It's not about winning or losing. With this occasion, I found that indeed Saint John explicitely identifies himself with the beloved disciple of Jesus Christ. Read the end of the last chapter of John's gospel and you'll see.
well :haha: went to the mountain again
and he told me to post this message unto you
though some i cant understand thats why this is
the only thing i could send
as it is written
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Juan: 21. 20. Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
21. Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
~;> PETER SEEING THE DISCIPLE WHOM JESUS LOVED
SAITH SOMETHING TO JESUS WHILE LEANED ON HIS BREAST
AT SUFFER
22. Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
. ... THEN JESUS SAITH UNTO HIM (THIS ONE IS NOT THE ONE WHO WAS MENTION IN THE MOUNT OF CALVARY)
FOLLOW ME (READ 1JOHN 2JOHN 3JOHN)
23. Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
... . THIS IS THAT THEYVE HEARD ABOUT THE CONVERSATION OF
JESUS AND THE DISCIPLE WHOM HE LOVED
Juan: 13. 23. Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
24. Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
25. He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
.. . . LETS HEAR WHAT JESUS TOLD TO HIS APOSTLES
Juan: 21. 7. Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea.
→ HOW COME PETER IS NAKED
Juan: 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Juan: 16. 25. These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
26. At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
27. For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
28. I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
29. His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb.
30. Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.
31. Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe?
32. Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.
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gogbless us all always