Question: "Masturbation - is it a sin according to the Bible?"

[Enow]

Can the act of masturbation escape in between the works of the flesh of uncleanness and lasciviousness which means sexual excessiveness?

Can masturbation be seen as dishonoring our own bodies?

Romans 1:[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

So it can't be just about impure thoughts when the result is how they wind up dishonoring their own bodies. So then sex is in between the husband and wife as one body, and the act of masturbation has to be seen as dishonoring each other's body when treating the other as individually when they are together for that sex.

Jude 1:[SUP]22 [/SUP]And of some have compassion, making a difference:[SUP] 23 [/SUP]And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

I just don't see any exceptions for married couples at all when you read that reference above as something to avoid being in that state. Sex is for married couples. Masturbation can hardly be for any one when it dishonors that body.

 

[beastslayer1970]

How can mankind go on without sex?

I guess there's a reason why this subject surface again and again. We're simply and literally dead without it.

Yet the subject is "dangerous".

I belive sex is between man and woman, but I do also believe that masturbation is not in the league of sexual pervertions.

Jmo....

I said this before on this thread. We have counseled married christian couples, that might have a long term or short term physical limitation that prohibits intercourse, that mutual masturbation is an acceptable alternative to not being intimate with each other at all. Or in one case the man could not receive but he could still be intimate with his wife in other ways and another case that was opposite of this one.

Sadly, we have also seen the alternate, that married Christian couples are taught that only intercourse is the only sanctified act and that is when adultery has came about with an actual person or through porn addictions, or other things.

Training the Church on human sexuality and sex under the way God intended, between 1 man and 1 women and married should be done without any hesitation.

 

[IamWhoIam]

I find it odd that you believe boring walls of text will effect people, while you are posting an image of scantily clad women...

Because you do not know me, I will use what I use to get my point across, your opinion of me, does not matter to me.

 

[tourist]

I find it odd that you believe boring walls of text will effect people, while you are posting an image of scantily clad women...

Some little kid might click on this video and ruin his little mind.

 

[beastslayer1970]

Because you do not know me, I will use what I use to get my point across, your opinion of me, does not matter to me.

Then you have no moral high ground and are just being a hypocrite. IOW and plainly spoken your ends do not justify your means and quite frankly you are simply manifesting what a spiritual child you are.

 

[IamWhoIam]

Then you have no moral high ground and are just being a hypocrite. IOW and plainly spoken your ends do not justify your means and quite frankly you are simply manifesting what a spiritual child you are.

You talk out of malice because you don't like what I say, and I take that as a compliment thank you, I am a spiritual child,

[video=youtube;AGhwz0VZR8U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGhwz0VZR8U[/video]

 

[MultilingualMessenger]

I don’t think children are reading this site, or would even stumble upon it. I don’t think a frank discussion about masturbation would cause children to stumble- unless they feel shame or guilt because these Christian folks are saying it is an evil thing.

I am reading a biography of Adolf Hitler. He read in his youth that St. Anthony flagellated himself in order to suppress the desires of the flesh. Hitler thought it was absurd and that Christianity is only for old women and priests.

This extremism against something that almost everyone experiences as a rite of passage into puberty has probably driven countless people away from God and turned them off Christianity.

I realize Hitler was raised as Catholic, and the Catholic church teaches against masturbation quite strongly. Who knows how many boys were turned away from God because the Church made them feel dirty for having normal biological processes?

Children can stumble upon anything--even things you, for whatever reason, think they wouldn't. Personally, I'm not sure that a frank discussion about masturbation would be certain to cause a kid to stumble either, but nevertheless, there is the possibility. I don't think it's extreme to acknowledge that.

And I don't think that Christians saying that masturbation is a sin is what causes kids to stumble, unless you're willing to blame all stumbling on Christians calling sin sin. We call lust sin too, and that's another thing that people commonly feel from the onset of puberty. That doesn't mean we should stop calling lust a sin because someone might feel some guilt or think it's extreme or absurd. It's called the natural man; the natural man inherently thinks matters of faith are foolish and doesn't understand them. The natural man prefers sin. That's why they're turned off from Christianity--they think it's extreme to go to such lengths to avoid sin, even though Jesus himself said to cut your hand off if it causes you to stumble. Whether one takes that literally or not, it's obvious that Jesus was serious about not letting sin take control and lead to one's demise.

We don't refrain from calling sin what it is because people might think Christianity is extreme, or for old ladies, or might make people in puberty feel uncomfortable. I agree that we shouldn't shame folks for having a flesh--we all have one--but at the same time, we don't encourage feeding it, or excuse walking in it because it's "normal".

