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So I see that Definition_Christ has had a change of mind, myself having been convinced with pre-trib belief and to tell you the truth at the moment I am neither pre-trib nor post-trib because I would really like to get to the bottom of this, for myself at least as God is not a God of confusion and I am confused. I have requested in an earlier post if someone can give a list of ALL scripture that deal with Christ's return and our being called up(rapture) but no one has obliged, am I perhaps asking wrongly.