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All sin is equal in the sense that it hinders our union/communion with God, however not every sin is equal in the consequences that some sins bring upon themselves and others. Some sin just effect the person doing the sin and other sins effect everybody around the person of offense.
For example, if a homosexual couple came to church wanting membership, and/or but claim their union is valid and accepted by God, I would refuse them membership and try to show them God plan for sex and marriage and how it represents our relationship with God. This couples beliefs not only hurts them, but those around them, our children who watch them, and in raising their own children. They, by their living, are advocating it's ok to be gay while God says it's not and unnatural (Romans 1).
On the other hand, if a guy indulges in gluttony it has less effect on those around him and basically effects his overall health (of coarse their are exceptions to this).
For example, if a homosexual couple came to church wanting membership, and/or but claim their union is valid and accepted by God, I would refuse them membership and try to show them God plan for sex and marriage and how it represents our relationship with God. This couples beliefs not only hurts them, but those around them, our children who watch them, and in raising their own children. They, by their living, are advocating it's ok to be gay while God says it's not and unnatural (Romans 1).
On the other hand, if a guy indulges in gluttony it has less effect on those around him and basically effects his overall health (of coarse their are exceptions to this).
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Which person is more sinful in the eyes of God.
person 1. - Commited adultry on his wife after falling to temptation by a good looking young lady seducing him
Person 2. - Lied about something because he wanted to prevent someone from being hurt
person 3. - I successful in many things, and is not hesitant to puff himself up in pride and let everyone know
person 4 - Has many opportunities for ministry, but always makes excuses to get out of doing things to help people[/QUOTE]
I think all equally have sinned in their offences.
Sin is what separates us from God and redemption can only be received through Christ.
person 1. - Commited adultry on his wife after falling to temptation by a good looking young lady seducing him
Person 2. - Lied about something because he wanted to prevent someone from being hurt
person 3. - I successful in many things, and is not hesitant to puff himself up in pride and let everyone know
person 4 - Has many opportunities for ministry, but always makes excuses to get out of doing things to help people[/QUOTE]
I think all equally have sinned in their offences.
Sin is what separates us from God and redemption can only be received through Christ.
Excellent! We all have sinned and unfortunately continue to sin. Paul addressed this in Rom 7...
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
The question...
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
The answer...
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
The question...
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
The answer...
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
There isn't any differences of wrong. Wrong is wrong. Some people prefer that a person should be sentence to death for stealing their diamond ring that is worth over thousands of dollars, but it's only a stone that is attached to a gold band, and sentence someone lightly a person that steal a bowl of rice from a child that hasn't ate in months, and which there is a chance that the bowl of rice might be their last meal. But they both has hurt the heart of someone and that is the purpose what God looks at. Adam just ate an single fruit from a tree, but this act has hurt God's heart because of betrayal. God want us to show love and which that doesn't hurt the heart, but it overwhelms the heart with good feelings which causes a person to spread goodness around. But if we spread the fruits of evil, it will spread throughout the land until the everyone is fill with evil and then they'll destroy all life and the land. But if a person lies about their age to a store owner that has sold them a bottle of liquor, the store owner will get upset that there's a chance that their store could have been shut down behind that lie and or the parents of the liar could be upset with the store owner. So basically what matter is that a person shouldn't spread bad seeds around.
Romans 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Matthew 12:5Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent?
Matthew 5:22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Romans 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Matthew 12:5Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent?
Matthew 5:22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
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I think it is the opposite.
look at the example of Jesus., he went to the 'sinners" of his age. and it was much easier for them to recieve him, because they knew their sin was great. on the other hand, the people who thought they were righteous (ignoring the so called lesser sins0 did not recieve christ so easily, if at all.
which is the point I am going to try to make.
look at the example of Jesus., he went to the 'sinners" of his age. and it was much easier for them to recieve him, because they knew their sin was great. on the other hand, the people who thought they were righteous (ignoring the so called lesser sins0 did not recieve christ so easily, if at all.
which is the point I am going to try to make.
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God is the God of the law. not just the sabbath, but all the laws.. he commanded someone to marry a prostitute if I remember right. He does this all the time, But it is for the good.
We should not excuse any sin we have, just because God said it is ok on a few occasions.. Which I have seen people do!
We should not excuse any sin we have, just because God said it is ok on a few occasions.. Which I have seen people do!
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Because they are focused on law? Because they have no one to disciple them? Because they hide their real sinns because they do not want to be judged, And thus satan creeps in and temptation comes with no help.
Thats the danger we get when we try to do it all by ourselves. God never intended it to be this way. Man has perverted the church .
Thats the danger we get when we try to do it all by ourselves. God never intended it to be this way. Man has perverted the church .
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this is seen in the law.
God gave more severe punishment for sins which caused harm to society or to others, than he did for sins which caused less damage.
He did not command a liar be put to death, but a murderer he commanded to be stoned.
the problem is we look at this aspect. and see i do not do these grave sins, thus I must be ok with god.. when in reality, as has been posted a few times, according to james, when we commit even these so called "lesser" sins. we are just as guilty and evil in the eyes of God as those who commit the more "sever' sin.
all sin is evil in the eyes of God. all sin separates.
God gave more severe punishment for sins which caused harm to society or to others, than he did for sins which caused less damage.
He did not command a liar be put to death, but a murderer he commanded to be stoned.
the problem is we look at this aspect. and see i do not do these grave sins, thus I must be ok with god.. when in reality, as has been posted a few times, according to james, when we commit even these so called "lesser" sins. we are just as guilty and evil in the eyes of God as those who commit the more "sever' sin.
all sin is evil in the eyes of God. all sin separates.
I responded to a person that saw no difference between telling "a little white lie" or murdering a person.
A white lie is when you come back from work and your wife cooked a dinner that just looks like you´re gonna´die if you eat from it, and instead of telling her that you fear for your life (and insult her), you can be more diplomatic and say that you already had dinner, that you´re not hungry, or just make up something.
Are you going to tell me that there is no difference between lying to your wife about dinner and killing your wife (also because of dinner)?
Is God a God of absolutes? Does not the scripture say that if a man offend the law in one point he offends the whole law? James 2:10
The danger of rationalization is that for the unsaved man any sin is sufficient to condemn his soul to eternal condemnation. For the born again believer sin no longer condemns but effects fellowship with the Lord.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The danger of rationalization is that for the unsaved man any sin is sufficient to condemn his soul to eternal condemnation. For the born again believer sin no longer condemns but effects fellowship with the Lord.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
A person should just respond to their wife by saying, "that it not quite tasty, but going to take up some courses at a cooking school will improve it". Because if someone heard that she a great cook, they'll might pay her to cook food for their wedding, and be very disappointed because of the guess at the wedding has left plenty of food at the wedding. So it might hurt to tell the truth, but it might hurt even more if you don't.
Matthew 5:37 NIVNew International Version
Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
Matthew 5:37 NIVNew International Version
Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.