The Lord Hates

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hap

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ELECT said:
:confused: anyhow

Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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Let's read where two bodies were cast into the lake of fire

Revelation 19:20 KJV
[20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

What went in?
 
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hap said:
Let's read where two bodies were cast into the lake of fire

Revelation 19:20 KJV
[20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

What went in?
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their body soul and spirit went in to be destroyed

Does satan have a soul ?

does satan have a body ?

does satan have a spirit ?
 
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hap

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ELECT said:
believe and accept the one and true Christ as their Saviour
their are many false christ
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How are we to accept him? With words or following his doctrine

Mark 7:6-7 KJV
[6] He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. [7] Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
 
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hap said:
Let's read where two bodies were cast into the lake of fire

Revelation 19:20 KJV
[20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

What went in?
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lets read where more than two persons enter the fire


[h=1]Revelation 20:12-15King James Version (KJV)[/h]12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
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ELECT

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hap said:
How are we to accept him? With words or following his doctrine

Mark 7:6-7 KJV
[6] He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. [7] Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
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[h=1]John 6:63King James Version (KJV)[/h]63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

[h=1]John 8:51King James Version (KJV)[/h]
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.


[h=1]2 John 1:9-11King James Version (KJV)[/h]9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
 
Zmouth

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I don't know if I would be so bold to claim that the eternal God hates for few reasons;

One, Matt 15:11-18Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.


While it might be written in the Bible that the eternal God hates, it is not the word that a man hears or reads that defiles him, it is the word that he speaks which defiles him. So therefore having never heard the voice of the eternal God nor seen his shape, I can't honestly say that the eternal God hates. Now the Son of the eternal God, that is a different story considering what is written in John 5:37.

Two, John 3:11 "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen;"
Yet, I still can't say the Son of the eternal God hates either since the LORD hates with a 'perfect hate'. And all I have seen and experienced with the LORD I am lead to the opinion that 'perfect hate' defines chastisement and and not hate, so if you hold the Bible as the Word of God, then in Ps 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. And what does Jesus teach us about our enemies? Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.


And finally, since this is the then there is Heb 12:8-9
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
 
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ELECT

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#48
to hap


Does God have a soul ?

Do animals have a spirit?

Does satan have a soul ?

does satan have a body ?

does satan have a spirit ?
 
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Zmouth said:
I don't know if I would be so bold to claim that the eternal God hates for few reasons;

One, Matt 15:11-18Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.


While it might be written in the Bible that the eternal God hates, it is not the word that a man hears or reads that defiles him, it is the word that he speaks which defiles him. So therefore having never heard the voice of the eternal God nor seen his shape, I can't honestly say that the eternal God hates. Now the Son of the eternal God, that is a different story considering what is written in John 5:37.

Two, John 3:11 "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen;"
Yet, I still can't say the Son of the eternal God hates either since the LORD hates with a 'perfect hate'. Yet I can't say that the LORD hates either because Christ hates with 'perfect hate' is I have seen and experienced with the LORD I am lead to the opinion that 'perfect hate' defines chastisement and and not hate, so if you hold the Bible as the Word of God, then in Ps 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. And what does Jesus teach us about our enemies? Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.


And finally, since this is the then there is Heb 12:8-9
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
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As the father hates so the Son likewise

[h=1]John 5:19King James Version (KJV)[/h]19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
 
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Zmouth said:
I don't know if I would be so bold to claim that the eternal God hates for few reasons;

One, Matt 15:11-18Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.


While it might be written in the Bible that the eternal God hates, it is not the word that a man hears or reads that defiles him, it is the word that he speaks which defiles him. So therefore having never heard the voice of the eternal God nor seen his shape, I can't honestly say that the eternal God hates. Now the Son of the eternal God, that is a different story considering what is written in John 5:37.

Two, John 3:11 "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen;"
Yet, I still can't say the Son of the eternal God hates either since the LORD hates with a 'perfect hate'. And all I have seen and experienced with the LORD I am lead to the opinion that 'perfect hate' defines chastisement and and not hate, so if you hold the Bible as the Word of God, then in Ps 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. And what does Jesus teach us about our enemies? Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.


