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here lies the truth behind your actions, you view U.S. and what it stands for
as imperialistic government imposed on the people, as the enemy.
And not as the republic for which it stands.



not sure I seen this on christian chat discussion, care to post a cc link?
where you anti american in those decisions also?

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi

Obama pledges support to Iraqi leader -April 14, 2015
Al-Abadi told reporters Monday that an increase in U.S. airstrikes, weapons deliveries
and training has helped roll back Islamic State forces, but he needed greater support
from the international coalition to "finish" them. "We want to see more," he said.

Obama pledged $200 million in humanitarian aid to help those displaced
by Islamic State militants

"President Obama and the U.S. administration have expressed full readiness to provide
support for our security forces in our effort to liberate all of Iraq," al-Abadi said.

that ultimately Iraq is in control of its own destiny," Obama said.
Haider al-Abadi told the Huffington Post in June that he would be prepared to
"take any assistance, even from Iran" in the fight against IS militants.

The civil war that raged between the Sunnis and Shiites was largely
the result of Sadr’s Mahdi Army running rampant.

a stable pro-Shiite government to Iraq—something that Iran has striven for throughout
the last decade. the Iraqi chameleon and his Iranian allies will continue to work toward
a strong Shiite-dominated Iraq



Google ''Americans unwelcomed in Iraq'' for many proofs that Bush's presence in Iraq has always been unpopular in that region. For you to ask "were you anti American" is an absurdity in view of those truths.


While you mentioned Shiia Haider al-Abadi as PM, you forgot that his predecessor Nouri al-Maliki and Ibrahim al-Ja'afari who were hand picked by Bush were also Shiia and members of the al-Daawa party (the party that attacked and previously killed Americans as I showed you on that earlier link). Unknown to you, it was Bush who selected Shiias to run his puppet government in Iraq thereby facilitating al-Sadr's emergence as an influence. Google those names and you will see that they are Shiias of al-Daawa. Thus, while you blame Iran for making "a strong Shiite-dominated Iraq", the real reason for this is Bush.
 
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Google ''Americans unwelcomed in Iraq'' for many proofs that Bush's presence in Iraq has always been unpopular in that region. For you to ask "were you anti American" is an absurdity in view of those truths.


While you mentioned Shiia Haider al-Abadi as PM, you forgot that his predecessor Nouri al-Maliki and Ibrahim al-Ja'afari who were hand picked by Bush were also Shiia and members of the al-Daawa party (the party that attacked and previously killed Americans as I showed you on that earlier link). Unknown to you, it was Bush who selected Shiias to run his puppet government in Iraq thereby facilitating al-Sadr's emergence as an influence. Google those names and you will see that they are Shiias of al-Daawa. Thus, while you blame Iran for making "a strong Shiite-dominated Iraq", the real reason for this is Bush.
wrong...the real reason for this is the same people who brought you Obama. You're still playing the democrat republican game because that narrative helps you hide your communist leanings and your love of global marxism.
 

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wrong...the real reason for this is the same people who brought you Obama. You're still playing the democrat republican game because that narrative helps you hide your communist leanings and your love of global marxism.


Careful of what you say as Steve Evans might get mad at ya. ;)

I don't think Bush's imposing Shiia like Haider, Nouri al-Maliki, and Ibrahim al-Ja'afari as Iraqi leaders make him a commie but I'll give that a thought or two.
 

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I don't think Bush's imposing Shiia like Haider, Nouri al-Maliki, and Ibrahim al-Ja'afari as Iraqi leaders make him a commie but I'll give that a thought or two.
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam

#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role
in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap,
and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part
of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of
religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have
made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week,
and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to
lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers
and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam
is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative
stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”


20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity

#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control
and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it.
Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom
in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil unio
n that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because
the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line
in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all
there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the
difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and
prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their
personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my
God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for
all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the
reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe
that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates
some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer
them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have
been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the
Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna
regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy
to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek
and Norse and African mythology”
#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to
the Buddhist
temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one
that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see
their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God
intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place
for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story
of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power,
a belief that we are connected as a people.”
 
