Okay, you need to know that the bible states that the devil asked God cann he bother Job and his life. God said yes but he could not kill him. The devil asked God in the bible could he sigt (try) Peter and God also gave him permission. I think God does give the devil permission to mess with his people. Alot of christians call it testing our faith. And i know those scriptures, have quoted them before too. and went to church on a regular. Either im satans child or its just not working. Everytime i pray things got worse from what i recall. I used to be born again but i wouldnt consider myself that now and im pretty sure you can tell why. And why does it seem like the scriptures contridict themselves? You just quoted some that stated God doesnt want us to suffer. When if you look at the post above you from another christian member. He mentions a story where it says that God shows he loves us in suffering and wants us to suffer in joy. I even was given a scripture. Then why does other scriptures say. Just as christ suffered we shall suffer? And others that say, if they hated Christ then they shall hate his followers as well. There are also scriptures that say he will put us through suffering to refine us. SMH... PLEASE... WOULD YOU GUYS MAKE UP YOUR MIND....
The book of Job is very misunderstood.
Job was already under Satan's power. Job 1: 12. God will allow what we allow, And God is allowing what you allow your problems to do to you.
God never gave Satan permission to bother Job or Peter.
Everything that happened to Job, Only took 9 months, Then in Chapter 42: 10---17, We see that God blessed Job's remaining 140 years and gave him twice as much as what he had before.
I find it amazing that when people talk about Job, It is always in the negative, Yet there is a lot more positive things that happened to Job.
Even if what you say was true, Job and Peter were under the Old Testament, As the New Testament didn't come into force until Jesus died and rose again.
The Old Testament was under law, And the New Testament is under grace.
And as I have shown you, We can and should walk in the victory that Jesus died in agony to give us.
We have to come against the devil, If you don't God wont and you will never be victorious.
I didn't do my first post to argue with you, I gave it to help you.
The only suffering that Christians should have, Is persecution.