Why so many crazy people?

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Tintin, may i just enlighten you to the fact that this is a inter-denominational based forum, and since denominational ism has destroyed the basic tenants of Christianity, then it is only to be surmised that the same would happen here :) If you want deep theology talk, this is probably not the right place to get your spiritual food.
 
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Tintin said:
I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!
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Tintin, I recently tried to have a discussion with some people offline who told me they'd been Christians for years, attended church for years, etc., but they had very little knowledge of scripture...and what they did have was either incomplete or out of context. When I begin hearing "I've been told that the Bible says" or quotes from the most recent Christian bookstore bestsellers rather than scripture, I know the conversation is probably not going to end well. I think the same holds true online.

I would have to agree with Lecrae on this one. It's a form of godliness. It's strange fire. It's powerless.
 
Angela53510

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What is interesting to me about this year old thread, is how many members on the first pages are banned! How did I miss this the first time?

Maybe a lot of these people with weird Biblical ideas have been shunned in normal churches, and end up on-line trying to find people agree with them?

I do agree with Elizabeth that some of the extreme ones exhibit all the signs of mental illness. But the rest who really misinterpret the Bible, I think they fail to read it, meditate on it and study it. The basic tenants of the faith should be found in the Bible, and reading it is the only way to learn it.
 
Elizabeth619

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Is it bad that I am currently wearing a shirt that says "Psych Ward"?
 
Elizabeth619

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whoops. sideways.
Ok, uploading by phone is a fail.
 
iamsoandso

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you know tho on the other hand in the n.t. the Sanhedrin,scribes,Pharisees ect. viewed jesus,john the baptist,apostles ect. as if they were crazy,that is they "in their opinion" were not following the agreed upon mainstream religion. so from the point of view of the Sanhedrin,Pharisees ect. they were not willing to "think out of the box" to be able to understand the things god was trying to convey.

now on the other hand i also believe that what is being stated should conform to the scriptures. now at times even i say things that one might think is crazy,,i.e. "pin number in your fore-head" but in lew of the fact that every denomination seems to see it in the "foggy grey area",,i feel it an obligation to consider other directions on certain matters. in all fairness if someone see's something that may be being overlooked should they say it or just keep it to their self?
 
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Tintin said:
I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!
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Angela53510 said:
What is interesting to me about this year old thread, is how many members on the first pages are banned! How did I miss this the first time?

Maybe a lot of these people with weird Biblical ideas have been shunned in normal churches, and end up on-line trying to find people agree with them?

I do agree with Elizabeth that some of the extreme ones exhibit all the signs of mental illness. But the rest who really misinterpret the Bible, I think they fail to read it, meditate on it and study it. The basic tenants of the faith should be found in the Bible, and reading it is the only way to learn it.
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Since it's been ressurected...

Everything we do say and believe should be Bible based, it's our one handhold onto what is right and true and Godly. I've been rereading Pauls writings and it's caught me how many times he keeps sayin' that if anyone teaches you anything other than what he teaches, to stick with what he teaches. And the only way we're going to know his teachings is by reading it yourself, or more appropriately, with God. Don't neglect the assembly, and accept teaching from leadership, but test all of it by your eyes on His Word regularly.

However, there is truth that some good and faithful saints here do indeed have some crazy ideas nonetheless And it is only by visual verbal lashings that they shall be changed! ;)

Kidding aside, we should be careful when we label people mentally ill. Weren't some of the Prophets kinda the wierdos of their day? I mean, John wandered the desert eating bugs. So if someone here says they had a vision whilst praying and eating bugs, well, eyes on the Word will help you figure if they lean towards crazy or ...

And don't confuse different interpretation as crazy. Someone who has been used of the Holy Spirit to cast out demons and give healing is going to interpret things differently from someone who says it can't happen. Doesn't mean either side is crazy, just differently experienced. (Shameless plug: Paul says to earnestly seek it, and to stick with what he says). But that happens in a lot of subjects, in a lot of threads. Just try to remember that in the end we're all on the same side and to be each other's wingmen instead of bogeys.

Elizabeth619 said:
Is it bad that I am currently wearing a shirt that says "Psych Ward"?
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I still have the one I got when I was on 5150... does that make me still crazy?
 
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Angela53510 said:
Maybe a lot of these people with weird Biblical ideas have been shunned in normal churches, and end up on-line trying to find people agree with them? .
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And probably what is considered weird are people who only read bible and listen only to God, and not all the weird interpretations of God through the about 2,000 years since Christ.
 
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Jullianna said:
Tintin, I recently tried to have a discussion with some people offline who told me they'd been Christians for years, attended church for years, etc., but they had very little knowledge of scripture...and what they did have was either incomplete or out of context. When I begin hearing "I've been told that the Bible says" or quotes from the most recent Christian bookstore bestsellers rather than scripture, I know the conversation is probably not going to end well. I think the same holds true online.
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I can relate to those people as I myself never bothered to study scripture until I was forced to by this website.
It's because of the debates in the bible discussion forum that I have opened my bibles for the first time in 2-3 years.