And finally, since this is the then there is Heb 12:8-9
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
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Jesus will be happy destroying the wicked

Psalm 137:9
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
 
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Btw, what is the purpose of this thread? To condemn the ungodly or to intercede on their behalves? Quite frankly, based upon the tone of the posts of the one who started this thread, I'm thinking that it's the former and not the latter.

Also, as has already been pointed out to you (hap), the soul and the body are NOT one and the same thing.
 
breno785au

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Do some people forget that they were once sinner before they were born again?
Don't you know you too were an enemy of God? What was it now that has made you a son? His mercy!
God hates, yet He loves. Sin cuts us off from His presence but His arm is still extended because He still loves.
Never forget what God has done for you, lest you become puffed up in your mind against unbelievers!
 
Hizikyah

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I enjoyed your post, and I want to support it!

breno785au said:
Do some people forget that they were once sinner before they were born again?
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1 John 4:19
We love him, because he first loved us.


breno785au said:
Don't you know you too were an enemy of God? What was it now that has made you a son? His mercy!
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Ephesians 2:13, "But now, in Yahshua Messiah, you who were once far off, have been brought near through the blood of Messiah."


breno785au said:
God hates, yet He loves. Sin cuts us off from His presence but His arm is still extended because He still loves.
Never forget what God has done for you, lest you become puffed up in your mind against unbelievers!
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Romans 2:4-12, “Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering; not realizing that Yahweh’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But according to your stubborn and impenitent mind you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of Yahweh’s wrath, when the righteous judgment of Yahweh will be revealed; when He will reward each one according to his works: to the ones on the one hand, who, by patient persistence in doing righteousness, seek for glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. But to the ones on the other hand, who are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, He will give indignation and wrath.” Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man who does evil: to the Yahdai(Jew) first, and also to the Greek (Gentile) But glory, honor, and peace to every man who works righteousness: to the Yahdai first, and also to the Greek. For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.”

1 Kepha (Peter) 1:13-21, "Therefore, gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the undeserved pardon that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Yahshua Messiah. As obedient children, do not conform to the former lusts you had when you lived in ignorance; But as He Who called you is holy, so you also become holy in all your conduct; Because it is written Be holy, for I am holy. And if you call on the Father, Who, without respect of persons judges according to each man's work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your sojourning here in reverence; Knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, such as silver or gold, from your idolatrous way of life handed down to you by tradition from your forefathers; But with the precious blood of Messiah, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot; Who truly was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you; Who through Him we do believe in Yahweh, Who raised Him up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in Yahweh."
 
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hap

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ELECT said:
their body soul and spirit went in to be destroyed

Does satan have a soul ?

does satan have a body ?

does satan have a spirit ?
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Satan is a evil spirit he has a spiritual body

1 Corinthians 15:44 KJV
[44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
 
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hap

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ELECT said:
Is the mind and brain the same thing ?
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I can find the word mind in the bible but the word brain I cannot

1 Corinthians 2:16 KJV
[16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

So what are we to have of Jesus

a mind or a brain or thoughts like jesus

you tell me
 
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hap

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breno785au said:
Do some people forget that they were once sinner before they were born again?
Don't you know you too were an enemy of God? What was it now that has made you a son? His mercy!
God hates, yet He loves. Sin cuts us off from His presence but His arm is still extended because He still loves.
Never forget what God has done for you, lest you become puffed up in your mind against unbelievers!
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Jesus said he love them that loves him and its only one way to love the Lord and that is to keep his commandments
Proverbs 8:17 KJV
[17] I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.



John 14:15 KJV
[15] If ye love me, keep my commandments.
 
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hap

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JesusistheChrist said:
Btw, what is the purpose of this thread? To condemn the ungodly or to intercede on their behalves? Quite frankly, based upon the tone of the posts of the one who started this thread, I'm thinking that it's the former and not the latter.

Also, as has already been pointed out to you (hap), the soul and the body are NOT one and the same thing.
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The purpose of this thread is like the purpose of all the threads to discuss the word of God and the soul and body is the same as the bible suggest
 
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hap

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Deuteronomy 16:22 KJV
[22] Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the Lord thy God hateth.

God hate images

i wonder how he feel about the people who set them up?
love them
hate them
 
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