Scriptures for revival ???

Rockrz · Mar 31, 2017

Where in these verses are we told the Lord is going to bring in the majority of the earth's population in harvest as in most folks getting born again like the dominion theology people claim?

You know, the 7 Mountain guys who claim Christians are in the process of taking over the earth and there will be no ant-christ or great tribulation like the Bible teaches us?

Yes, yes, of course... that's what life is all about... tooting one's own horn.

Thank you!

stonesoffire · Mar 31, 2017

The seven mountains teachings of Lance Wallnau is about being an influence in whatever vocation or lifestyle we are in.

I haven't heard yet anything about latter day happenings.

Rockrz · Mar 31, 2017

Those are the dominionists... some of these guys teach Jesus cannot come back until the Body of Christ takes over the world brought to us by William Branham and the branhamites (all these guys think very highly of the teachings and "ministry" of William Branham)

They also engage in preterism where they claim all prophecy events spoken of in God's Word have already taken place, and God is done with Israel (replacement theology)

In the end we will see that most of the popular preachers are iin fact teaching error... based on Jesus telling us that many will come claiming to be anointed and will deceive many.

stonesoffire · Mar 31, 2017

The church of my childhood believes that Revelations has been fulfilled too. Theres a book they published, The Symbols Speak.

I'm not too concerned about latter day teachings, but I am very interested in Sonship.

Not universalism though. I don't understand how they see this.

stonesoffire · Mar 31, 2017

What has the Lord been speaking to you personally about the latter days Rockrz?

From my early days of new birth...it's been a message about the golden oil, the temple, the candlestick etc. So I do tend to believe the message that a day is coming...darkness covering the earth, but the glory of the Lord rises on His people.

Rockrz · Mar 31, 2017

Yes, of course the Lord is increases His presence among the faithful that actually believe and do His Word... but that does not mean we are going to take over the world.

That won't happen until after the great trib and Jesus comes here in person setting foot on the Mount of Olives, locks up satan, and assumes His rightful position as King and Ruler of the earth.

Some folks wanna say we are going to do this before Jesus gets here, and it ain't gonna go down like that since this is not what God's Word teaches us.

Those that get in to extra biblical teaching, brought forth by the so-called "new apostolic reformation" believe modern day apostles can and do bring forth new revelation that is beyond the Bible... that's satan working and it is deceiving many.

Lots of these folks will fall lock step in to the one world religion and one world government and take the mark of the beast thinking the anti-christ is from the Lord...

Mockers who do not believe in the Lord's rescue before the terrible day of the Lord (great trib) will be left here so there will be confessing Christians not taken in the catching away of the Lord's faithful cause... they weren't faithful.

Grace777x70 · Mar 31, 2017

Rockrz said:

I too have heard of some people believing that we will take over the world but really never looked into it and Branham did get off into error for sure at the end of his ministry.

Have you been on CC before with a different name?

Grace777x70 · Mar 31, 2017

stonesoffire said:

Me too - I am interested in son-ship and it's application to us His beloved children.

There is a vast difference between a universal atonement in which all of mankind is included in Christ's finished work and universalism - where they believe all dogs go to heaven.

I don't believe for a second that scripture backs up this theory. We must believe in order to receive the work that Christ has done. This is by grace through faith alone.

Rockrz · Apr 1, 2017

That must mean the Book of James, Romans 6, Romans 8, and other references to actually walking WITH the Lord are all lies...

Silly TV preachers cherry pickin scripture...

Grace777x70 · Apr 1, 2017

The true Christian life is living by grace though faith in Christ's work on the cross and resurrection alone.

His life in us will produce the good works that He has prepared for us by His doing. These good works will reflect His love and grace in and through us to a world that needs to know His true nature towards them.

We need to get the foundation of the true gospel of the grace of God in Christ down first or we create a works-based religion that tries to mimic the life of God that is in us.

Notice that "God has prepared" these good works for us. These are all centered in Christ's work on the cross and resurrection alone and Him manifesting His life in and through us.

Ephesians 2:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

[SUP]9 [/SUP] not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

[SUP]10 [/SUP] For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

As we have received Christ - we are to walk in Him. Col. 2:6-7

We received Him by the hearing of faith which is the word of Christ Himself. Eph. 1:13

Colossians 2:6-7 (NASB) [SUP]6 [/SUP] Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him,

[SUP]7 [/SUP] having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude.

Let's not be foolish Galatians and think we can now be perfected by the flesh - which is depending on what we do or don't do - such as in keeping the law of Moses of which it is simply a type of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that was brought into this world by Adam and Eve. Let's choose to eat from what Christ has done as He alone is our life.

The righteous in Christ shall live by faith which gives us access to His grace.

Jesus gave His "for" us and "as" us. He gave then His life "to" us and He expresses His life "through" us.

Our role is to wake up every day - I am not the Vine. I am a branch and live by the "sap" of His love and grace towards me. Embrace the branch life.....

garee · Apr 1, 2017

Rockrz said:

Yes as a work of Christ's faith, God's word is true.And as it works within us we realize it is the work of God and not of our own selves that we can believe Him who has no form.

Abraham believed God who gave Abraham His faith to both will and do the good pleasure of it. If its God's will and is performed we did not get accredited for the finishing of it. It was the way the relationship was designed .Not doing it caused the fall.

That faith as a work that came from hearing God was not of Abraham but worked in Abraham just as that same mutual faith of Christ work in Rehab. Having the faith of Christ that does work in us in respect to any person other than the faith of God is to blaspheme the Holy name by which we are called.

