Why does God hate Esau?
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Two sons...
One embraced and loves being the Son of Father...birthright.
The other counted it as less and esteemed lightly for flesh. Esaus temptation which caused his loss...was a bowl of flesh. Adams was the presence of the Lord. Somehow he moved away from the "walking in the cool of the day" with God.
Scripture says he was with Eve when she was deceived. Is this not so?
One embraced and loves being the Son of Father...birthright.
The other counted it as less and esteemed lightly for flesh. Esaus temptation which caused his loss...was a bowl of flesh. Adams was the presence of the Lord. Somehow he moved away from the "walking in the cool of the day" with God.
Scripture says he was with Eve when she was deceived. Is this not so?
Gen 3:1 Now the Shining One was more clever than any animal of the field that the LORD God had made. It asked the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You are not to eat from any tree of the garden'?"
Gen 3:2 "We may eat from the trees of the garden," the woman answered the serpent,
Gen 3:3 "but as for the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You are not to eat from it, nor are you to touch it, or you will die.'"
Gen 3:4 "You certainly will not die!" the Shining One told the woman.
Gen 3:5 "Even God knows that on the day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you'll become like God, knowing good and evil."
Gen 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree produced good food, was attractive in appearance, and was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate it. Then she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate some, too.
Gen 3:7 As a result, they both understood what they had done, and they became aware that they were naked. So they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves.
Gen 3:8 When they heard the voice of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden during the breeze of the day, the man and his wife concealed themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
Gen 3:9 So the LORD God called out to the man, asking him, "Where are you?"
Gen 3:10 "I heard your voice in the garden," the man answered, "and I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid from you."
Gen 3:11 "Who told you that you are naked?" God asked. "Did you eat fruit from the tree that I commanded you not to eat?"
Gen 3:12 The man answered, "The woman whom you provided for me gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate some of it."
Gen 3:13 Then the LORD God asked the woman, "What did you do?" "The Shining One misled me," the woman answered, "so I ate."
Gen 3:2 "We may eat from the trees of the garden," the woman answered the serpent,
Gen 3:3 "but as for the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You are not to eat from it, nor are you to touch it, or you will die.'"
Gen 3:4 "You certainly will not die!" the Shining One told the woman.
Gen 3:5 "Even God knows that on the day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you'll become like God, knowing good and evil."
Gen 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree produced good food, was attractive in appearance, and was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate it. Then she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate some, too.
Gen 3:7 As a result, they both understood what they had done, and they became aware that they were naked. So they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves.
Gen 3:8 When they heard the voice of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden during the breeze of the day, the man and his wife concealed themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
Gen 3:9 So the LORD God called out to the man, asking him, "Where are you?"
Gen 3:10 "I heard your voice in the garden," the man answered, "and I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid from you."
Gen 3:11 "Who told you that you are naked?" God asked. "Did you eat fruit from the tree that I commanded you not to eat?"
Gen 3:12 The man answered, "The woman whom you provided for me gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate some of it."
Gen 3:13 Then the LORD God asked the woman, "What did you do?" "The Shining One misled me," the woman answered, "so I ate."
Two sons of different temperament;
esau and jacob
One loved of the father - esau
One loved of the mother - Jacob
and GOD still sovereign over who receives the blessing
showing that blessings are not based on fleshly decisions
and showing also that while one child is preferred over the other by his parent, it does not imply that the child is better or perfect
because both, according to the flesh, were not perfect
esau and jacob
One loved of the father - esau
One loved of the mother - Jacob
and GOD still sovereign over who receives the blessing
showing that blessings are not based on fleshly decisions
and showing also that while one child is preferred over the other by his parent, it does not imply that the child is better or perfect
because both, according to the flesh, were not perfect
Jacob did have a perfect heart towards God. It's seen when he was running from Esau and he has the divine encounter with angels and the open portal of heaven. He makes an oath of 10 percent of all his goods to God if God goes with him all his life. Then he has the wrestling with the angel of heaven...doesn't let go unless he is blessed. This is when his name changes to Israel.
When God changes a name in scripture, it reveals something about the person.
His heart was the Lords from the beginning.
When God changes a name in scripture, it reveals something about the person.
His heart was the Lords from the beginning.
So when someone comes to you starving then either they give all their substance like Jacob required of Esau or you let them die, humm interesting position
Gen 25:32-34
32 And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me?
33 And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.
34 Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.
Well shoot, everybody knows that Jacob's claim to Esau's birthright will get toss out on the day of judgment anyways...
Gen 25:32-34
32 And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me?
33 And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.
34 Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.
Well shoot, everybody knows that Jacob's claim to Esau's birthright will get toss out on the day of judgment anyways...