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You are still missing the question. I understand that you are saying that "firstborn" is not the same as "born again".
I understand that here you say firstborn is to be first.
πρωτότοκος or prototokos is a present active participle which means first place, to be first. You can easily see it is the same word used in Col 1:15 πρωτότοκος although that one was in the perfect tense.
What I'm asking about is "from the dead", as in first from the dead. It doesn't matter that firstborn doesn't mean born again. It seems to be saying that Jesus is the first from the dead which would be essentially the same thing.
I'm not saying Jesus went to Hell. I don't have scripture to support that right now. There is however scriptures that can't be overlooked when looking into this subject.
1. Jesus cried out on the cross " My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?
2. Moses lifted up the brass serpent in the wilderness which was a figure of Jesus on the cross. Jesus even said so when he said he must be lifted up just like Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness. Serpent representing sin.
3. Then there's II Cor. 5:21, that says that Jesus is made sin for us so that we might be made righteousness in him.
I understand that here you say firstborn is to be first.
πρωτότοκος or prototokos is a present active participle which means first place, to be first. You can easily see it is the same word used in Col 1:15 πρωτότοκος although that one was in the perfect tense.
What I'm asking about is "from the dead", as in first from the dead. It doesn't matter that firstborn doesn't mean born again. It seems to be saying that Jesus is the first from the dead which would be essentially the same thing.
I'm not saying Jesus went to Hell. I don't have scripture to support that right now. There is however scriptures that can't be overlooked when looking into this subject.
1. Jesus cried out on the cross " My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?
2. Moses lifted up the brass serpent in the wilderness which was a figure of Jesus on the cross. Jesus even said so when he said he must be lifted up just like Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness. Serpent representing sin.
3. Then there's II Cor. 5:21, that says that Jesus is made sin for us so that we might be made righteousness in him.
.....and they do have a point.
I am wondering how old those clips are in angela's vid. The vids look old to me.