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Still waiting for proof that I have called for open borders.

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We simply have to lift our voices and join the marches and protest
to our representatives in opposition to the president’s immigration ban.



-would indorcing lifting the immigration ban mean calling for open borders again?
 
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20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam

#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role
in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap,
and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part
of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of
religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have
made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week,
and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to
lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers
and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam
is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative
stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”


20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity

#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control
and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it.
Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom
in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil unio
n that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because
the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line
in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all
there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the
difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and
prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their
personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my
God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for
all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the
reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe
that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates
some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer
them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have
been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the
Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna
regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy
to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek
and Norse and African mythology”
#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to
the Buddhist
temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one
that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”
#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see
their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God
intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place
for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story
of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power,
a belief that we are connected as a people.”

This post just blows my mind.I knew he said some of these thing about Islam,but it makes it even more apparent to me that he is a secular Muslim. There are so many objections to what he said about Islam.SO many.smh What are the far left libs trying to sell to America and what are they getting out of it? I wonder...

To the second half of the post I never believed Obama was a Christian,not even close and his words bear that out.I have so many family members and friends that are being deceived by this false narrative of tolerance.I worry for Canada in particular,I think it may be like Europe by this time next year. I hope Im wrong but I dont think so.
 

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This post just blows my mind.I knew he said some of these thing about Islam,
but it makes it even more apparent to me that he is a secular Muslim.
There are so many objections to what he said about Islam.
20 Obama Quotes About Islam Contrasted With 20 Obama Quotes About Christianity

yes it is a shame how the countrys people where decieved by lies.
there is so much wrong with and lies in his words: ..by there fruits.

this list come out back in 2013, might be more . google phrase for many links-easy to read

20 Obama Quotes About Islam Contrasted With 20 Obama Quotes About Christianity
 

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20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam

#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role
in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap,
and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part
of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of
religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have
made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week,
and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to
lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers
and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam
is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative
stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”










BACKGROUNDER: THE PRESIDENT'S {Bush} QUOTES ON ISLAM


In the President’s Words: Respecting Islam
The United States is a nation dedicated to religious tolerance and freedom, and President Bush has acted to ensure that the world's Muslims know that America appreciates and celebrates the traditions of Islam.
"Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace."Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr
The Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
December 5, 2002


"Over the past month, Muslims have fasted, taking no food or water during daylight hours, in order to refocus their minds on faith and redirect their hearts to charity. Muslims worldwide have stretched out a hand of mercy to those in need. Charity tables at which the poor can break their fast line the streets of cities and towns. And gifts of food and clothing and money are distributed to ensure that all share in God's abundance. Muslims often invite members of other families to their evening iftar meals, demonstrating a spirit of tolerance."Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr
The Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
December 5, 2002


"America treasures the relationship we have with our many Muslim friends, and we respect the vibrant faith of Islam which inspires countless individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and morality. This year, may Eid also be a time in which we recognize the values of progress, pluralism, and acceptance that bind us together as a Nation and a global community. By working together to advance mutual understanding, we point the way to a brighter future for all."Presidential Message Eid al-Fitr
December 5, 2002


"Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind."President's Eid al-Fitr Greeting to Muslims around the World
December 4, 2002


"Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for, and hate the freedom of the Czech Republic. And therefore, we must work together to defend ourselves. And by remaining strong and united and tough, we'll prevail."Press Conference by President Bush and President Havel of Czech Republic
Prague Castle, Prague, Czech Republic
November 20, 2002


"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan
The Oval Office, Washington, DC
November 13, 2002


"We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. We share your belief in God's justice, and your insistence on man's moral responsibility. We thank the many Muslim nations who stand with us against terror. Nations that are often victims of terror, themselves."President Hosts Iftaar Dinner
Remarks by the President at Iftaar Dinner
State Dining Room


"Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
October 11, 2002


"Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
October 11, 2002


"All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American Leaders
Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.
September 10, 2002


