Can we pray Mary?

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I never heard this.
Mary's parents are mentioned in some post Apostolic writings.

Where does it talk about Joanna?

I have every apocryphal book at home.
I can't remember ever reading about this.

Thanks.
About Mary parents we can't over look the two genealogies of both Joseph and Mary in scripture.

I will agree Joanna can be debated as to who Jesus sisters names are, Salome is another, Joanna was mentioned at the tomb along with Jesus other family members and deciples, close friends, after the death of Jesus the folks that stayed around at the tomb naturally would have been these folks. Herod knew a lot about Jesus because of Chuza which was his manager of his estates. Chuza allowed Joanna to be away from the house for long periods of time for she was Jesus sister IMO.

The wedding in Cana was clearly a relative of Jesus for the master of the banquet hall approached the bridegroom and said (you have saved the best for last), why would he go to the bridegroom and say that, why because the bridegroom was married into the family and it was his special evening the honory guy of the wedding reception, the family would have supplied the food and drinks.

Mary wasn't just a mere guest because who gets concerned about wine running out at a wedding that they have only been invited too. a person would simply say wow the reception wasn't very good they ran out of wine, Mary didn't want that to happened she would have wanted her daughter to have a great reception.

So it's fitting indeed about Jesus being the bridegroom symbolically for the bridegroom was the brother in law of Jesus and Jesus was the brother in law of the bridegroom.
 
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1ofthem

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Nowhere in scripture says we should pray to Mary or any other deceased person. We are also not to call any man upon this earth father either…These ideas are not from God. They are from the exact opposite. The Rolling Stones sing a song about him…I’ll post it and maybe you can guess his name.
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That should not be too difficult. Scripture says that Satan appears as an angel of light, so there is no problem for him creating apparitions of Mary.

Back to the question. Who died for your sins and rose again for your justification? And who taught you to pray to the Father, through the Son, and by the Spirit?

The real Mary must be extremely unhappy about all this idolatry, and were she to visit the earth, she would destroy the Vatican along with the apostle Peter.
How would one explain the UFO that was seen by at least 70000 people at that event? Well the term UFO wasn't even coined yet. They described it as a dull silver disk. Explanation please?
 
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How would one explain the UFO that was seen by at least 70000 people at that event? Well the term UFO wasn't even coined yet. They described it as a dull silver disk. Explanation please?

Aurora
(Ball) Lightning
Fata Morgana

lots of options
 

Jackson123

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I am going to repeat my warning.

pray to Mary may bring miracle, but is not Mary that perform miracle. It is demon miracle

in my town, there are 2 kind of shaman. Black magic and white magic.

they think white magic is from the Lord. It is wrong, both are devil. One of my friend (A) was learn both white and black.

some time he use black some time white. After Being Christian he understand that both are devil.

prior his repent,(A) have a friend (B). B have a friend(C), C have a doughter (D)

D have a problem. C often hear D talking to some one and D say she has visitor. C did not see any body.

B is a Christian, but he did not know that A ability is from the devil, he think white magic is from the Lord.

so B ask A to pray for D.

B Trust A because B able to read a letter from A wife from other room.

After pray to the spirit, D Said to C, papa the visitor gone.

is that mean demon again demon?

after Being Christian A Said that he believe that is a Lie. Demon may not appear to D anymore, but still there.

if white magic from the Lord, why one can learn both white and black in the same time.
 
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I am going to repeat my warning.

pray to Mary may bring miracle, but is not Mary that perform miracle. It is demon miracle

in my town, there are 2 kind of shaman. Black magic and white magic.

they think white magic is from the Lord. It is wrong, both are devil. One of my friend (A) was learn both white and black.

some time he use black some time white. After Being Christian he understand that both are devil.

prior his repent,(A) have a friend (B). B have a friend(C), C have a doughter (D)

D have a problem. C often hear D talking to some one and D say she has visitor. C did not see any body.

B is a Christian, but he did not know that A ability is from the devil, he think white magic is from the Lord.

so B ask A to pray for D.

