FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT CHRIST IS NOT GOD.
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Yeah, not everything what is not possible in our dimension is impossible in a higher one.
We have examples of even lesser beings having 4 faces etc in a "spiritual realm" in the Bible.
So laws of multi vs single personalities are different there.
But even here on Earth we have some primitive examples. There are some one cell organisms. And there are multi-cells organisms creating one, higher organism.
When we know that God is a higher being then we are, we should not be surprised He will be on some higher level of "composition" or how to say it.
We have examples of even lesser beings having 4 faces etc in a "spiritual realm" in the Bible.
So laws of multi vs single personalities are different there.
But even here on Earth we have some primitive examples. There are some one cell organisms. And there are multi-cells organisms creating one, higher organism.
When we know that God is a higher being then we are, we should not be surprised He will be on some higher level of "composition" or how to say it.
If the Bible teaches that God is one;
And, if the Bible teaches that the Father is God, Jesus Christ is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God, all of them God in every respect, then the conclusion is that together they are one.
This is not mathematics.
No example I can give you in physics, mathematics, or biology can approximate what we are talking about.
No comes the crux of the issue:
Do you want to know the Biblical evidence for all the things mentioned because you are confused about the Trinity but want reassurance that the Trinity represent valid doctrine, OR, are just trying to be argumentative and nothing that is said or evidence brought will change your mind?
And, if the Bible teaches that the Father is God, Jesus Christ is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God, all of them God in every respect, then the conclusion is that together they are one.
This is not mathematics.
No example I can give you in physics, mathematics, or biology can approximate what we are talking about.
No comes the crux of the issue:
Do you want to know the Biblical evidence for all the things mentioned because you are confused about the Trinity but want reassurance that the Trinity represent valid doctrine, OR, are just trying to be argumentative and nothing that is said or evidence brought will change your mind?
Actually, I do not agree that God did not give us some models to comprehend higher dimensions.
For example in mathematics (or lets say geometry) we have one dimensional objects like square and thee dimensional objects like cube.
One cube is composed of 6 squares, but in a higher dimension it is just one object. When seen from the one-dimensional space, it seems like 6 squares.
We are living in a lower dimension than God lives. We can "see" one Jesus, one Father, one Holy Spirit... three persons. But we are given the revelation that they are actually one higher being.
For example in mathematics (or lets say geometry) we have one dimensional objects like square and thee dimensional objects like cube.
One cube is composed of 6 squares, but in a higher dimension it is just one object. When seen from the one-dimensional space, it seems like 6 squares.
We are living in a lower dimension than God lives. We can "see" one Jesus, one Father, one Holy Spirit... three persons. But we are given the revelation that they are actually one higher being.
There is not a scripture for that,but the Bible says there is only one God.
Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father.
The Bible states that there is one God,and only attributes the Father as God,which God said,there is no God beside Him,and no God formed after Him.
They say there is 3 persons in one God,so it would take all 3 persons to make one God,but then call them God individually,God the Father,God the Son,and God the Holy Spirit,saying there is 3 Gods.
Is there 1 God,or 3 Gods.
God has 3 relationships with people designated by titles.
Father-parent and provider.
Son-God's visible relationship with the saints.
Holy Spirit-God's invisble relationship with the saints.
But it is the same God with no distinction of persons.
There is one God,who is a Holy Spirit,and Father is a title for God,and the Son is the man Christ Jesus.
Jesus is that one true God manifest in the flesh,God and man.
Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father.
The Bible states that there is one God,and only attributes the Father as God,which God said,there is no God beside Him,and no God formed after Him.
They say there is 3 persons in one God,so it would take all 3 persons to make one God,but then call them God individually,God the Father,God the Son,and God the Holy Spirit,saying there is 3 Gods.
Is there 1 God,or 3 Gods.
God has 3 relationships with people designated by titles.
Father-parent and provider.
Son-God's visible relationship with the saints.
Holy Spirit-God's invisble relationship with the saints.
But it is the same God with no distinction of persons.
There is one God,who is a Holy Spirit,and Father is a title for God,and the Son is the man Christ Jesus.
Jesus is that one true God manifest in the flesh,God and man.
A single Scripture that encapsulates everything you want to know - no, there is not.
That is why I asked the question that I did in my last post.
The doctrine of the Trinity cannot be built from a single Scripture despite many Scriptures mentioning all three persons in the Godhead together.
So the question I asked before stands - I have no interest in covering a lot of Scripture proofs with someone who will not be persuaded no matter what the evidence.
So what is the answer to the question?
That is why I asked the question that I did in my last post.
The doctrine of the Trinity cannot be built from a single Scripture despite many Scriptures mentioning all three persons in the Godhead together.
So the question I asked before stands - I have no interest in covering a lot of Scripture proofs with someone who will not be persuaded no matter what the evidence.
So what is the answer to the question?