inviting people to websites for meet ups. It was occultic so I took down the posters. I checked the sites and they showed ceremonies to worship deities/devil's out in the woods dancing naked around campfires.

I noticed that the email and phone number looked familiar. It was the strange man who was visiting our meetings. .....No more.
Last time I saw him, he was dressed like a little girl at the store.
Again yes, the ones you're seeing are the ones who can be observed by outward appearances. I once knew a military veteran who wanted to give me a knife he'd used to kill people in combat. I said no thanks. He was christian and told me he used to be the leader of a Wiccan coven that would meet in the woods by a body of water and do sex and other rituals. When attending Henderson State University in Arkansas, one of my friends told me about the Wiccans in the town, how they always did their rituals by a body of water (he said the water had to be flowing or still, I can't recall which), and how most or all of the christian students who were a member of the largest christian organization on campus were also practicing Wiccans. I was amazed and asked him how christians could be dabbling in occultism, and he explained how it works to me.

Again, I think that you're picking up on and being shown the low-level occultism where you live because God wants to acquaint you with the reality of occultism. When God showed me the four (and the two more) satanists in a Rochester, NY church in 2006, it came out of nowhere. I hadn't been acquainted with the occult at the time, so the chances of me recognizing those people as occultists was extremely anorexic. The reason I did recognize them had more to do with my 'self-awareness' and the fact that I when I sense something (good or bad) about a person, I pursue that thing to see if it's true or not. Because I don't live by western society's "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" (ie. "Don't rock the boat") rules, I'm likelier to recognize evil when I see it because I'm not willing to "see no evil" or turn a blind eye.

As to the guy who infiltrated your group, you'll be hard-pressed to find one church in America that doesn't have occultists attending as christians. (There are a few, but not many.) They're assigned to certain churches more than others: superficial or vain churches; charismatic churches; churches with a prophetic or/and prayer or/and deliverance ministry that is making any little forward progress in Christ and His plan on earth; etc. If God slowly acquaints you with the occult and you are willing to keep going forward (rather than turning and running or turning a blind "That's none of my business" eye), you should ask Him why you are seeing those things and what He wants to reveal to you about them. When it comes to occultism, I know two things for certain:

A.) "The harvest is ripe." There are tons and tons of people in bondage to the occult (some of them occultists themselves and others only victims). These people are 'ready' (ripe) for deliverance.

B.) "The laborers are few." There are very few people who are willing or able to minister deliverance and healing to the captives of the occult world.

There are occult captives in need of saving (and occult perpetrators in need of judging); but Jesus has very few people to be His vessels, proxies, stand-ins to bring about His will for either party. If He is letting you see those things or is showing you those things, then you're one of the millions of people He's calling to be aware of and lend help in that arena. 32,000 people showed up to battle with Gideon; only 300 stayed to actually battle with Gideon. The harder the ministry is, the fewer the laborers will be. And ministry in the occult arena is anything but easy.
 
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Again yes, the ones you're seeing are the ones who can be observed by outward appearances. I once knew a military veteran who wanted to give me a knife he'd used to kill people in combat. I said no thanks. He was christian and told me he used to be the leader of a Wiccan coven that would meet in the woods by a body of water and do sex and other rituals. When attending Henderson State University in Arkansas, one of my friends told me about the Wiccans in the town, how they always did their rituals by a body of water (he said the water had to be flowing or still, I can't recall which), and how most or all of the christian students who were a member of the largest christian organization on campus were also practicing Wiccans. I was amazed and asked him how christians could be dabbling in occultism, and he explained how it works to me.

Again, I think that you're picking up on and being shown the low-level occultism where you live because God wants to acquaint you with the reality of occultism. When God showed me the four (and the two more) satanists in a Rochester, NY church in 2006, it came out of nowhere. I hadn't been acquainted with the occult at the time, so the chances of me recognizing those people as occultists was extremely anorexic. The reason I did recognize them had more to do with my 'self-awareness' and the fact that I when I sense something (good or bad) about a person, I pursue that thing to see if it's true or not. Because I don't live by western society's "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" (ie. "Don't rock the boat") rules, I'm likelier to recognize evil when I see it because I'm not willing to "see no evil" or turn a blind eye.

As to the guy who infiltrated your group, you'll be hard-pressed to find one church in America that doesn't have occultists attending as christians. (There are a few, but not many.) They're assigned to certain churches more than others: superficial or vain churches; charismatic churches; churches with a prophetic or/and prayer or/and deliverance ministry that is making any little forward progress in Christ and His plan on earth; etc. If God slowly acquaints you with the occult and you are willing to keep going forward (rather than turning and running or turning a blind "That's none of my business" eye), you should ask Him why you are seeing those things and what He wants to reveal to you about them. When it comes to occultism, I know two things for certain:

A.) "The harvest is ripe." There are tons and tons of people in bondage to the occult (some of them occultists themselves and others only victims). These people are 'ready' (ripe) for deliverance.

B.) "The laborers are few." There are very few people who are willing or able to minister deliverance and healing to the captives of the occult world.

There are occult captives in need of saving (and occult perpetrators in need of judging); but Jesus has very few people to be His vessels, proxies, stand-ins to bring about His will for either party. If He is letting you see those things or is showing you those things, then you're one of the millions of people He's calling to be aware of and lend help in that arena. 32,000 people showed up to battle with Gideon; only 300 stayed to actually battle with Gideon. The harder the ministry is, the fewer the laborers will be. And ministry in the occult arena is anything but easy.
In my experience talking to occultists, they want to experience spirits and have spiritual gifts because it fascinates them and frankly it’s kinda fun. Like Simon the Magician who wanted to buy the power of the Holy Spirit, Christians with real spiritual power and experiences are attractive to occultists.

They’re often eager to share their stories, experiences, and the way they do things. Yes they do want to proselytize, too.

It’s a rare thing to meet a Christian who has abilities that are sought after by occultists. You said you have the ability to sense the good and bad in someone; an occultist would say such a person is an empath or maybe psychic, and a prophet may be considered to be a necromancer or a medium, but a Christian would say they have gifts of the Holy Spirit. Occultists want those gifts.

So there can be some intersection between what an occultist wants and what a Christian has. I would say you have an opening because you can sense good and/or evil. If you can share those experiences with an occultist you could potentially create a connection whereby they may be attracted to Jesus.

Though I will say that most occultists I’ve talked to profoundly dislike Jesus and I believe there’s a dark spiritual component to that and shaking that stronghold may cause some spiritual warfare.