It is what the apostate Jew performed .Having Christ's faith in respect to Abraham ,as if Abraham is the one who made it perfect, complete..and not the faith of Christ as the work of God which he worked with His good works.

Jam 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

garee · Apr 1, 2017

Rockrz said:

The scriptures speak of the reformation which restores to another time period . Not sure where the term revival comes from?

During the time of the first century reformation, came the great falling away. It is the beginning of the last days. The days of Jacobs’s trouble .This is seeing the Jews were no longer used as types and shadows and could no longer idetify with the flesh of a Jew.. The substance had come restoring the government to the time period of the Judges when there was no outward representative like all the Pagan kingdom of this world .

I think the vision that Isiah 26 had was in respect to the first century refomation. It was at that time Christ gave the new name for His people called Christians . A word without another meaning , meaning residents of the faithful city of Christ the founder, also called Zion (the bride of Christ. )

And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city. Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.Isa 1:26

Rockrz · Apr 1, 2017

Here's another one that silly TV preachers just cannot seem to explain away where Paul is saying plainly it was possible for him to be rejected by the Lord...

1 Corinthians 9:27
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Paul is making reference to controlling his own flesh as to not be led by the flesh which he points out in Romans 8 that if one walks after the flesh they shall die.

Castaway (adokimos) in the original text is: unapproved, worthless, rejected, reprobate.

This same word is used here:

Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind

Further proof from scripture that it's entirely possible to turn away from the Lord and not spend eternity with Him after having started a relationship with Him (getting born again)... or in Paul's case having been one of the Apostles!

Sounds like the Lord expects us to actually walk with Him and turn away from iniquity as mentioned in 2 Timothy 2:19

It's much better to get one's learning from scripture than from silly TV preachers who need more offerings so they can have another face lift... since the last one didn't work out real much

Grace777x70 · Apr 1, 2017

1 Corinthians 9:27 "in context" Paul is talking about his ministry.

Paul is talking about being a castaway or disqualified from his ministry which is why he kept his body disciplined as a runner would in the Olympic Games - which is why Paul gave this analogy. See verse 24-25.

The word castaway simply means disqualified, rejected, useless.

[FONT="Gentium" !important]adokimos[/FONT] adj

Rejected, depraved, disqualified, unworthy, useless

Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Alpha-Gamma.

It is not talking about his eternal destination as Paul was sealed with the Holy Spirit. Eph. 1:13

1 Corinthians 9:22-27 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some.

[SUP]23 [/SUP] I do all things for the sake of the gospel, so that I may become a fellow partaker of it.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.

[SUP]25 [/SUP] Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.

[SUP]26 [/SUP] Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air;

[SUP]27 [/SUP] but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.

Rockrz · Apr 5, 2017

That's a lie... Romans 8 tells Christians that if we walk after the flesh we shall die and Paul was specifically speaking of keeping his flesh under control to not walk after the flesh.

OSAS is a lie, which will become apparent before long as many Christians today are being taught it matters not if they walk after the flesh (sinful lifestyle) because all of their future sin has already been forgiven before they ever do the dirty deeds AND they are taught that some sins of the flesh (like getting drunk, smokin weed, sex outside of marriage, gayness, etc, etc) are not actually sinful.

There is a reason for the warnings the Lord gives concerning false, ear tickling teachers in the end times...

88 · Apr 6, 2017

Rockrz said:

I keep hearing numerous ministries and other Christians talk about a massive end time revival where a large portion of the earth's population will be getting saved.

Does anybody have scriptures verses that speak to this?

I keep seeing verses that speak of a great falling away, some turning to doctrines of devils, the love of many growing cold, as well as the coming one world government and one world leader (anti-christ), many coming in Jesus Name deceiving many, etc, etc.... of which Jesus said when we see these things coming to look up because our redemption is near meaning it's actually good news for the faithful when these things come upon the earth.

I was just curious if anybody had some verses to share that actually say there is going to be a massive revival... or if this is just something people are praying for with no specific verses that specifically says there will be massive revival just before Jesus catches away His faithful.

I'm studying this so I look forward to receiving any verses anybody may have on this so I can see exactly where God promises and foretold this.

***I will try to get you Scriptures later****here is a message by Reinhardt Bonnke; he has already won 73 million to Christ in Africa and saves Revival of this magnitude is coming to America...
https://youtu.be/KnTkzFWYLUc

Rockrz · Apr 6, 2017

OK, I'll hold...

Concerning America... reckon we can sow to the flesh and not receive corruption???

If the majority of this nation does not repent and actually walk with the Lord like in the next few months... there will be judgement, which has already actually started. It matters not what fancy TV preachers claim... they aren't God although they like to act like it.

Ancient Israel turned away from the Lord and the Lord allowed their enemies to come in and destroy them.

Notice all the "refugees" coming in that are enemies of the Cross?

Yeah, this nation is being setup for judgement right now...

Rockrz · Apr 12, 2017

Still no scriptures showing where the Lord says there will be mass revival just before He returns???

Johnny_B · Apr 12, 2017

Rockrz said:

Yes it was and in it he talks about Israel in chapters 9-11 to those believers.

Rockrz · Apr 12, 2017

God never changes so much of what applies to descendants of Abraham applies to all people as well cause God wants a close personal relationship with each of us... many in ancient Israel did not want that, so their nation was destroyed.

This is an example to the rest of us... we should pay attention and don't do what they did!

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