Should we pray to Mary as the Mother of God?

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4enlightment said:
If you had know the words that were said , Its says to pray for us sinners in our hour of need. So basically it is saying to pray for us since she's acceptable to God. But the feminist spirit is not separated from God, but it is actually the soft spot of God. Catholic assumed it is Mary since she had carried this Spirit in her that had given her these good qualities, and which one of these qualities is by staying with Jesus to the end and which that is a feminist spirit that is call Devotional.
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Bah humbug, scripture plz
 
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I didn't even read of the OP, just saw the title. And the answer is NO you should not pray to Mary. She cannot hear your prayers or speak on your behalf.
 
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ForthAngel said:
separate as in distinct yes. not three separate Gods as I think I made a point of, even if I used the wrong word. a better word might even be 3 variations of the One God.
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Three Persons in ONE in Perfect Harmony...........God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost.........
 
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There is a lot of stuff not mentioned in the NT. Where does the NT say to only do what it mentions?
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Mark 1:15) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Where does it say to BELIEVE OTHER THAN THE GOSPEL?
 
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Mary never helped Jesus? She never gave Him aid? She did not give birth to Him, raise Him, nurse Him, love Him? Because that is what co-mediator means.
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In the context of this thread, co-mediator means someone who stands between us and God and mediates for us. Jesus is the only mediator. Mary is NOT a co-mediator. Never has been. Never will be. Has NOTHING to do with her birthing and bring up the child Jesus.
 
santuzza

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Originally Posted by MaranathaSoonQuick
And where are the verses for that?



It's in the second chapter of Luke.
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Gee, I just skimmed through Luke 2. I see NO text that says, "Hail Mary, full of grace..."
 
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ForthAngel said:
Reread what I said and try again. Not "in other words", in my own words, I told you how I worship, through whom I worship, who I believe Jesus is (God), and how I worship and pray. Nothing unbliblical about what I wrote or how I go about worshiping or praying.
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You do not worship Jesus Christ.

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You do believe in the Trinity, I'm sure? 3 separate persons in one Godhead correct? You can attempt to twist anything I said, but everything I said is scriptural and aligns perfectly with the Trinity belief.
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I didn't twist nothing. Everything that you said aligns perfectly with the confusion in your head about what attitude should we have towards Christ.
 
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Simona25 said:
You do not worship Jesus Christ.



I didn't twist nothing. Everything that you said aligns perfectly with the confusion in your head about what attitude should we have towards Christ.
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Ok. :)....
 
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I am not sure how an ancient Sumerian goddess has anything to do with Mary?
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i think there's an interesting parallel.
Ashereh shows up in a many pagan religions in the mid-east and mediterranean under different, similar names, always as a mother goddess who is the wife of the main idol of the people.
Israel was steeped in idolatry -- the OT records how Israel worshiped this pagan goddess. the Bible is confirmed by secular men here too - many figurines of Ashereh are found by archaeologists in Israel, as well as inscriptions indicating she was worshiped alongside of the true God as 'His wife' in an abominable mix of Israel's spiritual adultery.

wife of the Father that gave birth to the Son --- mull over that for a while.
how far removed from Ashereh is an idolized Mary? same wicked spirit here?

i don't mean to speak against those that rightly call her blessed.
or to make crazy half-formed accusations. it's just something i've thought about and haven't fully understood; a perspective maybe worth looking at.
 
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posthuman said:
i think there's an interesting parallel.
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There is no parallel.

Ashereh shows up in a many pagan religions in the mid-east and mediterranean under different, similar names, always as a mother goddess who is the wife of the main idol of the people.
Israel was steeped in idolatry -- the OT records how Israel worshiped this pagan goddess. the Bible is confirmed by secular men here too - many figurines of Ashereh are found by archaeologists in Israel, as well as inscriptions indicating she was worshiped alongside of the true God as 'His wife' in an abominable mix of Israel's spiritual adultery.

wife of the Father that gave birth to the Son --- mull over that for a while.
how far removed from Ashereh is an idolized Mary? same wicked spirit here?

i don't mean to speak against those that rightly call her blessed.
or to make crazy half-formed accusations. it's just something i've thought about and haven't fully understood; a perspective maybe worth looking at.
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I am not seeing how Mary has anything to do with this?
 
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santuzza said:
In the context of this thread, co-mediator means someone who stands between us and God and mediates for us. Jesus is the only mediator. Mary is NOT a co-mediator. Never has been. Never will be. Has NOTHING to do with her birthing and bring up the child Jesus.
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What do you mean in the context of this thread? In the meaning of the title, it means aid or helper. If people are going to criticize that particular title for Mary, then do it for what it means.
 
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p_rehbein said:
Mark 1:15) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Where does it say to BELIEVE OTHER THAN THE GOSPEL?
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You didn't answer the question: "There is a lot of stuff not mentioned in the NT. Where does the NT say to only do what it mentions?"

The bible does not say you can only do what it prescribes. In fact, that would be impossible. The bible does not command us to use the toilet.
 
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Radius said:
I didn't even read of the OP, just saw the title. And the answer is NO you should not pray to Mary. She cannot hear your prayers or speak on your behalf.
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And you know this, how?
 
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Jackson123 said:
Mary life in different world, how can she hear us?

If I life in Indonesia and you life in america, and I go to my room asking you to pray for me, can you hear me, unless you use phone or email.

People who pray to Mary did not use phone. how he expect Mary hear?
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Mary lives in heaven, not Indianapolis. It's a bit different.
 
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And you know this, how?
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Scripture of course. There is one mediator between God and man. Christ Jesus is the only mediator. Mary is not a mediator God has never inferred any such thing never no how no way.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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notuptome said:
Scripture of course. There is one mediator between God and man. Christ Jesus is the only mediator. Mary is not a mediator God has never inferred any such thing never no how no way.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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There is one mediator for our salvation: Jesus Christ.
The intercessions of Theotokos means something else, but I already told you this.
 
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notuptome said:
Scripture of course. There is one mediator between God and man. Christ Jesus is the only mediator. Mary is not a mediator God has never inferred any such thing never no how no way.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Where does the bible say that those who are with Christ in Heaven are unaware of what happens on Earth and do not pray? Because the bible I read says otherwise.
 
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StoneThrower said:
No praying to a dead corpse is idolitry. 1st Timothy 2:5
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

For the living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything, nor have they any longer a reward, for their memory is forgotten.



Co-Mediator does not mean on par or equal to - it means aid and helper.



How is that?
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God dosent need are help, or our works, Mary has no part in the salvation of Man. He said I do not share my Glory with another. Go back to History why did Rome embrace that, why so larte in history?
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