"If liberty can blossom in the rocky soil of the West Bank and Gaza, it will inspire millions of men and women around the globe who are equally weary of poverty and oppression, equally entitled to the benefits of democratic government. I have a hope for the people of Muslim countries. Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements. And those values are alive in the Islamic world today. You have a rich culture, and you share the aspirations of men and women in every culture. Prosperity and freedom and dignity are not just American hopes, or Western hopes. They are universal, human hopes. And even in the violence and turmoil of the Middle East, America believes those hopes have the power to transform lives and nations."President George W. Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden, Washington, D.C.
June 24, 2002


"When it comes to the common rights and needs of men and women, there is no clash of civilizations. The requirements of freedom apply fully to Africa and Latin America and the entire Islamic world. The peoples of the Islamic nations want and deserve the same freedoms and opportunities as people in every nation. And their governments should listen to their hopes."Remarks by the President George W. Bush at the 2002 Graduation Exercise of the United States Military Academy
West Point, New York
June 1, 2002


"America rejects bigotry. We reject every act of hatred against people of Arab background or Muslim faith America values and welcomes peaceful people of all faiths -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu and many others. Every faith is practiced and protected here, because we are one country. Every immigrant can be fully and equally American because we're one country. Race and color should not divide us, because America is one country."President George W. Bush Promotes Compassionate Conservatism
Parkside Hall, San Jose, California
April 30, 2002


"We're taking action against evil people. Because this great nation of many religions understands, our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil. This is clearly a case of good versus evil, and make no mistake about it -- good will prevail."Remarks by the President George W. Bush at a Town Hall Meeting with Citizens of Ontario
Ontario Convention Center, Ontario, California
January 5, 2002


"Eid is a time of joy, after a season of fasting and prayer and reflection. Each year, the end of Ramadan means celebration and thanksgiving for millions of Americans. And your joy during this season enriches the life of our great country. This year, Eid is celebrated at the same time as Hanukkah and Advent. So it's a good time for people of these great faiths, Islam, Judaism and Christianity, to remember how much we have in common: devotion to family, a commitment to care for those in need, a belief in God and His justice, and the hope for peace on earth."Remarks by the President in Honor of Eid Al-Fitr
The Diplomatic Reception Room
December 17, 2001


"The teachings of many faiths share much in common. And people of many faiths are united in our commitments to love our families, to protect our children, and to build a more peaceful world. In the coming year, let us resolve to seize opportunities to work together in a spirit of friendship and cooperation. Through our combined efforts, we can end terrorism and rid our civilization of the damaging effects of hatred and intolerance, ultimately achieving a brighter future for all."President's Message for Eid al-Fitr
December 13, 2001


"According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."Remarks by the President George W. Bush At Iftaar Dinner
The State Dining Room, Washington, D.C.
November 19, 2001


"The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan
November 15, 2001


"This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims."President George W. Bush Addresses the Nation
World Congress Center, Atlanta, Georgia
November 8, 2001


"All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."Remarks by President George W. Bush to the Warsaw Conference on Combating Terrorism
November 6, 2001


"I have assured His Majesty that our war is against evil, not against Islam. There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction."Remarks by President George W. Bush and His Majesty King Abdullah of Jordan
The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
September 28, 2001


"Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil."President George W. Bush Remarks by the President to Airline Employees
O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois
September 27, 2001

"The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them."
President George W. Bush's Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
United States Capitol, Washington, D.C.
September 20, 2001


"I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people."Remarks by President George W. Bush and President Megawati of Indonesia
The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
September 19, 2001


"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
Washington, D.C.
September 17, 2001









This means that Bush (a great hero to many here) is also a secular Muslim ... or possibly worse.
 

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BACKGROUNDER: THE PRESIDENT'S {Bush} QUOTES ON ISLAM

In the President’s Words: Respecting Islam

Respecting Islam: this is not the same as being one, and following there religious beliefs.


Again to stickup for obama, first thing you do is point out Bush, over and over.
Did bush double the national dept ?, free phones, or affordable heath, just sign this blank paper.



#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”


so others who believe the Prophet of Islam is false, have no future on earth?
did bush have this view?

#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”

was under Obama the muslim prayer and religious meetings in the White house ok?
do you believe the muslim prophets , or what our money in America says " in God we trust".


