Literalist "interpretation" of Isaiah requires 1000 SPF sun lotion

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Larry_Stotle

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Isaiah 30:26 (NIV) The moon will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven full days, when the LORD binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted.



Slap it on people..
 
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Heh I doubt any SPF lotion man can make shall be sufficient.
 
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Larry_Stotle

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Maybe an extra white smile from the 7x sunlight would help win them over:

 
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Maybe an extra white smile from the 7x sunlight would help win them over:

Heh I think in that day judgement shall come, those won over are all ready won over. Though indeed many will have much to smile about.
 
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Larry_Stotle

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(Phil 2:15 KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

We shine as we reflect the glory of Christ.
 
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(Phil 2:15 KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

We shine as we reflect the glory of Christ.
Aye indeed.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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i have an idea...

let's just spiritualize -everything- in scripture...using ridicule as the sole basis for our arguments...

for example...'maybe jesus didn't literally rise from the dead...because lol zombies'
 
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Larry_Stotle

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i have an idea...

let's just spiritualize -everything- in scripture...using ridicule as the sole basis for our arguments...

for example...'maybe jesus didn't literally rise from the dead...because lol zombies'
Unfortunately rBS your comparison is worthless - none of the NT statements about Jesus rising from the dead are symbolic or metaphors.

Unless people are able to discern the difference between literal and symbol/metaphor and the underlying substrata of intent then their understanding will be off.
 

crossnote

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Larry have you experienced the Millenium Kingdom of which that passage speaks?
Oh, I'm sorry that happened in 70 AD, sorry you missed it.
 
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Larry_Stotle

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Let's look how this predicted Day of the Lord of Isaiah turned out - God would descend out of heaven, with a shout, in devouring fire, with hailstones, with a scattering and tempest, in the Day of His Wrath.

(Isa 30:30 KJV) And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall show the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.

The Assyrian judgment and reversal of Israel's fortunes was to happen - "Is it not yet a very little while".

(Isa 29:17 KJV) Is it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest?

(Isa 37:36 KJV) Then the angel of the LORD went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

Was the language used for this Day of the Lord fulfilled literally?

Was there a bodily coming of God from heaven - no.

Was there a "glorious voice" heard - no

Was there a literal rain of devouring fire or hail - no.


The people of Jerusalem were unaware of what had happened in the Assyrian camp until scouts came across them the next morning.

And note - the sun did not become seven times brighter than normal even though Assyria was defeated, and Israel delivered.

The moon did not become as bright as the sun. Neither did rivers and streams suddenly break out on the tops of the mountains and hills. (Fades in track from the Sound of Music....the hills are alive with the sound of rivers....)

You people may as well be reading Mary Poppins.



 

john832

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Isaiah 30:26 (NIV) The moon will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven full days, when the LORD binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted.



Slap it on people..
Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

That may be better acvice than you know.
 

notuptome

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In the shadow of the cross, under the blood of Christ and drinking the Living water I've nothing to fear. No harm can come to me. The new body Christ has prepared for me will know neither hunger nor heat. Made like His body and never knowing fatigue. Eternal spotless and pure.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Larry_Stotle

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Roger that, Roger.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Unfortunately rBS your comparison is worthless - none of the NT statements about Jesus rising from the dead are symbolic or metaphors.

Unless people are able to discern the difference between literal and symbol/metaphor and the underlying substrata of intent then their understanding will be off.
many 'christians' actually -do- claim that the new testament statements about jesus' resurrection -are- symbolic or metaphorical...
likewise many christians would argue that none of the biblical statements describing the new heaven and new earth are symbolic or metaphorical...

it is becoming increasingly obvious that your hermeneutic is simply to declare the end time passages symbolic or metaphorical by your own personal fiat...for no other reason than that you need them to be symbolic or metaphorical in order for your theology to work...

scripture should dictate our theology...your theology should not dictate your interpretation of scripture...
 
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Larry_Stotle

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it is becoming increasingly obvious that your hermeneutic is simply to declare the end time passages symbolic or metaphorical by your own personal fiat...for no other reason than that you need them to be symbolic or metaphorical in order for your theology to work...

scripture should dictate our theology...your theology should not dictate your interpretation of scripture...
The futurist "theology" is based on presupposition in regards to imminence statements in the bible so that presuppositional theology dictates interpretation which we be proven correct any day now...

By the way this is my personal Fiat:



 
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RachelBibleStudent

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The futurist "theology" is based on presupposition in regards to imminence statements in the bible so that presuppositional theology dictates interpretation which we be proven correct any day now...
so go find a futurist and share that opinion with them...i am not a futurist...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Larry have you experienced the Millenium Kingdom of which that passage speaks?
Oh, I'm sorry that happened in 70 AD, sorry you missed it.
He must have missed the return of Christ also.