I'm pretty grateful to you folks! :cool:
 
JaumeJ

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It is all for edification and exhortation. As the saying goes, what dos not kill you, makes you stronger.
 
4enlightment

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Tintin said:
I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!
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I'm guessing the works of God is to make them become spiritual aware, by removing their natural senses.


Isaiah 6:9 He said, “Go and tell this people:
“‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’
10 Make the heart of this people calloused;
make their ears dull
and close their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed.”
11 Then I said, “For how long, Lord?”

And he answered:

“Until the cities lie ruined
and without inhabitant,
until the houses are left deserted
and the fields ruined and ravaged,
12 until the Lord has sent everyone far away
and the land is utterly forsaken.
13 And though a tenth remains in the land,
it will again be laid waste.
But as the terebinth and oak
leave stumps when they are cut down,
so the holy seed will be the stump in the land.”
 
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Wow. This thread returned! I'm not talking about people who think full-immersion baptism is better or the only valid option. I'm talking about the important stuff like God being one but revealed in three persons, about Jesus Christ being God's Son, the Bible being God's unreserved Truth etc. The basic tenants of Christianity. Also, in regards to those people who add Eastern Mysticism to the Bible teachings.
 
Angela53510

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RickyZ said:
However, there is truth that some good and faithful saints here do indeed have some crazy ideas nonetheless And it is only by visual verbal lashings that they shall be changed! ;)

Kidding aside, we should be careful when we label people mentally ill. Weren't some of the Prophets kinda the wierdos of their day? I mean, John wandered the desert eating bugs. So if someone here says they had a vision whilst praying and eating bugs, well, eyes on the Word will help you figure if they lean towards crazy or ...

And don't confuse different interpretation as crazy. Someone who has been used of the Holy Spirit to cast out demons and give healing is going to interpret things differently from someone who says it can't happen. Doesn't mean either side is crazy, just differently experienced.
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There is a BIG difference between having crazy ideas, and being genuinely mentally. There are numerous people in this forum, that I do not agree with on one doctrinal issue or another. That does not make them (or me!) mentally ill.

Saying someone is mentally ill should never be an insult, anymore than saying someone who has a broken leg, or a physical illness should get help for their condition is an insult!!

Mental illness is real, it has diagnosable symptoms. I am sure you can google them if you want to know what they are. I have studied mental illness in Seminary, my daughter worked as a psych aide for 5 years and we discussed her cases. I ran a small Christian forum for a few years, and after a while, you can tell the difference between someone who has a few unbiblical ideas and someone who needs help from a medical professional. I spent a lot of time in forums for the mentally ill, understanding symptoms and identifying those who were not properly medicated or coping with their disease.

Tragically, there are mentally ill people all over the internet! When I see them here, I always say a prayer they will get help for this problem of neurotransmitters not working properly!

Oh yes, I do use my Bible to discern why some of those "crazy" ideas from sane people are wrong!
 
p_rehbein

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atomiku said:
Tintin, may i just enlighten you to the fact that this is a inter-denominational based forum, and since denominational ism has destroyed the basic tenants of Christianity, then it is only to be surmised that the same would happen here :) If you want deep theology talk, this is probably not the right place to get your spiritual food.
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Oh, I don't know, if one properly uses the "Ignore" option, they can obtain a certain level of Spiritual feeding here. (just saying) :)
 
wanderer6059

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Tintin said:
I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!
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can i say Amen to this? i am lol AMEN to that!i joined knowing little but have been lucky i put myself fully in the Lord and other mature Christians and have learned allot.

but WOW some of the people hear i'm glad i didn't get caught up by them
 
p_rehbein

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Tintin said:
I'm not trying to be a Pharisee. I'm just concerned that some members here are promoting a 'Christianity' that has little basis in the Bible and its teachings and more in common with cults and amalgamations of various pagan religions. Not good.
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May I "edit" your comment to remove "Christianity"? Just saying..........it's quite common on Christian Forums for folks to join and promote their "religion." And you are correct, what they promote is not based on The Word of God. :) Such is the world of cyberspace.

However, given the date of the OP, clearly SOMEONE here believes in "resurrection."

(hey, that's a start)
 
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Tintin said:
I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!
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I believe you are witnessing a breakdown of Christianity. Man gets in the way and things need to be set straight. You are having Christians starting hate clubs on the right (becoming Pharisee), and Christians on the left starting clubs that are way too loose (occult, support of sin, etc). You are seeing the product of these churches. It's mostly the same reasons why Protestants broke away from the Catholics. Will there be another breakaway? Perhaps. "Reformed" churches are springing up everywhere. Could we be setting up for the end times? Also a possibility, About half of the prophesies in Daniel have been fulfilled.
 
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