U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates
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Duhh, that means the judge would be in jail too.
(As I had posted yesterday)..
"District Judge David Bunning also said licenses issued while she was in jail without her name were valid.
In lifting the contempt sanction on September 8, Judge Bunning said he was "satisfied that the Rowan County Clerk's Office is fulfilling its obligation to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples," while pointing out that the marriage licenses were altered to remove Kim Davis's name."
(As I had posted yesterday)..
"District Judge David Bunning also said licenses issued while she was in jail without her name were valid.
In lifting the contempt sanction on September 8, Judge Bunning said he was "satisfied that the Rowan County Clerk's Office is fulfilling its obligation to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples," while pointing out that the marriage licenses were altered to remove Kim Davis's name."
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This is the best article I've read on this subject. I have to say, I agree with it. It covers all the questions I had on the matter. I hope I'm allowed to post it. I think most of you will agree with the content.
Considerations Regarding Proposals To Give Legal Recognition To Unions Between Homosexual Persons
Considerations Regarding Proposals To Give Legal Recognition To Unions Between Homosexual Persons
To make this a homosexuality issue is just plain stupid. Is that your agenda?
The issues are...
1. Redefinition of marriage from what God has ordained.
2. A Christian who's conscience and conviction is such that God's Word must be obeyed over man's law.
As a Christian do you have such a conscience and conviction?
At least let her have her's.
The issues are...
1. Redefinition of marriage from what God has ordained.
2. A Christian who's conscience and conviction is such that God's Word must be obeyed over man's law.
As a Christian do you have such a conscience and conviction?
At least let her have her's.
If this is all about her great conscience and her willingness to follow God's commandments, surely she should have been able to take instant heed of "one cannot serve two masters, for he will hate one and love the other", as soon as gay marriage became legal.
Bottom line: If her duty to God and church was in direct conflict with her duty to law and state, she should have resigned her position and started performing marriages for a pastor instead of a government. At least that way, she could refuse as many gays as she likes.
Bottom line: If her duty to God and church was in direct conflict with her duty to law and state, she should have resigned her position and started performing marriages for a pastor instead of a government. At least that way, she could refuse as many gays as she likes.
For now...til even that won't be 'legal'.
So you are saying that whenever an employer begins forcing a Christian to act against their conscience even if it wasn't in the original job duties, that employee is to fold and buckle? Additionally, in this case it can be argued that the Court acted illegally in legislating that which is not their function. Kentucky had no such law.
Your argument serves again to push the Judeo Christian ethic out of the public and into it's own ghetto.
So you are saying that whenever an employer begins forcing a Christian to act against their conscience even if it wasn't in the original job duties, that employee is to fold and buckle? Additionally, in this case it can be argued that the Court acted illegally in legislating that which is not their function. Kentucky had no such law.
Your argument serves again to push the Judeo Christian ethic out of the public and into it's own ghetto.
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The thing is being gay or homosexual is a sin, just as adultery, murder, lying etc.... I think the real problem here is that finally a very public stand for our King was made , and yet so much hate from people that supposedly live by the bible and by God is going around . He abhors all sin but He does love the sinner. But sin is still not condoned. What the states and people have done is make a war where there shouldn't be. Same sex marriage has never been legal because our nation was founded on God and Gods law. We have let this country go to the pits, by selecting people to rule that are not Christians and do not live by God. When our president said "This Nation is no longer founded on God" it broke the camels back. The great thing is through Christ we can heal it, so maybe what you might want to talk about is how we can change our society, how should we pray for our communities and the people that are brave and strong enough to stand for their right, how can we help lead people to accepting Christ? I support Davis. Her rights are being violated. We have the freedom to serve God! Use it!
LIBERTY COUNSEL UPDATE:
"This week, Judge John Enslen became the second Alabama probate judge to ask the Alabama Supreme Court to take action to protect Alabama's embattled probate judges who oppose the issuance of same-sex "marriage" licenses.
Judge Enslen argued, "Despite the June 26, 2015, ruling by the Supreme Court of the United States in Obergefell v. Hodges, the issuance of same-sex marriage licenses in Alabama… remains illegal and unconstitutional in the State of Alabama. Born solely from a strained interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, the new same-sex marriage license is a child of the federal government, not the State of Alabama."
Last month, Judge Nick Williams filed a motion and memo with the Alabama Supreme Court, arguing "the Obergefell decision is wholly lacking in lawful Supreme Court authority," because "the United States Constitution defines the powers of the federal government, and gives no branch of the federal government power to redefine marriage."
+ + We are actively engaged in the Alabama battle for natural marriage.
Liberty Counsel does not represent Judges Enslen or Williams, but does represent the Alabama Policy Institute, the Alabama Citizens Action Program, and their many Alabama members in related proceedings before the Alabama Supreme Court.
In July, in a brief to the Alabama Supreme Court, Liberty Counsel presented legal arguments following the release of the Court's ruling in the marriage case. The brief stated, in part...
I am praying that efforts to marginalize Christians and attempts to make us "call good that which is evil" will backfire. This is a crucially important and winnable battle. "
"This week, Judge John Enslen became the second Alabama probate judge to ask the Alabama Supreme Court to take action to protect Alabama's embattled probate judges who oppose the issuance of same-sex "marriage" licenses.
Judge Enslen argued, "Despite the June 26, 2015, ruling by the Supreme Court of the United States in Obergefell v. Hodges, the issuance of same-sex marriage licenses in Alabama… remains illegal and unconstitutional in the State of Alabama. Born solely from a strained interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, the new same-sex marriage license is a child of the federal government, not the State of Alabama."
Last month, Judge Nick Williams filed a motion and memo with the Alabama Supreme Court, arguing "the Obergefell decision is wholly lacking in lawful Supreme Court authority," because "the United States Constitution defines the powers of the federal government, and gives no branch of the federal government power to redefine marriage."
Citing the example of Abraham Lincoln and the Wisconsin Supreme Court, both of which ignored the U.S. Supreme Court on the issue of slavery, Judge Williams called for the Alabama Supreme Court to "recognize the historic moment to return balance to our system of federalism and restrain lawlessness."
+ + We are actively engaged in the Alabama battle for natural marriage.
Liberty Counsel does not represent Judges Enslen or Williams, but does represent the Alabama Policy Institute, the Alabama Citizens Action Program, and their many Alabama members in related proceedings before the Alabama Supreme Court.
In July, in a brief to the Alabama Supreme Court, Liberty Counsel presented legal arguments following the release of the Court's ruling in the marriage case. The brief stated, in part...
"When considering the Supreme Court's Obergefell opinion, state Supreme Courts should contemplate the decision's substantial assault on the Rule of Law, Democracy, and Natural Law, and its necessary diminishment of the constitutional right to Free Exercise of Religion."
I am praying that efforts to marginalize Christians and attempts to make us "call good that which is evil" will backfire. This is a crucially important and winnable battle. "
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"I support Davis. Her rights are being violated. We have the freedom to serve God! Use it!"[/QUOTE]...I support Davis's personal right to freedom, and I also support the homosexual's personal right to their freedom. The problem with Davis's action was that rather than seeking exemption from her name being on the certificates, she flat out refused to issue the certificates AND refused to allow any of her staff to....then went before a judge and simply refused to comply with what was ordered. She should've sought accomodations in the first place, but she didn't. Instead she used her religious freedom as an excuse to deny another of their own legal freedom. That was her own fault.