B Trust A because B able to read a letter from A wife from other room.

After pray to the spirit, D Said to C, papa the visitor gone.

is that mean demon again demon?

after Being Christian A Said that he believe that is a Lie. Demon may not appear to D anymore, but still there.

if white magic from the Lord, why one can learn both white and black in the same time.
I agree Pray to Mary may bring demon miracle.
 
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About Mary parents we can't over look the two genealogies of both Joseph and Mary in scripture.

I will agree Joanna can be debated as to who Jesus sisters names are, Salome is another, Joanna was mentioned at the tomb along with Jesus other family members and deciples, close friends, after the death of Jesus the folks that stayed around at the tomb naturally would have been these folks. Herod knew a lot about Jesus because of Chuza which was his manager of his estates. Chuza allowed Joanna to be away from the house for long periods of time for she was Jesus sister IMO.

The wedding in Cana was clearly a relative of Jesus for the master of the banquet hall approached the bridegroom and said (you have saved the best for last), why would he go to the bridegroom and say that, why because the bridegroom was married into the family and it was his special evening the honory guy of the wedding reception, the family would have supplied the food and drinks.

Mary wasn't just a mere guest because who gets concerned about wine running out at a wedding that they have only been invited too. a person would simply say wow the reception wasn't very good they ran out of wine, Mary didn't want that to happened she would have wanted her daughter to have a great reception.

So it's fitting indeed about Jesus being the bridegroom symbolically for the bridegroom was the brother in law of Jesus and Jesus was the brother in law of the bridegroom.
This is possible.
I don't know how it could possibly be confirmed...
 
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u can but theres very little chance that mary will hear u........... if u pray to the Father in Jesus' name u will be heard for sure!!!!!!!
 
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This is possible.
I don't know how it could possibly be confirmed...
God works in mysterious ways, sometimes God will deliver a message straight to people, and at other times God wants people to seek to find the message, some call this a leap of faith it is, yet it is also about trusting God will lead the way that might be through the bible or experiences or other people or surroundings,
 
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God works in mysterious ways, sometimes God will deliver a message straight to people, and at other times God wants people to seek to find the message, some call this a leap of faith it is, yet it is also about trusting God will lead the way that might be through the bible or experiences or other people or surroundings,
Jesus wanted persons to seek the message...
This is why He spoke in parables.

One reason was to make persons understand by using expamples of His time, for example--sheep, shepherds.
Another reason was so that people could understand in their own way by putting some of what they knew into the parable.
And still another reason was because He wanted persons to seek the meaning of the message to become spiritual.
 
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Jesus wanted persons to seek the message...
This is why He spoke in parables.

One reason was to make persons understand by using expamples of His time, for example--sheep, shepherds.
Another reason was so that people could understand in their own way by putting some of what they knew into the parable.
And still another reason was because He wanted persons to seek the meaning of the message to become spiritual.
Indeed if everything is handed to us on a silver plater, then how can a person learn and grow spiritually if they are always told in detail and nothing to ponder on. That would be like taking a math test yet the answers have already been given before hand just copy and paste and a person will pass the math test, all A+
 

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Hello everyone,
I have a question about prayers. Can a Christian pray Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ, or should we address our prayer only to God?
I'm a protestant but... I'm pretty attached to Mary, she's like a mother for Christians and I feel weird since I've stopped praying her. That's why I'm confused.

Thanks for your attention ^-^
Hopefully your sense of right and wrong will overpower your sense of habit. Prayer, praise, bowing physically or spiritually, are all forms of worship, and only God is to be worshipped. Jesus said sharply "Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only!" I love my sisters Mary, Ruth, Anna, and my brothers David, Moses, Joseph, Paul, Peter, etc. And I can't wait to speak to them face to face. But never will I worship any of them!

Mary is given too much credit. Jesus was born from God's own DNA before the earth or Mary were even here. We humans are physically half our biological mother's DNA, and half our biological father's DNA. But Jesus is 100% the Father's DNA. "For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in the Son." (Col 1). Mary only had to do with Jesus physical body on the earth- but so did Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God- that includes Mary. Mary is not Deity (God) and should not be worshipped in any way.
 