#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done
so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”

and what country did obama come from? what was he taught like
what good did the Islamic faith do over the centuries to shape the world ?


#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”


please what did Islam ever do that deserves a debt from civilization ?

#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”

that's not what I read in the quran, or spaech out of there mouths, or people they killed
You say they only want to get ride of us in there land, why let them in ours ?


#6 “Islam has always been part of America”


so Islam helped mold America when it was founded, by our countrys founding fathers.
please tell us what have they done to help build the U.S. from so long ago ?

-Maybe you might answer some of these questions?
I could keep going on and on , maybe someone else fill in blanks, lets skip a few


#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been
at the forefront of innovation and education.”

please show us where Muslims[always] are at the forefront of innovation and education.
Actually you will find the Jews: blessed the world in tons of different leading academics.

#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds
the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”

Is this why Iran , a Islamic state is calling on all muslims to attack Israel,
and vowed it will not stop till it does wipe them out, and take the land?

headlines that questions: Has the Islamic State Infiltrated U.S. Homeland Security?
 
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Did bush double the national dept ?, free phones, or affordable heath, just sign this blank paper.

All he did was to reverse Clinton's surplus, started two needless wars, created the terrible instability in the Middle East which led to the refugee crisis that we are talking about in this thread, and defended Islam more vociferously than did Obama.



Has the Islamic State Infiltrated U.S. Homeland Security?

ISIS was also not a problem until Bush created the mess we see today. This has already been discussed on other threads and need not be repeated here. On that basis you may want to return to the issue of Jesus and Trump's response to the refugee crisis as per Rev. Dr. Mark Achtemeier's writing.
 
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All he did was to reverse Clinton's surplus, started two needless wars, created the terrible instability in the Middle East which led to the refugee crisis that we are talking about in this thread, and defended Islam more vociferously than did Obama.






ISIS was also not a problem until Bush created the mess we see today. This has already been discussed on other threads and need not be repeated here. On that basis you may want to return to the issue of Jesus and Trump's response to the refugee crisis as per Rev. Dr. Mark Achtemeier's writing.

And obama excelerated the policies under bush. Your boy obama and bush were playing for the same team as clinton. And all you can do is dance around and bush bush bush like some automatron AI designed to defend Obama. My God man....are you even a real person?
 
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My God man....are you even a real person?
((Facepalm))Sirk, Sirk, Sirk.....I thought we went through this before. A real person? Of course not....hes a froggy and they go ribbit, ribbit :p
 

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''excelerated''

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Next time use spell check. Do try to think before you post as you demonstrate far too much emotionalism rather than reflection in your words.



 

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renewed_hope; said:
Peace frog? No,no,.no.....it seems like you start a fight every which way you go. That may be peaceful to you, but that isnt how I define it :p

Funny how that is a repeated accusation that we see over and over again but nobody ever backs up that accusation with proof.

You will note that I answer prove all's post with facts and pointed to previously mentioned facts. But I did not make any accusations or attacks against him.

By contrast, not how Sirk immediately attacks and makes accusations. But he does not even attempt to post facts. You too make an accusation - but where are your facts??



Therefore, who is the one starting the controversy? Hmmm ????
 
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''excelerated''

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Next time use spell check. Do try to think before you post as you demonstrate far too much emotionalism rather than reflection in your words.



Whatever helps you prop up the fantasy world you inhabit.
 

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^ see what I mean?


renewed_hope - Now let's see you apply the same standard to him.
 
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^ see what I mean?


renewed_hope - Now let's see you apply the same standard to him.
When someone calls your supposed facts into question your narcissist gas lighting tendencies come into full view. You my friend have some serious issues.
 

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''narcissist"

more self projection - lol




"gas lighting"




Laughable, especially in view of the fact that I back up my posts with facts while you continue to post attacks. By some miracle your fellow right wing friends here, somehow, miss them. Such selectivity is not in compliance with biblical law which expressly states that a true adherent must treat everyone alike. But then, I repeat myself.


Oh, by the way since I have your attention, I'm still waiting for your proof that I have called for open borders here. Have you found your "evidence" {sic} yet?
 
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