But I digress. We don't know what kids will stumble upon, so we should be careful. We can't just assume they won't be here and take that inkling as fact.

I think it is sin, but yes self control is not easy. We live in sin environment. Why tv or movie industry use pretty and sexy woman? I believe because to attract more people to watch.

Basically they know most man attract to pretty or sexy woman, thn follow by lust.

Woman may have more self control.

Christian men and women have the same Holy Spirit.

 

[beastslayer1970]

You talk out of malice because you don't like what I say,

[video=youtube;AGhwz0VZR8U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGhwz0VZR8U[/video]

NO, it is actually the opposite, you are being a spiritual child and acting out, because I talk out of truth about a subject you want to censor because it is unpleasing to you

 

[IamWhoIam]

NO, it is actually the opposite, you are being a spiritual child and acting out, because I talk out of truth about a subject you want to censor because it is unpleasing to you

Maybe but I am, and I know all to well, for my innocence was stolen from me at age 6, make no mistake I have forgiven that but that doesn't mean I won't seek the justice of such acts of thief.

the moment you think it can never happen, well you might want to think awhile about that.

 

[beastslayer1970]

Maybe but I am, and I know all to well, for my innocence was stolen from me at age 6, make no mistake I have forgiven that but that doesn't mean I won't seek the justice of such acts of thief.

the moment you think it can never happen, well you might want to think awhile about that.

Sorry for your experience. I truly am. This thread in no way is stealing anything from children, your seeking justice on a thread on the internet. I am sure you are active in your community agaisnt sex trafficking kids, teenager and young adults, and again child porn, etc. All of which need to be defeated and we thank you for seeking justice by being involved in those efforts.

Your cause is noble, your justice here on this thread is misplaced.

 

[Enow]

Jude 1:[SUP]22 [/SUP]And of some have compassion, making a difference:[SUP] 23 [/SUP]And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Do we see the exception, "...unless you are married"? If we are to hate the garment spotted by the flesh, then the act of masturbation has to be hated as well, as a work of the flesh called uncleanness.

 

[beastslayer1970]

Jude 1:[SUP]22 [/SUP]And of some have compassion, making a difference:[SUP] 23 [/SUP]And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Do we see the exception, "...unless you are married"? If we are to hate the garment spotted by the flesh, then the act of masturbation has to be hated as well, as a work of the flesh called uncleanness.

You are aptly using Eisegesis by using Jude 22 to fit your personal need for being viewed, validated and approved on this chat board as a de-facto pastor/teacher/minister.

You are a full grown 53 year old man who claims to be unmarried and in any real church, even if you were an elder or teacher, you would never be allowed to speak to married couples and especially single women about any kind of sexual issues they are going through.

 

[Tommy379]

This is the ten thousandth thread about wanking it this year.

They all seem to have two themes: people looking for permission to fly solo, or someone wanting stone to death those who do.

I don't think everyone has the same sins.

 

[Enow]

This is the ten thousandth thread about wanking it this year.

They all seem to have two themes: people looking for permission to fly solo, or someone wanting stone to death those who do.

Stone them? Please point a post out about stoning those wishing permission to fly solo in this thread.

I don't think everyone has the same sins.

Sins, iniquities, heresies, and whatever denies Him will wind up having Him deny them to attend the Marriage Supper unless they repent as only He can help them to lay aside every weight & sin in running that race to be received by the Bridegroom.

 

[Tommy379]

Stone them? Please point a post out about stoning those wishing permission to fly solo in this thread.



Sins, iniquities, heresies, and whatever denies Him will wind up having Him deny them to attend the Marriage Supper unless they repent as only He can help them to lay aside every weight & sin in running that race to be received by the Bridegroom.

I've read a many of these masturbatory threads. Everyone who post them are either: demanding biblical proof that masturbation is a sin, i.e., permission to do it; or they are throwing out irrelevant scripture, to condemn anyone who has ever touched or viewed their own genitals.

I'm a Baptist. Sin is what separates me from God. What you do that separates you, may be different.

 

[beastslayer1970]

I'm a Baptist. Sin is what separates me from God. What you do that separates you, may be different.

Best comment I have ever seen posted here since joining.

 

[MultilingualMessenger]

Best comment I have ever seen posted here since joining.

It's only been a week

 

[woman63]

removed Inappropriate

 

[Tommy379]

What if your spouse is not capable of having sex; my husband is impotent; cant get an erection. Would be a sin if I took care of myself, with myself, by myself ( so as to be clear)

Would you feel guilty about it?

 

[CS1]

that is medical issue not a Biblical question nor , is it edifying. Those who are sick need a a physician which means go see the Doctor. maybe a marriage counselor .