what was the purpose of the law?
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Yes, but Paul also said, once we have found the savior, the law has fulfilled its purpose/ Now we need to focus on other things. It is those things we as the body of Christ need to focus on (ie the law of love, seeking the spirit etc etc) it going back to law.
The problem is, people like me say this, and we get condemned as trying to rip apart the bible. and rejecting Gods word
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Good Morning everyone before the real battle begins.... Coffee anyone? Breakfast? I usually serve it in Speak but I'm willing to share here too.
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There is no battle. People may try to make it one, but Gods word is clear. It does not matter what we think is true, Truth is truth no matter what we say
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we establish the law when we admit we can not keep it, Humble ourselves. and come to Christ on our knees and freely receive his gift of eternal life.
If we have not done this, The law is still in application to our lives.
I hope that is what you meant, and not that we can not keep the ten because of the spirit in us.
If we have not done this, The law is still in application to our lives.
I hope that is what you meant, and not that we can not keep the ten because of the spirit in us.
Is Paul talking about doing this on purpose after the law is revealed, or is it that it will never really be understood because salvation isn't really there whether we claim it or not? Is Paul saying that there is no excuse for the spiritually mined to purposefully reject its substance?
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Romans 8:6-7
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Romans 8:6-7
My question is, if sin is the transgression of the law, and sin is present today, Which law is still making us sinners? God is a just, unchanging God so the rules don’t change. And if it is the same law that condemned Adam and Eve as sinners is condemning us today, which law is it?
The Law of LOVE, TRUST, and RESPECT. To love self, more than God, is to sin and to doubt God is to sin.
Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came, …. Which is the first commandment of all?
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
The Ten commandments are precisely this Love for God and Love for our neighbor.
Jesus even expanded on these laws
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
To be in God’s presence like Adam was in the beginning means we need to be righteous (sinless).
We can remove the law which reveals our sin which means we don’t need a savior but we would live in a lawless world, or we can keep the law perfectly and stand before God in our own righteousness (but all have sinned), or we can realize our sinful condition and accept Christ as our savior from sin. The law is still in place and we should keep it not to be saved but because we love God.
Keeping the Law is a delight when you love God and when you love your neighbor.
The purpose of the Law is to show what love is and to help us see what sin is. Therefore shows us our need for Christ and His gift of salvation because we can't keep the law without his help and we need redemption for the time we have sinned.
The Law of LOVE, TRUST, and RESPECT. To love self, more than God, is to sin and to doubt God is to sin.
Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came, …. Which is the first commandment of all?
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
The Ten commandments are precisely this Love for God and Love for our neighbor.
Jesus even expanded on these laws
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
To be in God’s presence like Adam was in the beginning means we need to be righteous (sinless).
We can remove the law which reveals our sin which means we don’t need a savior but we would live in a lawless world, or we can keep the law perfectly and stand before God in our own righteousness (but all have sinned), or we can realize our sinful condition and accept Christ as our savior from sin. The law is still in place and we should keep it not to be saved but because we love God.
Keeping the Law is a delight when you love God and when you love your neighbor.
The purpose of the Law is to show what love is and to help us see what sin is. Therefore shows us our need for Christ and His gift of salvation because we can't keep the law without his help and we need redemption for the time we have sinned.
gotime, you pasted your own answer, read it again.
Praise Jesus that because of him I am dead and delivered from sin excluding the Royal Law of Christ - the law of LOVE.
IF I live in love I fulfill the law.
Praise Jesus that because of him I am dead and delivered from sin excluding the Royal Law of Christ - the law of LOVE.
IF I live in love I fulfill the law.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.
Doing things "because we love GOD" is works of self righteousness, because man's love is a self-pleasing love polluted with sin that does things based on images in the mind of what GOD is. Basically, idolatry.
So the love of GOD is trusting in his love for us, which causes us to have mercy on others, thus fulfilling the law.
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 1 John 4:10
So the love of GOD is trusting in his love for us, which causes us to have mercy on others, thus fulfilling the law.