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Romans 14 is for the weaker brothers and sisters.
 
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What a mighty God we serve and thank you Jesus my righteousness. Praise God for the Cross.
 
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Stubborn Individual Naughtiness
 

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I do not reject the law as it is good, but our ability to keep it, Romans 7
Jesus Commands was and is to love your neighbor as yourself for by doing so you have kept the law and the prophets.
The other command that Jesus gave was to preach the gospel to all the Earth. The ten are not mentioned. The only place Jesus talks about the ten are with the rich young ruler, then he tells him to take up his cross and follow Him. Jesus did not give him law, but His way. Come unto me for my yoke is easy and My burden is light. Amen
Jesus LIVED the commandments, He did not need to talk about them - and if we follow His steps we will automatically do the same ! at least we will have the desire to imitate Him and be conformed to His image....for that is GOD's Will and has nothing to do with being proud or selfrighteous. We are well aware that only the sacrifice of Christ gives us this opportunity !
You know that Jesus was 'born under the law - for the purpose of learning obedience. God did not make a mistake but WE are when we reject that basic foundation Heb 5v8,9. Christians think they don't need that sound foundation since they can 'claim it in Christ. This is quite true and works well for Babes and Infants. But at some point in our lives we are to learn to walk, mature and carry our own cross. Jesus is not going to carry us for all eternity.
Btw...to love your neighbour is 'to speak the truth to them !
 
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Jesus LIVED the commandments, He did not need to talk about them - and if we follow His steps we will automatically do the same ! at least we will have the desire to imitate Him and be conformed to His image....for that is GOD's Will and has nothing to do with being proud or selfrighteous. We are well aware that only the sacrifice of Christ gives us this opportunity !
You know that Jesus was 'born under the law - for the purpose of learning obedience. God did not make a mistake but WE are when we reject that basic foundation Heb 5v8,9. Christians think they don't need that sound foundation since they can 'claim it in Christ. This is quite true and works well for Babes and Infants. But at some point in our lives we are to learn to walk, mature and carry our own cross. Jesus is not going to carry us for all eternity.
Btw...to love your neighbour is 'to speak the truth to them !
Jesus was not born under law. Law was given because of sin to identify sin and expose it. Jesus was born of no sin. That's why he had to be born of a virgin and not the seed of man. The seed of man carries with it the original sin and slave to it. Jesus had to be born of the seed of a woman, however women have no seed, But it was God's promise to Eve that a redeemer would come.

The law provides no remedy for sin, the sinless one provides the remedy. Not keeping law which you can't keep no matter how hard you try.
 
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good night. yall have fun, praise god anyway, no matter what, just praise him. Amen
 
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Which commandment did Noah Keep? which one did Abraham, Issac and Jacob keep? Show me.
Someone needs to read their Bible.


Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Genesis 26:5 (KJV, MBM)
 

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Someone needs to read their Bible.


Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Genesis 26:5 (KJV, MBM)
We do read our Bible and you are smoking your socks!
Levitical law was not introduced until the time of Moses.
Your motives are not pure in this - you are trying to shoehorn an understanding into this passage of Scripture that does not exist.
Simply put you are putting the cart before the horse.

You have been going on about how simple things are that even a child can understand.
Well, what you are suggesting is both historically and logically impossible.
You do not want to see this reality because you are blinded by your predjudices.

Abraham had no clue about the law as outlined in Moses time and to try and pretend that he did is plainly dishonest.
 
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We do read our Bible and you are smoking your socks!
Levitical law was not introduced until the time of Moses.
Your motives are not pure in this - you are trying to shoehorn an understanding into this passage of Scripture that does not exist.
Simply put you are putting the cart before the horse.

You have been going on about how simple things are that even a child can understand.
Well, what you are suggesting is both historically and logically impossible.
You do not want to see this reality because you are blinded by your predjudices.

Abraham had no clue about the law as outlined in Moses time and to try and pretend that he did is plainly dishonest.

Listen, this is what he said:
Which commandment did Noah Keep? which one did Abraham, Issac and Jacob keep? Show me.
and I replied with this verse...

Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.Genesis 26:5 (KJV, MBM)
If you can't see that Abraham kept God's commandments by that verse, then you are illiterate.

By the ways, in that verse, the Hebrew word for "laws" is "Torah".

Go home and read your Bible.
 

graceNpeace

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Listen, this is what he said:


and I replied with this verse...



If you can't see that Abraham kept God's commandments by that verse, then you are illiterate.

By the ways, in that verse, the Hebrew word for "laws" is "Torah".

Go home and read your Bible.
Frankly this is just all euphemism.
You simply cannot equate Gen 26:5 with Levitical law.
It doesn't matter whether the word law translates to torah - in no way does that equate to Levitical law.
And in no way does that equate to any support for your law-keeping bent.
 
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Frankly this is just all euphemism.
You simply cannot equate Gen 26:5 with Levitical law.
It doesn't matter whether the word law translates to torah - in no way does that equate to Levitical law.
And in no way does that equate to any support for your law-keeping bent.
His post didn't say anything about "Levitical Law".
My post didn't say anything about "Levitical Law".

It looks like you wielded your own personal agenda in this.

not good.

and if you have a problem when the Bible says that Abraham kept Torah, uhm, take it up with God.
 

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His post didn't say anything about "Levitical Law".
My post didn't say anything about "Levitical Law".

It looks like you wielded your own personal agenda in this.

not good.

and if you have a problem when the Bible says that Abraham kept Torah, uhm, take it up with God.
You are using doublespeak here.
You refuse to honestly admit that is what you want that verse to refer to yet you continue to push this silly assumption in every other way.
 
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You are using doublespeak here.
You refuse to honestly admit that is what you want that verse to refer to yet you continue to push this silly assumption in every other way.
what doublespeak sir?
He said to show where Abraham kept commandments,
and I showed it in Scripture.

explain how that is doublespeak.


Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.Genesis 26:5 (KJV, MBM)
 

graceNpeace

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What commandments, what statutes, what laws?
This is never elaborated on!
Just to say that they are God's does not prove any kind of argument.

And given that you constantly refer to the word law as torah with a capital T it is absolutely clear what you want to infer given that Levitical law is referred to as Torah.
I repeat that this kind of assumption is both logically and historically false.
 
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What commandments, what statutes, what laws?
This is never elaborated on!
Just to say that they are God's does not prove any kind of argument.

And given that you constantly refer to the word law as torah with a capital T it is absolutely clear what you want to infer given that Levitical law is referred to as Torah.
I repeat that this kind of assumption is both logically and historically false.
I never use the term "Levitical Law".
I think that is your term.

In this passage, it is God, you know, the Almighty, speaking to Isaac.
God tells Isaac why He chose to bless Abraham, and eventually Abraham's Seed.

It is God that says, "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws"

This is not man's opinion or commentary by man.
This is God speaking.
Why do you have an issue with that?

 

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I never use the term "Levitical Law".
I think that is your term.

In this passage, it is God, you know, the Almighty, speaking to Isaac.
God tells Isaac why He chose to bless Abraham, and eventually Abraham's Seed.

It is God that says, "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws"

This is not man's opinion or commentary by man.
This is God speaking.
Why do you have an issue with that?
I have absolutely no problem with the text.
The issue is your use of it.
 
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I have absolutely no problem with the text.
The issue is your use of it.
Again,
the guy asked to show where Abraham kept commandments.

I posted the verse that shows Abraham kept commandments.

Then you come in with your rant.

Why?
 

graceNpeace

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Again,
the guy asked to show where Abraham kept commandments.

I posted the verse that shows Abraham kept commandments.

Then you come in with your rant.

Why?
I think you are wasted on this forum.
Ever thought of being a lawyer or a politician?
Does the term "plausible deniability" mean anything to you?
 
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I think you are wasted on this forum.
Ever thought of being a lawyer or a politician?
Does the term "plausible deniability" mean anything to you?
Sounds like you are ducking.
don't want the spotlight on your unwarranted attack?