But john is not taken into Heaven until Rev. 4.
It does not state that this event of Rev.1:13 is in Heaven. The candlesticks are identified as the seven churches in Asia. Present tense. To change the meaning to "the church" changing Scripture and not taking the Scripture literally as you state you do.
Also to state that the 24 elders resent the body of Christ is just opinion. The Scripture does not identify who they are.
Brother, you seem to see thing I do not see. I take it literally. I read the words and believe what it says.
It does not state that this event of Rev.1:13 is in Heaven. The candlesticks are identified as the seven churches in Asia. Present tense. To change the meaning to "the church" changing Scripture and not taking the Scripture literally as you state you do.
Also to state that the 24 elders resent the body of Christ is just opinion. The Scripture does not identify who they are.
Brother, you seem to see thing I do not see. I take it literally. I read the words and believe what it says.
1. John not in Heaven until rev. 4
2. Candelsticks only represent the present churches of the day in asia. They do not represent the rest of CHurches through today. Changing the meaning of Churches.
3. the 24 Elders do not represent the Churches(Body of Christ). The Scripture does not identify them.
Are these the only problems you have with what I had said in Post #155?????? Want to discuss them or had you not take a chance that you beliefs of a post rapture could change.??????? Your Choice?