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Indeed if everything is handed to us on a silver plater, then how can a person learn and grow spiritually if they are always told in detail and nothing to ponder on. That would be like taking a math test yet the answers have already been given before hand just copy and paste and a person will pass the math test, all A+
Exactly.
And also, Jesus knew that there's a price to be paid for belonging in the Kingdom of God.

In many different ways...

So He wanted to make sure the persons understood this.
If the parable was not so easy to understand, they'd have to pay close attention, and then
ponder on it, like you said, before accepting what He had to say.

Only if a person accepts what Jesus has to say can that person enter into and remain in the Kingdom.
After all, Jesus IS the WORD.
 
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Exactly.
And also, Jesus knew that there's a price to be paid for belonging in the Kingdom of God.

In many different ways...

So He wanted to make sure the persons understood this.
If the parable was not so easy to understand, they'd have to pay close attention, and then
ponder on it, like you said, before accepting what He had to say.

Only if a person accepts what Jesus has to say can that person enter into and remain in the Kingdom.
After all, Jesus IS the WORD.
True indeed, though Jesus is quite understanding and patient and forgiving, if it takes a person a life time to comprehend it that's ok, somethings can be so huge of a leap of faith some may never get it, but as long as they believe in Him, IMO he can deal with these things.
 
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Fran,

you have a 'way' - your transparency is refreshing, in a 'way'...it kind of shows
some of us how much we have grown and learned and discern...:)
 
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Fran,

you have a 'way' - your transparency is refreshing, in a 'way'...it kind of shows
some of us how much we have grown and learned and discern...:)
This is nice to hear.
Know why?

Because sometimes change is sudden when one meets Jesus.
Sometimes it's slow and we hardly notice it.
It's good to understand how different we've become!

Thanks for the encouragement.
We need to encourage each other.
 

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How would one explain the UFO that was seen by at least 70000 people at that event? Well the term UFO wasn't even coined yet. They described it as a dull silver disk. Explanation please?
Whether it is a UFO or an apparition, Christians should understand that Satan is fully capable of dazzling the gullible with counterfeit miracles and inventions. Please note (2 Thessalonians 2:9,10):

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

We are told in this passage that Satan has the power to do miracles (called "signs") and lying wonders (deceitful things that dazzle the world and cause people to wonder at the supernatural), with "all deceivableness" (which means any and every deceitful device). When Moses confronted Pharaoh with his miracles, the Egyptian magicians duplicated them through this miracle-working power of Satan. Many so-called healings today are counterfeit miracles.
 
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Jackson123

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Whether it is a UFO or an apparition, Christians should understand that Satan is fully capable of dazzling the gullible with counterfeit miracles and inventions. Please note (2 Thessalonians 2:9,10):

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

We are told in this passage that Satan has the power to do miracles (called "signs") and lying wonders (deceitful things that dazzle the world and cause people to wonder at the supernatural), with "all deceivableness" (which means any and every deceitful device). When Moses confronted Pharaoh with his miracles, the Egyptian magicians duplicated them through this miracle-working power of Satan. Many so-called healings today are counterfeit miracles.
rev 13:13

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

yep Lucifer capable to make miracle more than we think.

in the end time, in revelation 13, Lucifer Will make great miracle to make people believe that he is Christ.

Now he make miracle to make people believe that he is Mary, or Peter or other saint. The last attemp Will be Christ
 
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Are there actually any Catholics or Orthodox Christians here? I would like to discuss with one regarding icons, saints and asking for Mary to pray for you. This is strange to me coming from a protestant background due to:

1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"

To me this narrows the amount of intercessors to one, and that is Jesus Christ. What say ye?

I would like to discuss in a good spirit, no nasty attitude or nothing, just exchanging thoughts, I know some orthodox christians from Ethiopia who are no doubt God's people, it is an interesting way of worship. But I am just too used to my protestant ways I guess.