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What was the language spoken before Babel
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Thank you for your contributions that gave me a more expanded view concerning this quest relating to scripture, and how it was intended to be understood. It was nice to converse with you in a most decent way. You have done what was in your heart.
I looked at these links, and unfortunately, they do not use the Hebrew letters, but the transliterated ones. So basically how you say it in English.
But I do know that the names do all mean things, and they do tell a story! The question is, were the names listed originally Hebrew, or translated to Hebrew when the Bible was written? Just as Jesus in Greek is ὁ Ἰησοῦς - Iasous, and in Hebrew is Yeshuah, yet we have translated his name to Jesus, these ancient names could easily be translated to Hebrew for easier reading and understanding in those times. Or not!
Because no manuscripts survive from those days, it is impossible to say whether Biblical Hebrew was the actual language used. I still have very strong doubts that Hebrew was the original language, because it is derivative. There are so many exceptions to the rules, so many strange rule changes, it is just not logical that it was the language God created. Even a language like Spanish, which has one sound per one letter, and that is pretty much in every word seems like a language that was created with purpose, rather than slowly evolving and a huge array of strange changes in verb forms, added things, and exceptions to the rules, like Hebrew. I cannot think that God would have created such a mixed up language.
Sorry to all the HRM people.
But I do know that the names do all mean things, and they do tell a story! The question is, were the names listed originally Hebrew, or translated to Hebrew when the Bible was written? Just as Jesus in Greek is ὁ Ἰησοῦς - Iasous, and in Hebrew is Yeshuah, yet we have translated his name to Jesus, these ancient names could easily be translated to Hebrew for easier reading and understanding in those times. Or not!
Because no manuscripts survive from those days, it is impossible to say whether Biblical Hebrew was the actual language used. I still have very strong doubts that Hebrew was the original language, because it is derivative. There are so many exceptions to the rules, so many strange rule changes, it is just not logical that it was the language God created. Even a language like Spanish, which has one sound per one letter, and that is pretty much in every word seems like a language that was created with purpose, rather than slowly evolving and a huge array of strange changes in verb forms, added things, and exceptions to the rules, like Hebrew. I cannot think that God would have created such a mixed up language.
Sorry to all the HRM people.
This is an "S" character letter. Depending upon where you put the dot on top, it is either sin (pronounced seen) or shin (pronounced sheen). It is a stylized version of the letter which was in the quote above.
As for it's proto Hebrew meaning, I think we have already discussed in several threads that the meanings of the letters are not really profitable for learning - it is the words and passages that we find our meaning in the Old Testament.
http://hebrew4christians.com/alphabetchart.pdf
The above link is a good chart of the Hebrew Alphabet and a good place to start. Memorize and learn how to write the alphabet, then move to nouns and then verbs, which are the bulk of Hebrew language.
As for it's proto Hebrew meaning, I think we have already discussed in several threads that the meanings of the letters are not really profitable for learning - it is the words and passages that we find our meaning in the Old Testament.
http://hebrew4christians.com/alphabetchart.pdf
The above link is a good chart of the Hebrew Alphabet and a good place to start. Memorize and learn how to write the alphabet, then move to nouns and then verbs, which are the bulk of Hebrew language.
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That would account for Hebrew and greek, English is one of the worst languages as for as understainding what a person is trying to say. The largest example is the word love. Many greek words, all translated in the same english word (love)
If Hebrew was so easy and so concise, I think God would have had the NT written in it, Instead of having the OT translated into Greek,
If Hebrew was so easy and so concise, I think God would have had the NT written in it, Instead of having the OT translated into Greek,
Eve would not have had a reason to be scared of snakes..there was NO sin, no shame, no evil, no past history of snakebites. I have a pet bunny and a kitten, who should be natural enemies, but our fully grown cat, now, sits on top of the bunny cage and guards my bunny and sleeps near it, although he chases wild rabbits in our yard and kills them. My bunny rubs his nose against the whiskers of our cat as they face each other. These two creatures do not share any emnity between them. My little grandson picks up snakes, lizards and worse and plays with them because there is NO developed fear or reason for him to NOT do it at this point in his life...same thing for Eve at that time.
I asked if you knew what it meant, not the name of it or what it sounded like. One of the attributes of the language is a pictorial representation.
my question to you was on this post
my question to you was on this post
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Would you accept this chart?
The Bible was written in late Hebrew. The texts which have survived are all late Hebrew, including the Dead Sea Scrolls. While there is nothing wrong with the chart, if you put the letter meanings next to early Hebrew, it is merely something you grabbed off of Google.
Once again, I urge you, with your interest in Hebrew to actually learn the language, instead of dabbling with these rabbit trails. Hebrew is a wonderful language when used properly to read the Old Testament. Using meanings of letters simply does not apply to the Bible. If you became some kind of linguist, and read Ugarit and Sanskrit and Phoenician, etc, then learning the meanings of the pro-Hebrew might also have some value. There are scholars who learn the ancient languages and study them for language development.
This link takes you to a far more instructive chart of Biblical Hebrew, which is what you want to be studying. Not something that has no relevance to your study of the Old Testament.
http://hebrew4christians.com/alphabetchart.pdf
Or this one: (Of course, the vowel points are a whole different story, which you seem to have left out!)
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Although theologens are divided on this topic,most believe that the "Bab" dialect consisted of one placing their index finger across the lips,moving it rapidly up and down,while doing a 'sing-song" monodrone utterace.
Bab-el came later and used two fingers.
No wonder new dialects were mandated
On a side note,this technique is still used extensively in "auctioneer" training
Bab-el came later and used two fingers.
No wonder new dialects were mandated
On a side note,this technique is still used extensively in "auctioneer" training
Here is a link I found:
The Bible and Interpretation
Of course, you could get a Hebrew Lexicon and look up the names. I downloaded a PDF copy of Brown-Driver-Briggs which I can't seem to find on-line. But it is there if you search. And comprehensive! All 1185 pages of it!
You are very discerning. Man had a singular pure language from creation until the Tower of Babel (it was one of the few spiritual perks he kept after the fall). When the Messiah/Christ returns to restore all that was lost, one of the things He will restore is that pure singular language. My understanding is that Christ has indeed regained the authority to perform such restoration, and that tongues is our ability to tap into that here and now thru the Holy Spirit until He returns to make it permanent. Where it talks about tongues ceasing, what it really means is that it will cease to be known as a tongue, since it will at that time be our native language.